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It's a wonderful movie.
Much better than the original trilogy, which I loved as a kid but today I find it barely watchable.
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hedwards: I'll try my best to watch it with an open mind and see if it's better than advertised. But, it deeply disturbs me how far feminism has been going in it's war against men.
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Breja: If "the war against men" results in movies like Fury Road, then I'm all for it :D

Seriously, I'm so tired of both "sides" here, seeing everything as propaganda. It's a great movie. That's it. Just enjoy the movie, or go back to the other bloody peasants, tell them how you're being repressed.

I was also concerned about Furiosa being the main charachter rather than Max before I saw the movie, though not for any "oh no, teh womenz !1!" reasons, just because it's a Mad Max movie. And it is. It just happens to have TWO main characters, and the movie would not work without either. There is nothing wrong with that, unless you're confusing Mad Max with Duke Nukem.
It might be a good film, but from what I've read it's also propaganda with unnecessary feminist tinkering. I'll likely watch it just to see, but there's no reason why it can't be entertaining and appalling on other levels.

Right and somebody in Poland is really in a position to talk about the position that men have in society.
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hedwards: It might be a good film, but from what I've read it's also propaganda with unnecessary feminist tinkering. I'll likely watch it just to see, but there's no reason why it can't be entertaining and appalling on other levels.
Yeah, just like Lord of the Rings was anti-feminist propaganda. At least there is true equality in stupidity here. Both sexes have idiots who see everything as a threat and enemy propaganda.

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hedwards: Right and somebody in Poland is really in a position to talk about the position that men have in society.
Ummm... what?
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Breja: If "the war against men" results in movies like Fury Road, then I'm all for it :D

Seriously, I'm so tired of both "sides" here, seeing everything as propaganda. It's a great movie. That's it. Just enjoy the movie, or go back to the other bloody peasants, tell them how you're being repressed.

I was also concerned about Furiosa being the main charachter rather than Max before I saw the movie, though not for any "oh no, teh womenz !1!" reasons, just because it's a Mad Max movie. And it is. It just happens to have TWO main characters, and the movie would not work without either. There is nothing wrong with that, unless you're confusing Mad Max with Duke Nukem.
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hedwards: It might be a good film, but from what I've read it's also propaganda with unnecessary feminist tinkering. I'll likely watch it just to see, but there's no reason why it can't be entertaining and appalling on other levels.

Right and somebody in Poland is really in a position to talk about the position that men have in society.
Actually, from what I read, it isn't actually a very feminist movie... And when the average movie is sexist, it's good to have something that tends to depict women in a better way. And feminism isn't a war against men, it's about equality and it actually benefits men because men also suffer from the patriarchy and inequality in the world. Also, third-wave feminism is about intersectionality, fighting for rights to all oppressed beings.
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hedwards: It might be a good film, but from what I've read it's also propaganda with unnecessary feminist tinkering. I'll likely watch it just to see, but there's no reason why it can't be entertaining and appalling on other levels.
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Breja: Yeah, just like Lord of the Rings was anti-feminist propaganda. At least there is true equality in stupidity here. Both sexes have idiots who see everything as a threat and enemy propaganda.
It's not anti-feminist to point out that a movie about Mad Max should actually be about him. And it's completely legitimate to point out that feminists are probably not even remotely qualified to coach people about how to be slaves.

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hedwards: Right and somebody in Poland is really in a position to talk about the position that men have in society.
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Breja: Ummm... what?
You're ignorance of what things are like in the US is what I'm getting at. I don't know what things are like in Poland and so I'm not going to comment on what they're like there or the validity of grievances. The fact that you're calling me a retard here pretty much cements my position that you should shut up about it until you actually know what you're talking about.

Feminists regularly push their noses in where they don't belong and that part for Furiosa is a pretty good example. Now it might well be a compelling, enjoyable movie, but giving so much of the role to somebody other than Max is at best dishonest with regards to marketing. They could have done like they did with the Scorpion King and marketed it as something other than a Max movie.
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hedwards: It might be a good film, but from what I've read it's also propaganda with unnecessary feminist tinkering. I'll likely watch it just to see, but there's no reason why it can't be entertaining and appalling on other levels.

