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Plentiful by any definition!

Agarest: Generations of War - Collector's Edition, a fantastic kawaii tactical RPG coming with a full soundtrack, digital artbook, and more sweet, sweet bonus content, is available 50% off, DRM-free on GOG.com. With such a discount we don't see a good reason to pass on the collector's version, and get the cheaper regular edition, but if you make that call remember that you can always go for an upgrade later. The -50% discount for all three items (collectors edition, standard edition, and collector's edition upgrade) lasts until Monday, December 8, at 10:59AM GMT.

Agarest: Generations of War - Collector's Edition includes many unique features that cannot be found in any other Strategy Role Playing Game. It takes place across 5 generations of heroes, starting with your first character, Leonhardt. During each generation you will build relationships with 3 different female party members, and at the end of each generation's story arc you must choose to marry one of the girls. Unite with your chosen heroine and use the “Soul Breed” system to shape the fate of the next generation of heroes. Build your ultimate army of warriors and master Extra Skills, Special Arts and Over Kills to defeat colossal enemies! Choose the path of Darkness or Light through a truly epic story, spanning multiple generations, and battle hundreds of different creatures using an array of character abilities, in a compelling and innovative turn-based combat system.
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candesco: And if the dlc's are actually just cheats and which you can also get just to play the game, then it's no loss at all.
The stat and money boost DLCs are obviously things you can get by just investing time into the game. The DLC weapons, however, are not available in the game normally. They are essentially god-tier weapons that make playing the game much easier. A completionist might be disappointed they cannot acquire these, but their entire purpose is just to cheapen the game experience.

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candesco: I only wonder if Zero would make it to here, as that one ain't a cheat item.
Agarest Zero is plagued by cheap, pay-to-win DLC, too. There are a couple of DLC packs that offer extra scenarios or alternate costumes, but the bulk of the DLC is just like the stuff the first game is riddled with. Regardless, if sales of the first game are good enough here, I don't see why Zero couldn't get a GOG release eventually either.
While it's nice to see a variety of games released on GOG, I wouldn't recommend this one to fans of Japanese RPGs, especially ones who like tactical RPGs with some real meat on them and want them to be free of possible of BS mechanics. Agarest adds mechanic upon mechanic into this big fat broth of gameplay incoherence. It's really just an excuse to make things as convoluted as possible. If you want to really play the game, you have to be prepared for the most ridiculously stupid balancing decisions and one-sided tactics you can imagine. For instance, the mechanics revolving around items and weapon/armor tweaking in this game are eye-bugging-out insane. Just about everything in the game makes you jump through a ridiculous hoop. It doesn't add complexity or make the game more nuanced. It's there for the appearance of depth alone.

On top of that, the story is listless and just kind of floats to its conclusion, full of stock characters who don't display much uniqueness outside of the bland traits their design suggests and it's got tons of scenes where the obvious intent was to display some sort of angle of individuality or comradery ala Fire Emblem or Sakura Taisen, but just ends up being a flat joke that's carried on far too long.

If you're familiar with Idea Factory games, that's the kind of quality you can expect. This isn't a thoughtfully designed, carefully written game. It was slapped together hastily and it really shows.

If you haven't checked it out yet, you would do much better to buy The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky for your Japanese RPG fix. This is just an insult to the genre.

But you don't take my word for it, that's just my take on this game and I thought it might be helpful to prospective buyers. (Though sorry to GOG, they're just the curators. :P)
Post edited December 02, 2014 by Sazanamistyle
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Silverhawk170485: That's what the name of the game sais "Generations of War". You have to play it generations long, in realtime. :p

I also think that the first intention of the developer wasn't to rip off the gamers. I think the game was originally ment for gamers on the asian market. Asian gamers usually like a lot of grinding while for example european gamers like to see a fast progress and victory.

That was also a reason why Daemon Souls was released in America and Europe long after it was released in Asia. The publishers weren't sure if the american and european gamers will like a game with this difficulty and if they can sell it in these countrys well. Such games are more for hardcore gamers.
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Frostyfirefly: Generations, heh, good one! :)

I still think they wanted to rip off gamers, there are ways to extend gameplay without making it tedious.

When it comes to Demon Souls, I think the difference is worlds apart; that game brings new elements into play with each level; this one, does not. Skill difficulty is ok, but grind-for-a-month difficulty just so you can move on to the next level (on the same map), in my opinion, is not. Anyone who has studied a bit of marketing can see what they pulled there.
It seems savegames from the Steam version are compatible for the GOG version so, if someone who would like to have the DLC in GOG they just need to get a savegame from the Steam version from someone who has it and that's it.
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blackbishop86: It seems savegames from the Steam version are compatible for the GOG version so, if someone who would like to have the DLC in GOG they just need to get a savegame from the Steam version from someone who has it and that's it.
good to know !
I tried this game today and at the beginning you can choose a difficulty level. When you choose "Easy" it sais that this is for the players who want enjoy the story. The enemies are not so tough and there will be added several help packs. So maybe some people did some prejustice and the game is already fitted to everyones desires? I didn't play it for a long time yet, so I can't assess if that huge grinding is also needed on a lower difficulty level.
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Silverhawk170485: I tried this game today and at the beginning you can choose a difficulty level. When you choose "Easy" it sais that this is for the players who want enjoy the story. The enemies are not so tough and there will be added several help packs. So maybe some people did some prejustice and the game is already fitted to everyones desires? I didn't play it for a long time yet, so I can't assess if that huge grinding is also needed on a lower difficulty level.
I played this on the playstation a long time ago, the grinding was inherently built into the game. I actually enjoyed the game, EXCEPT how they made you fight so many battles inbetween story nodes. That's where the grinding came into it for me, not the difficulty but the number of battles you had to fight to progress. The battles were also very similar, so it's almost like you would be fighting the same battle 3-4 times in a row before you moved on.

