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From a criminal's stand point, assaulting people in the bathroom isn't an ideal plan. One probably crowded escape route, very likely that someone interferes, and, if you go to a place where there are more opportunities to find your target, there are also a lot of other people who might remember you for all sorts of reasons.

Most assaults are going to happen at home, within a family circle. That's a statistic that sticks out, bar none.
Let's sacrifice the OP in the name of this being a gaming forum. :P
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nightcraw1er.488: I am hoping for that nice non specified size, gender neutral, unconfirmed origin meteor which will wipe out the whole fecking population.
Yup, kind of a universal "reset", and then hopefully, some other species with more intelligence will rise to be the dominant one, or none will, and the planet can just stroll along it's peaceful way
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Dalthnock: [snippity doo dah]
I'm confused, are you making an argument against men and children sharing the same bathrooms, or just adults and children in general?
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First I thought it was about the Rotherham case in Islamic...uh United Kingdom, where 1400 underage girls were sacrificed to "Asian" (read: Pakistani) pedophiles, because to do otherwise would be "racism".

And now we have this case where special snowflakes have to be the center of the Universe instead of being adult, adapt and take some consideration to children. Children are after all a much larger group than the special snowflakes.
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Dalthnock: Guys, this is NOT about trans people.

Please, let's not go there. I too believe that trans people should have every right, including feeling comfortable in a public toilet, which I never have.

But not at the expense of children! What about THEIR rights?

dtgreene, so the rights of the man supersede the rights of every child there? Is that what you're saying? WHY did you turn this thread into a trans issue? What is your agenda?

How do you justify your tolerance by saying that the man has every right to be in a toilet that he feels comfortable while taking away the rights of all the children that were NOT comfortable?

Are middle-aged feelings more important than children's feelings?
Well, to be honest, generally speaking, if the child is young enough, most parents and guardians will accompany them into a bathroom (publicly speaking), due to miscreants everywhere....nothing to do with gender
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a4plz: There's an important hypothetical question worth asking in this situation: would it be a transgender issue if this man had decided to choke a small boy in a male bathroom instead?
I fail to see what the reported incident has to do with anything even mildly related to transgender issues.

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Dalthnock: Guys, this is NOT about trans people.

Please, let's not go there. I too believe that trans people should have every right, including feeling comfortable in a public toilet, which I never have.

But not at the expense of children! What about THEIR rights?
Right, let's not go there... but!

Seriously, what were you expecting?
Post edited May 21, 2016 by Lemon_Curry
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tinyE: This should be fun. XD
I'm joining you with my pop-corns to watch the show ;)
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Lemon_Curry: I'll just leave this here:
'The Daily Show - The Trans Panic Epidemic'.
Please do read both on my original post & the one afterwards that I have absolutely no issues with trans people, ahve no reason to have any issues & have lots of reasons NOT to have any issues. I knew this would be turned into a transphobia thread, even though I stated very clearly this wasn't about trans people at all.

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tinyE: There is nothing hypothetical about it, it happens. Transphobic people tend to overlook things like that.
While that may be true, why do so called tolerant people tend to overlook that every time someone tries to discuss this in a way that doesn't involve trans people at all, someone else forced the issue back to trans gender?

That is not what worries me at all. Please do notice where the focus of my worry is.

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Titanium: From a criminal's stand point, assaulting people in the bathroom isn't an ideal plan. One probably crowded escape route, very likely that someone interferes, and, if you go to a place where there are more opportunities to find your target, there are also a lot of other people who might remember you for all sorts of reasons.

Most assaults are going to happen at home, within a family circle. That's a statistic that sticks out, bar none.
Yeah... where predators have easy access to victims, with no one around who is capable of defending the victim.
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Lemon_Curry: I fail to see what the reported incident has to do with anything even mildly related to transgender issues.
My bad, I originally started that post off with something like "I presume you're implying this is a trans issue..." and then forgot to add it in again later.
All I get out of this is "WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!".


On a more serious note, wouldn't it make sense for all larger public buildings to have separate bathrooms specifically for children? You know, so no adult strangers get to mess around with them, regardless of their physical or not-so-physical gender.
Post edited May 21, 2016 by CharlesGrey
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Zoltan999: Well, to be honest, generally speaking, if the child is young enough, most parents and guardians will accompany them into a bathroom (publicly speaking), due to miscreants everywhere....nothing to do with gender
You do realise there's a cutoff point, right? Right about at the age 7? Are you saying a girl between 7-15 is capable of defending herself from a man who is bound to be taller, heavier & stronger than a grown woman?

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Lemon_Curry: I fail to see what the reported incident has to do with anything even mildly related to transgender issues.
Nothing. Nothing at all. I do not wish to discuss trans rights or phobia, even if I am quite supportive of their rights & have absolutely nothing against them whatsoever.

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Lemon_Curry: Right, let's not go there... but!

Seriously, what were you expecting?
Don't get me wrong, I was quite aware this would happen. Everyone's so blinded by Social Justice that they fail to see the BIGGER problems.

Again I ask, not to you, but to those who always steer this in the wrong direction: Are the rights of ONE middle-aged man more important than the rights of SEVERAL YOUNG CHILDREN?
Never mind, I was too late... :)
Post edited May 21, 2016 by Lemon_Curry
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As a childless male I've got it easy and the most i will expect is a very horrified FtM person questioning wheter it was all worth it, when confronted with the tipical male public bathroom. (The only male privilige I check on a regular basis is the feat to take a piss whie standing, hallelujah for that.)

I didn't even know bathroom laws existed, I always thought people would use the right bathrooms out of common decency and the extreme cases of creep would get a general public indecency fine. I mean it's not like theres a genital inspector anywhere making a thorough check before you're let in, if you "pass" as a trans person nobody will question if you're in the right bathroom.

People who have that problem are persons who thought transitioning would somehow turn their overweight, midlle-aged, flabby, balding, and a general "child molester look" bodies into beautiful girls. Why? because other people encouraged them anyways, feeding them bullshit just to feel "progressive". And now we have to accomodate these poor modern frankensteins somehow.
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Zoltan999: My local watering hole has solved the problem....
I still have questions...
Post edited May 21, 2016 by WBGhiro
Great, let me fetch my sacrificial dagger.