Right and somebody in Poland is really in a position to talk about the position that men have in society.
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xaemar: Actually, from what I read, it isn't actually a very feminist movie... And when the average movie is sexist, it's good to have something that tends to depict women in a better way. And feminism isn't a war against men, it's about equality and it actually benefits men because men also suffer from the patriarchy and inequality in the world. Also, third-wave feminism is about intersectionality, fighting for rights to all oppressed beings.
Women are already depicted better than men are in films. So, I'm not really sure we need this in a movie of this sorts. If they want to further equality, that's their own prerogative. But, perhaps choosing a film that more accurately reflects present day reality would make more sense.

As far as feminism goes, when they start paying more attention to the negative consequences on men and start pushing for us to get some benefit rather than just having to give things up, then men will probably stop feeling so angry and defensive about it. But, when half of the abusers are female and half of the abusees are male it's really hard to grant much credit to feminists that are continually harping on how horrible men are.
Post edited July 10, 2015 by hedwards
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hedwards: You're ignorance of what things are like in the US is what I'm getting at.
You never mentioned US before. You just made some idiotic statement on how I'm in no position to speak about men in society, because I'm from Poland. Which made zero sense, as if we didn't have men here, or society, or fuck, I have no idea what it could really mean it was so ass-backwards.

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hedwards: The fact that you're calling me a retard here pretty much cements my position that you should shut up about it until you actually know what you're talking about.

Feminists regularly push their noses in where they don't belong and that part for Furiosa is a pretty good example.
How about you watch the movie first, to "actually know what you are talking about"? You have not seen it, so you're in no position to know what Furiosa is a good example of.

It's still a Mad Max movie. He's still a main character. There also happens to be a second main character, because that's what this story demands. He does not get sidelined because of it. See the movie, before your panicked male ego gets you to declare the movie "propaganda". My male ego somehow survived the ordeal :)

I had a similar doubt about Furiosa after the trailer but 1) I never made it about her being a woman and 2) I reserved judgement untill after I saw the movie.

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hedwards: giving so much of the role to somebody other than Max is at best dishonest with regards to marketing.
Yeah, the fact that she is so prominent in the trailers is a good proof of that. Truly, they have worked a masterfull deception!
Post edited July 10, 2015 by Breja
The only "feminist" thingy in the movie was because the female main character was due to Eve Mensler

and even the director's wife said he could have asked any woman on how they feel as a person to write a similar character!

Why do feminist feel compaled to have a "strong female characters" in any media in which they only get covered in dirt and dog shit? -_-

You are a strong character by having charisma, motivations and more during an experience in ANY media, how Furiosa is called to be that type of character would only mean something literal, cuz if anything she is Ellie or Laura Croft, trying to survive all sorts of things only to still be covered in dirt, like a generic tough man, but I guess it's equality when both sexes get the same stereotype, I guess
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hedwards: You're ignorance of what things...
Given you haven't seen the movie and are already attacking it, you're the only ignorant one here.

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hedwards: And it's completely legitimate to point out that feminists are probably not even remotely qualified to coach people about how to be slaves.
They're not being taught how to be slaves you fucking twit. Eve Ensler is teaching the actors what it means to be raped and abused which she is more than qualified to do - but far be it from you to take the time to inform yourself or speak with any credibility.

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hedwards: Feminists regularly push their noses...Women are already depicted better than men are in films...
You're the only one pushing your nose into something you have no standing to talk about - whatsoever. However - we get it - you're a biased prick.

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hedwards: ...perhaps choosing a film that more accurately reflects present day reality would make more sense.
Yes, damn fiction for all those metaphors. Damn Star Trek, Avatar, the Matrix and just about every other fantasy fiction for it's comments on reality. Why can't they just be about reality without all the fantasy. Gattaca should have just been a story about rich kids getting ahead in life.

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hedwards: As far as feminism goes, when they start paying more attention to the negative consequences on men and start pushing for us to get some benefit rather than just having to give things up...
You poor baby, someone needs a glass of warm milk, you're so justified in getting upset about a movie you haven't seen, ideas you don't understand and will never bother yourself to read.