I've tried playing it through a couple of times, but I always lose interest about 20% of the way through as there were too many of those boring battles(not because the battles were inherently boring themselves, but rather because you had to repeat so many similar ones all in a row). They really needed to cut out one battle between each story node, and even then it would be a bit much, though tolerable.

I don't think lowering the difficulty will have any effect on this part of the game. If going through the same battles over and over don't bother you as much as they did I, you could greatly enjoy the game. These extra padding battles were my only complaint about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yideFiibHv8

Is that the same as the soundtrack in CE ?
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jackster79: Edit: On the topic of the game, wish-listed for now. Still recovering from the Fall Sale and even if I do get it it is going to be a long time before I start let alone finish it if ever.
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Niggles: dont forget we have another gog sale incoming very shortly :P
I have not forgotten...

However, some real life issues have arisen in the last couple weeks that have stolen my focus, and I expect that will continue to the foreseeable future. As a result, not sure how much gaming I will get done anytime soon. Therefore, not expecting to pick up for myself much in any sale soon. Time will tell how accurate this prediction is.

Still will be interesting to see what is presented.
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jackster79: However, some real life issues have arisen in the last couple weeks that have stolen my focus, and I expect that will continue to the foreseeable future.
good luck with it, whatever it is
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jackster79: However, some real life issues have arisen in the last couple weeks that have stolen my focus, and I expect that will continue to the foreseeable future.
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joriandrake: good luck with it, whatever it is
Thanks - will definitely need it!
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TurnipSlayerr: For people wondering about some missing DLCs, it's essentially as some people are saying, these DLCs which we don't have are things such as stat increases or other items which are unlockable in-game. We decided not to go with these DLCs as they don't actually add significant new content to the game
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Pheace: You're making the decision whether these people get to buy those DLC or not based on what you think of those DLC? Shouldn't that be up to the customers?
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TurnipSlayerr: Additional DLCs do complicate matters more for us and do clutter the catalogue. We felt that based on reactions to other DLC releases that the reaction to such DLC would not be positive and so we decided not to include it for the release. If people feel strongly about this then they can feel free to comment here. If we feel that there is a significant enough interest in such DLCs then we may reconsider this.
I strongly prefer that you allow us to decide for ourselves whether or not particular DLC is worthwhile.

Tastes differ. For example: Many consider alternate skins worthless, "not real content", etc. But I loved the Batman Beyond skin for Arkham City. It added to my enjoyment of the game and was most definitely worth the price I paid for it (one can of NOS).

Put simply: Your version lacks options that other vendors provide. Customers face a choice between a DRM'd package with all options available and the GOG DRM-free package lacking those options. That is a crappy situation, and imo GOG made the wrong choice here.
Post edited December 04, 2014 by SeduceMePlz
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SeduceMePlz: Put simply: Your version lacks options that other vendors provide. Customers face a choice between a DRM'd package with all options available and the GOG DRM-free package lacking those options. That is a crappy situation, and imo GOG made the wrong choice here.
Steam version has no package with all-in-one dlc atm

if you exclude the one which updates the version to the collector's one :

there are 6 separates dlc ; for a total price almost the double (for no real content , aside some items) of the Collector's edition ; plus those dlcs will pose some problems with GOG catalog.

Left the option to have a all-in-one dlc package , but does the publisher will accept that , not sure.

And of course all items not avaible while playing the game , are across all dlc....
Post edited December 04, 2014 by DyNaer
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SeduceMePlz: Put simply: Your version lacks options that other vendors provide. Customers face a choice between a DRM'd package with all options available and the GOG DRM-free package lacking those options. That is a crappy situation, and imo GOG made the wrong choice here.
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DyNaer: Steam version has no package with all-in-one dlc atm
Note that I did not say it does. I said "all options available". ;)

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DyNaer: if you exclude the one which updates the version to the collector's one :

there are 6 separates dlc ; for a total price almost the double (for no realm content , aside some items) of the Collector's edition ; plus those dlcs will pose some problems with GOG catalog.
I'm counting two DLC not available on GOG... "DLC Bundle 1" & "DLC Bundle 2" for $4.99 each...
Post edited December 04, 2014 by SeduceMePlz
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SeduceMePlz: I'm counting two DLC not available on GOG... "DLC Bundle 1" & "DLC Bundle 2" for $4.99 each...
er no ;P , expand the list ; there are 6
I cant believe people actually want cheats just to have the options available....