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Licurg: It's gonna suck.
You lost your faith in movies when?
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Breja: I'm really tired of the "teaser for a trailer" thing. As for what we've seen, both in this teaser and in the photos that were leaked (or "leaked") recently the CGI looks pretty bad so far, but there is still time, it'll probably improve. Or not. The Hobbit seemed quite proud of it's shitty CGI.

Really, my biggest hope for this movie is that Blizzard will re-release the first two Warcraft games to coincide with it's premiere.
Would you be calling the CGI shitty looking if the movie was completely animated without live action actors?
Post edited November 04, 2015 by Elmofongo
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Elmofongo: Would you be calling the CGI shitty looking if the movie was completely animated without live action actors?
I'm not sure, I'd have to see it first :D

Seriously, live actors often make bad CGI more obvious, that's true, but bad CGI still looks bad on it's own too. Here are somo photos including some with no humans, only the CGI orcs, and they look... well, not very good. Not exactly Gollum level stuff shall we say.

I'm still a little amazed by this, but five years later and still it's hard to find (in animated and live action movies both) CGI near as good as Guardians of Ga'hool had. The movie over all was only ok, but it looked, and still does, quite amazing.
Post edited November 04, 2015 by Breja
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Breja: Really, my biggest hope for this movie is that Blizzard will re-release the first two Warcraft games to coincide with it's premiere.
I truly believe those games wil come eventually, since, apparently, a team is working to release old Blizzard games. We got Blackthorne, which comeback from nowhere, and a couple more. I hope Diablo 1 will return too!
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Elmofongo: Would you be calling the CGI shitty looking if the movie was completely animated without live action actors?
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Breja: I'm not sure, I'd have to see it first :D

Seriously, live actors often make bad CGI more obvious, that's true, but bad CGI still looks bad on it's own too. Here are somo photos including some with no humans, only the CGI orcs, and they look... well, not very good. Not exactly Gollum level stuff shall we say.

I'm still a little amazed by this, but five years later and still it's hard to find (in animated and live action movies both) CGI near as good as Guardians of Ga'hool had. The movie over all was only ok, but it looked, and still does, quite amazing.
Well for comparison's sack do you think the CGI in the Warlords of Draenor trailer looks bad?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLzhlsEFcVQ
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Breja: I'm not sure, I'd have to see it first :D

Seriously, live actors often make bad CGI more obvious, that's true, but bad CGI still looks bad on it's own too. Here are somo photos including some with no humans, only the CGI orcs, and they look... well, not very good. Not exactly Gollum level stuff shall we say.

I'm still a little amazed by this, but five years later and still it's hard to find (in animated and live action movies both) CGI near as good as Guardians of Ga'hool had. The movie over all was only ok, but it looked, and still does, quite amazing.
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Elmofongo: Well for comparison's sack do you think the CGI in the Warlords of Draenor trailer looks bad?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLzhlsEFcVQ
Not "bad" , but not nearly as good as the Guardians. It looks good for what it is, a video game trailer, and as such it's good. But it's not exactly something that I would consider good if we were talking about a feature movie.
Post edited November 04, 2015 by Breja
Hell yeah, I always liked WoW cinematics! =D
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Elmofongo: Well for comparison's sack do you think the CGI in the Warlords of Draenor trailer looks bad?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLzhlsEFcVQ
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Breja: Not "bad" , but not nearly as good as the Guardians. It looks good for what it is, a video game trailer, and as such it's good. But it's not exactly something that I would consider good if we were talking about a feature movie.
What about Beowulf 2007 and A Christmas Carol 2009?
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Elmofongo: What about Beowulf 2007 and A Christmas Carol 2009?
Beowulf looked pretty good back in 2007, but it's age is increasingly showing. Still, I really like it on the whole as a movie. I didn't see that Christmas Carol. I think by this point I've really seen enough versions of that, I have my favourites (the Patrick Stewart version, and the Muppets one), and if I ever feel like going through that story yet again, I;ll stick with those.
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Elmofongo: What about Beowulf 2007 and A Christmas Carol 2009?
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Breja: Beowulf looked pretty good back in 2007, but it's age is increasingly showing. Still, I really like it on the whole as a movie. I didn't see that Christmas Carol. I think by this point I've really seen enough versions of that, I have my favourites (the Patrick Stewart version, and the Muppets one), and if I ever feel like going through that story yet again, I;ll stick with those.
Don't forget "Scrooged" with Bill Murray!
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Licurg: It's gonna suck.
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Elmofongo: You lost your faith in movies when?
Somewhere between the D&D movie and Star Wars: Attack of the Clones . Animes are better - watch the Ninja Scroll movie if you haven't already .
I don't... see the point...
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Licurg: It's gonna suck.
Maybe. Movies about videogames don't exactly have a great track record. I'm going down the Wikipedia list to see if any of them actually rise beyond the status of guilty pleasure and finding very little.
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Licurg: It's gonna suck.
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markrichardb: Maybe. Movies about videogames don't exactly have a great track record. I'm going down the Wikipedia list to see if any of them actually rise beyond the status of guilty pleasure and finding very little.
I'd say FF: The Spirits Within is the best of the lot.
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Elmofongo: What about Beowulf 2007 and A Christmas Carol 2009?
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Breja: Beowulf looked pretty good back in 2007, but it's age is increasingly showing. Still, I really like it on the whole as a movie. I didn't see that Christmas Carol. I think by this point I've really seen enough versions of that, I have my favourites (the Patrick Stewart version, and the Muppets one), and if I ever feel like going through that story yet again, I;ll stick with those.
Well the 2009 CGI version with Jim Carrey was my proper ntroduction to A Christmas Carol.

And there was some brilliant ideas thanks to the use of animation. I mean for the the Ghost of Christmas Future is litirally a shadow:

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/disney/images/1/1e/Carol-disneyscreencaps_com-7246.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110827024301

And I thought Jim Carrey was surprisingly good in the movie to the point where I forget it was JIm Carrey and just see Scrooge.

When it comes to live action versions however I prefer the Alister Sim version from the 1950s.
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markrichardb: Maybe. Movies about videogames don't exactly have a great track record. I'm going down the Wikipedia list to see if any of them actually rise beyond the status of guilty pleasure and finding very little.
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TARFU: I'd say FF: The Spirits Within is the best of the lot.
That movie was 10 times better than fuckin Advent Children.

I mean that movie was so bad that it poisoned the look and feel of the original game it was based on.
Post edited November 04, 2015 by Elmofongo
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TARFU: I'd say FF: The Spirits Within is the best of the lot.
I'll have to agree. But it was Square Enix who made the game based loosely on their own series, and as each game has it's own plot/system/story it wasn't hard to come up with something they wanted to show off that sorta was between FF7 and FF13 (or the tech involved).

But i think maybe Spirits Within was more so they could show off what CGI could do, as well as test their own limits; Along with maybe transitioning to a different software/rendering package for prerendered cutscenes...