Seriously just stay in whatever echo chamber made you this fucking stupid (you obviously have a fear of your bias being challenged) and don't see it, you wouldn't understand the subtext anyways.
Post edited July 10, 2015 by xSinghx
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MorningStar33: It's a wonderful movie.
Much better than the original trilogy, which I loved as a kid but today I find it barely watchable.
How is it any better ? It has no plot lol. They just run around the whole damn movie.
And not in a tension building way like in Duel or other movies of the same kind...no.


The movie was alright but come on, the first 2 of the original trilogy are cult classics. The third was a typical blockbuster and i'd put it on the same level as waterworld (aka a big budget failure).
I'll give you that the first movie didn't age so well.

What's confusing about fury road is that you're left wanting it to be more. It had the potential. Screenplay is great, very good special effects and filming but it fell short.
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hedwards: I'll try my best to watch it with an open mind and see if it's better than advertised. But, it deeply disturbs me how far feminism has been going in it's war against men.
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Breja: If "the war against men" results in movies like Fury Road, then I'm all for it :D

Seriously, I'm so tired of both "sides" here, seeing everything as propaganda. It's a great movie. That's it. Just enjoy the movie, or go back to the other bloody peasants, tell them how you're being repressed.

I was also concerned about Furiosa being the main charachter rather than Max before I saw the movie, though not for any "oh no, teh womenz !1!" reasons, just because it's a Mad Max movie. And it is. It just happens to have TWO main characters, and the movie would not work without either. There is nothing wrong with that, unless you're confusing Mad Max with Duke Nukem.
i watched the original eons ago but to me mad max 2 and 3 was about the situation and the other characters, Max just happened to be there and got things moving. like was the case in this one.

The interceptor was the same?, i mean same kind of car. i didn´t check
Post edited July 11, 2015 by martigasin
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Brasas: I liked it, it's not great and I very much doubt it will become a classic or even a cult classic though.
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Breja: Pearls before swine...
:) You have to admit plot is waferthin, characterization is minimal and the actor performances are just ok. Sure, it's an action flick, and a very technically well executed one, but to think of an example with a different sort of action, and a similarly road movie thematic, I'd suggest Drive is a much better movie overall for example.
It's the best AAA movie I've seen in a long while, over the top as heck but this is one of those movies where it actually works or is needed even. The movie isn't perfect, firstly it's basically the last act out of MM2 or MM3 drawn out to an entire movie, but then MM has always been about carchases through the wastelands. Secondly and I agree with some of the critiques that women are depicted as morally superior angellike beings, personally it didn't really bother me as this is more some sort of idealism the entire human society has appropriated to itself and you don't have to look far to see the truth. And thirdly I miss Mel Gibson, Tom Hardy didn't do a bad job but he was outplayed by basically everyone on screen but at least his character didn't distract from what was going on in the movie which can be a problem with the bigger ego's.

And I thought the drumvehicle with the guitarist was epic, best vehicle in the movie. :^P
This tweet needs no words. :)

https://twitter.com/GntmHjk/status/622717670039793664
Saw this about 2 weeks ago.

Overall it was a good film BUT... It wasnt Mad Max for me, if they had just called it Fury Road and changed the name away from Max, I would have been happy.
But it was missing something for me for it to be a proper Mad Max film
low rated
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tort1234: It's not cool to shoehorn feminist bs into movies that make it look like the movie will be about male main character.

You want to see what Furiosa(charlize theron) would do in real life apocalypse.

Watch the movie "The Road" and see what happens to her character.

http://www.returnofkings.com/63931/mad-max-is-only-the-latest-offense-in-hollywoods-long-tradition-of-social-engineering
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hedwards: I haven't seen the film yet, but this is something that concerns me a great deal. They had feminists coming in to coach the female characters about how to be sex slaves and Furiosa got far more attention than Max did.

This is a movie about Mad Max, so he should really be the main character.

I'll try my best to watch it with an open mind and see if it's better than advertised. But, it deeply disturbs me how far feminism has been going in it's war against men.
What's more worse is that the brain dead population especially men liked the movie.

They like seeing a masculine woman beat up guys left and right. Bunch of wimps.