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a4plz: Why would children's bathrooms suddenly be necessary in the year 2016? It's always been their parents' responsibility to determine when they're mature enough to use a public bathroom without their supervision. I don't see what the new problem is.
Because that's the year sexual predators are given free rein, under disguise of another agenda.

Honestly, if I was trans, I would be VERY angry to be used as a pawn in this game.

As it is, I'm just scared shitless this will go through & spread out.
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Reality 1 ) Law forces people to use Birth Gender related Bath room. Breaking the law givs you 6 months jail time.
Reality 2) People can use bathroom according to identified gender. Standard Indecency laws apply.

scenario ) man walks into ladies and assaults a young girl.


I reality 1, the transphobic law wouldn't stop him any more than the decency laws of reality 2.
In reality 2, the assaulting man couldn't claim transgender as a defense for the assault. And would have to prove they were transgender to remove the minor decency charges, which for a non-transgender person would be difficult and still have now effect on the assault charge.

This whole scenario with toilet laws is daft beyond belief and the fact the OP honestly thinks its protecting children in anyway is ridiculous.
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htown1980: And its fine for an adult female to flash her junk to a female child but not for an adult female to flash her junk to a male child?
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a4plz: What rights do I have if little boys and girls start flashing me? :(
I think Dalthnock thinks that's ok as well?
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wpegg: Please tell me more about these paedophiles. Where do they get their agendas? Is there some management hierarchy among them to help them identify which of the paedophiles get to put their agendas into play? Perhaps they have a "Head Paedophile", or a council of several "Senior Paedophiles". Do they have business cards? Weekly meetings? How do they go about influencing U.S law?

There's so much unanswered about these people.
Pretty sure all those answers can be found in Vatican City.
I wonder if the OP knows that in the States in the 50's and 60's all of his arguments, and a few other inane ones, were used to keep black people from using the same bathrooms as white people.
While I appreciate that social justice groups have been known to downplay some pretty sinister shit, I doubt that anybody is going to just casually get away with molesting children while we're living in a society that believes paedophiles should be thrown into volcanoes just for existing. Come on, this bathroom nonsense isn't going to change anything.
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itchy01ca01: Dude if you're worried about people being assaulted in washrooms...

THERE ARE LAWS FOR THAT.

Thinking that suddenly assaults are going to go up...

point to you being a transphobe. It's quite simple.
Yeah, it's that simple. Why are YOU diverting this issue into transphobia, when that is certainly not the case?

There's already one assault, at least, not widely reported by the media. Who knows if there are others? And no, the attacker was NOT a trans person. But with these laws, he was able to enter the toilet after the little girl with no problem.

But why am I wasting my time on you? You know that.

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htown1980: I think Dalthnock thinks that's ok as well?
You seem to be attacking me personally. Why? Are you hoping to gain something from these laws?

When did I say it's ok for any adult to flash their junk to children? Why are you saying I did? What is YOUR agenda here?
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tinyE: I wonder if the OP knows that in the States in the 50's and 60's all of his arguments, and a few other inane ones, were used to keep black people from using the same bathrooms as white people.
I do, it's completely ridiculous to compare the two & even Black Lives Matter or some other similar group have come forward asking NOT to be involved in this issue, even by name.

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a4plz: While I appreciate that social justice groups have been known to downplay some pretty sinister shit, I doubt that anybody is going to just casually get away with molesting children while we're living in a society that believes paedophiles should be thrown into volcanoes just for existing. Come on, this bathroom nonsense isn't going to change anything.
Ah, but paedophiles HAVE come forward & are striving to be socially accepted.

http://www.salon.com/2016/05/17/im_not_a_monster_a_pedophile_on_attraction_love_and_a_life_of_loneliness/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

https://youtu.be/IOWU6q_Fa4s

Do you know about the site that guy set up, "virtuous pedophile" or whatever? What do you think this is all about? They're being given a voice. Next thing you know, all the Social Justice Warriors - some of which HAVE been exposed as paedos - will be lauding the bravery of adults having sex with children.
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Dalthnock: Ah, but paedophiles HAVE come forward & are striving to be socially accepted.

http://www.salon.com/2016/05/17/im_not_a_monster_a_pedophile_on_attraction_love_and_a_life_of_loneliness/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

https://youtu.be/IOWU6q_Fa4s

Do you know about the site that guy set up, "virtuous pedophile" or whatever? What do you think this is all about? They're being given a voice. Next thing you know, all the Social Justice Warriors - some of which HAVE been exposed as paedos - will be lauding the bravery of adults having sex with children.
It's too late at night for me to dive into that material now, but the pro-pedo agenda has been mostly focused on not treating people as monsters when they haven't committed any crimes yet. Being okay with kiddy rape is another game entirely. I think that's even more of a sensationalist suggestion than the transphobia one you shot down.
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Dalthnock: There's already one assault, at least, not widely reported by the media. Who knows if there are others? And no, the attacker was NOT a trans person. But with these laws, he was able to enter the toilet after the little girl with no problem.

