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I agree with most things, but the most painful one is the lack of communication.

Blues used to react to these kinds of topics. Heck, for big things they'd even make an announcement. Not to mention that we were supposed to get Ciris as the dedicated community manager, but I'm pretty sure she's not doing that anymore.

So yeah, can we get some of that transparency back, please?
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RWarehall: I see 100's of games listed in threads claiming GoG rejected them and without proof at all.
"business implies money changing hands, though. would love to be listed on GoG, but they passed on <span class="bold">Zigfrak</span> after evaluating a beta :-("

https://twitter.com/zigfrak/status/342490853492789249

Vote: http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/zigfrak
Post edited January 31, 2016 by Barry_Woodward
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RWarehall: I see 100's of games listed in threads claiming GoG rejected them and without proof at all.
From the developer of Pony Island:

"I don't have an account on GOG so maybe you can quote me on this:

I work with a publisher for the non-Steam stores and I expected before release that they would be able to get me on GOG. Recently they informed me that GOG rejected my submission (I do not know on what grounds) and that they were going to try re-submitting. I trust the publisher. They have gotten the game on almost every other store so I don't think the issue is with their submission. I am going to remove the GOG button from the website for now to avoid further confusion.

If I were to release on GOG, it would be with a DRM-free version only. This is mostly because the work required to integrate the Galaxy API doesn't seem worth it when GOG users don't want it."

Vote: http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/pony_island
Post edited January 31, 2016 by Barry_Woodward
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RWarehall: I see 100's of games listed in threads claiming GoG rejected them and without proof at all.
Starward Rogue from Arcen Games:

"GOG isn't going to be carrying this on launch, because they don't feel like it's a fit for their audience and I guess they are trying to really be very picky these days on what games they choose so each one gets extra promotion. That said, never fear: there are some MAJOR promotional things we have going on with another huge partner. I love GOG, but this one has been very frustrating to say the least. There is absolutely no barrier to this going through from our side; my hope is that after they see what a huge success this hopefully is on Steam and Humble (and others) that they'll jump on board as well. I'm sure there's more to this story, but if there is your guess is as good as mine."

https://www.arcengames.com/forums/index.php/topic,18352.msg197061.html#msg197061

Vote: http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/starward_rogue
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Aturuxo: I opened this thread expecting yet another vitriolic rant and found proper, well exposed, constructive criticism. Well done!
This, very much.

Albeit, I am not sure how much I agree with the complaint of refusing games, simply because I don't know what the negotiations and actual pain points have been in each case. We sometimes only hear the publisher's version/guess of why the game was refused, no way of telling if there was something else (too).

Plus I understand the reasons why GOG probably can't just open the floodgates either and let any game in (because GOG is probably quite involved with the releasing of the games, like how the offline installers and offline patches are constructed, named, numbered etc... I am unsure if most developers are interested in doing that work by GOG's rules, so GOG probably has to do it themselves).
Post edited January 31, 2016 by timppu
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RWarehall: I see 100's of games listed in threads claiming GoG rejected them and without proof at all.
Grynsoft: "Wings of Vi is already DRM free on steam. Tried contacting gog a long time ago but never got anything set up."

https://twitter.com/Grynsoft/status/625263096140066816

Vote: http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/wings_of_vi
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Barry, what if you post all that in one single post? Because spamming like that makes me want to disagree with you even if i don't care what ends up on gog or not.
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RWarehall: I see 100's of games listed in threads claiming GoG rejected them and without proof at all.
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Barry_Woodward: Grynsoft: "Wings of Vi is already DRM free on steam. Tried contacting gog a long time ago but never got anything set up."

https://twitter.com/Grynsoft/status/625263096140066816

Vote: http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/wings_of_vi
Barry, I think you made your point and you can stop posting these "evidences" since this is starting to seriously derail this thread. Eitherway thanks for mentioning Starward Rouge from Arcen games - the latest game declined by gog. Any help for getting it here is appreciated especially in the bad financial situation Arcen currently is.
Post edited January 31, 2016 by Matruchus
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Cyraxpt: Barry, what if you post all that in one single post? Because spamming like that makes me want to disagree with you even if i don't care what ends up on gog or not.
Could be worse. He could be making another list. :P
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Cyraxpt: Barry, what if you post all that in one single post?
RWarehall wanted proof, and I gave it to him. I was collating the evidence in this thread as I went, plus there's a limit to how many characters you can fit in a single post. ;)

I think I've made my point for the time being.
Post edited January 31, 2016 by Barry_Woodward
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Barry_Woodward: If I were to release on GOG, it would be with a DRM-free version only. This is mostly because the work required to integrate the Galaxy API doesn't seem worth it when GOG users don't want it."
This is one good example. Isn't that then a valid reason for GOG to reject a game? If GOG released it without multiplayer, wouldn't we then have people complaining that GOG should have forced the publisher to implement multiplayer, with Steam crossplay too, or not to release it at all on GOG?

I personally would prefer a release even if it means only the single-player part, but maybe some disagree. You can never please everybody, always someone will complain loudly.
Post edited January 31, 2016 by timppu
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timppu: This is one good example. Isn't that then a valid reason for GOG to reject a game? If GOG released it without multiplayer, wouldn't we then have people complaining that GOG should have forced the publisher to implement multiplayer, with Steam crossplay too, or not to release it at all on GOG?

I personally would prefer a release even if it means only the single-player part, but maybe some disagree.
We already have a release without Steam crossplay -> Ashes of Singularity. Which means there is no multiplayer allthough it sold as a multiplayer game.
Post edited January 31, 2016 by Matruchus
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timppu: This is one good example. Isn't that then a valid reason for GOG to reject a game? If GOG released it without multiplayer, wouldn't we then have people complaining that GOG should have forced the publisher to implement multiplayer, <span class="bold">with Steam crossplay too</span>, or not to release it at all on GOG?

I personally would prefer a release even if it means only the single-player part, but maybe some disagree.
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Matruchus: We already have a release without Steam crossplay -> Ashes of Singularity.
Yep, check the link in my message (also quoted above) to that exact thread.

So which way is it? Should GOG reject games where the publisher doesn't want to offer multiplayer for GOG users, or offers multiplayer but not with Steam crossplay? Or should GOG release them without any multiplayer? You can't please everybody.
Post edited January 31, 2016 by timppu
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Matruchus: We already have a release without Steam crossplay -> Ashes of Singularity.
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timppu: Yep, check the link in my message (also quoted above) to that exact thread.

So which way is it? Should GOG reject games where the publisher doesn't want to offer multiplayer for GOG users, or offers multiplayer but not with Steam crossplay? Or should GOG release them without Galaxy multiplayer? You can't please everybody.
Gog should not reject such games but it shouldn't sell them as multiplayer games if there is no crossplay. There won't be enough players on gog clients to support a multiplayer game for a long time (especially for an early access game).
Post edited January 31, 2016 by Matruchus
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Barry_Woodward: I was making a point to RWarehall, plus there's a limit to how many characters you can fit in a single post. ;)
I know there's a limit but i'm sure that it fits at least 2 of the posts that you made (even more), it's annoying trying to read the thread when you're constantly posting the same thing over and over again, i'm sure that you're point was made now let there be space for the other 3 problems that the op mention.