But why am I wasting my time on you? You know that.
So even with the law in place, someone was assaulted. As I said the law will not protect anyone.

Meanwhile people that now have all or most of then the physical characteristics of a female are forced to use a male bath room, and those that appear male (beards and all) must go and use female facilities.
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itchy01ca01: Dude if you're worried about people being assaulted in washrooms...

THERE ARE LAWS FOR THAT.

Thinking that suddenly assaults are going to go up...

point to you being a transphobe. It's quite simple.
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Dalthnock: Yeah, it's that simple. Why are YOU diverting this issue into transphobia, when that is certainly not the case?

There's already one assault, at least, not widely reported by the media. Who knows if there are others? And no, the attacker was NOT a trans person. But with these laws, he was able to enter the toilet after the little girl with no problem.
The laws you are referring to don't affect whether that person was able to enter the bathroom or toilet with no problem.

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PetrusOctavianus: And now we have this case where special snowflakes have to be the center of the Universe instead of being adult, adapt and take some consideration to children. Children are after all a much larger group than the special snowflakes.
So, not only are you sexist (see your feeble justification of the sexist game mechanic in the Pool of Radiance series), but you are *also* transphobic on top of that? (The very use of the term "special snowflake" in this particular context implies that.)

I'll tell you this: If I were running a Dungeons and Dragons campaign, I would not let you play.
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PetrusOctavianus: And now we have this case where special snowflakes have to be the center of the Universe instead of being adult, adapt and take some consideration to children. Children are after all a much larger group than the special snowflakes.
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dtgreene: So, not only are you sexist (see your feeble justification of the sexist game mechanic in the Pool of Radiance series), but you are *also* transphobic on top of that? (The very use of the term "special snowflake" in this particular context implies that.)

I'll tell you this: If I were running a Dungeons and Dragons campaign, I would not let you play.
Oh no, the person who can only play female characters, and who even has to make a disclaimer when using that hated word "he", accuses me of being sexist. :-)
You are priceless.
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Dalthnock: Yeah, it's that simple. Why are YOU diverting this issue into transphobia, when that is certainly not the case?

There's already one assault, at least, not widely reported by the media. Who knows if there are others? And no, the attacker was NOT a trans person. But with these laws, he was able to enter the toilet after the little girl with no problem.
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dtgreene: The laws you are referring to don't affect whether that person was able to enter the bathroom or toilet with no problem.

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PetrusOctavianus: And now we have this case where special snowflakes have to be the center of the Universe instead of being adult, adapt and take some consideration to children. Children are after all a much larger group than the special snowflakes.
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dtgreene: So, not only are you sexist (see your feeble justification of the sexist game mechanic in the Pool of Radiance series), but you are *also* transphobic on top of that? (The very use of the term "special snowflake" in this particular context implies that.)

I'll tell you this: If I were running a Dungeons and Dragons campaign, I would not let you play.
If you were running a D&D game, you would be playing by yourself, for obvious reasons.
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dtgreene: The laws you are referring to don't affect whether that person was able to enter the bathroom or toilet with no problem.

So, not only are you sexist (see your feeble justification of the sexist game mechanic in the Pool of Radiance series), but you are *also* transphobic on top of that? (The very use of the term "special snowflake" in this particular context implies that.)

I'll tell you this: If I were running a Dungeons and Dragons campaign, I would not let you play.
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Emob78: If you were running a D&D game, you would be playing by yourself, for obvious reasons.
Actually, no; I have met people in real life who, if I felt inclined to, I could realistically play D&D or similar games with. Hence, I would be able to find someone to play with.
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dtgreene: [you are *also* transphobic
That is offensive.
You have no right to call me transphobic, since I don't identify myself as transphobic.
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tinyE: I wonder if the OP knows that in the States in the 50's and 60's all of his arguments, and a few other inane ones, were used to keep black people from using the same bathrooms as white people.
Being Black and having a gender identity crisis are two entirely different matters, leagues apart and totally unrelated. Unless we are talking about a LGBT member which also happens to be a Black. I seriously somehow doubt that all niggaz brothers back in 50s and 60s chopped off their balls, got a plastic pussy and fake boobs, then wanted to roam the female restrooms wearing a grin and nothing else!
Post edited May 21, 2016 by KiNgBrAdLeY7