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This is my favourite topic
Posted July 20, 2013
Do we get a free meal or something when the harassment... erh... experiment has ended?
Posted July 20, 2013
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yyahoo: tinyE is the best example of rep downvoting "harassment" because he frequently deserves it and asks for it??
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xyem: His posts may deserve to be downrated, but he does not deserve, let alone frequently deserve, to be subject of harassment via downrating. At least not that I've seen. If you can direct me to where he has harassed someone or been malicious though, I might just change my mind.

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yyahoo: It can't just be one user going around downvoting a user to cause them to lose rep.
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xyem: Yes it can. It is called "having more than one account".

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yyahoo: You exaggerate greatly. One person couldn't cause someone with 200+ rep to go down into the negatives. If tinyE is a good example of anything, that's it.
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xyem: I am not exaggerating at all, it has been done before. The changes that GOG made since then just raised the bar to do it above the average forum-goer and made the process slower for someone like myself.

And, you know, see above. From the perspective of the problem area, 1 person with 100 accounts == 100 people.

tinyE is not a good example of this because his low-ratings get undone by people upvoting. If 2 people are making his posts low-rated, it only takes 1 to make it neutral again. If I intended on harassing him this way, the system I created would adjust as required to keep them low-rated.

Trust me, I've clearly put more thought into how to mount such an offensive seeing as you didn't even figure out that someone could just make more than one account.

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yyahoo: The users here on the forum decided to use rep as a requisite for contests etc. Obviously, it's a poor choice. Join date would be a much better stat to use. If someone is going to scam the people in this forum, they aren't going to join, wait 6 months and then join a contest to have a 1 in 100 chance to win a game or to try and rip off someone in a trade. Most of the scammers are new users who never had the time to build up any rep in the first place. Honestly, if there's a misuse of rep, it's in using it to determine trade partners. If someone really wants to scam you, they'll join, make 1 inoffensive post a day for a month or so, and then rip someone off easy. Using your member of choice, tinyE has never gotten so low that he would have been excluded from a contest or subjected to negative treatment in a trade.
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xyem: Because tinyE gained enough rep (possibly just due to people countering the downrating.. the system may be biased towards favouring upreps..) to be able to sustain such a manual attack. See above for why you're reasoning is wrong.

EDIT: Oh, and it is entirely possible that he countered it by making multiple accounts and uprated his posts from them. Again, it has been done before!

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yyahoo: Again, it's not my understanding that one user can successfully "harass" and affect someone's rep. Freedom to speak your mind and state offensive or controversial things is offset by other users being able to reply and/or downvote said user. It's part of the balancing of the system.
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xyem: See above for how you reasoning and thus conclusion are wrong.

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yyahoo: I'm curious though, is there anyone out there that is being "harassed" that has been affected so much that they have not been able to join contests or trade games? The most extreme example that I've seen in the past few months people have been complaining about this happening has been tinyE, and he is still in the 170s.
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xyem: No-one that we know of, but that doesn't mean there hasn't been. They may have joined the forum, said that they liked Steam and seeing their rep plummet from the harassment, thought "screw this community" and left without saying anything. Beware of Survivor Bias!
Meh, I'm just not one for conspiracy theories. Occam's razor and all...

Oh well, I'm out.
Posted July 20, 2013
Ooh, creepy!
Posted July 21, 2013
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tinyE: Where have you been? Shit man, I missed you.
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Roman5: I was on vacation for a while and aww man, I missed you too :3
Get a room, you two. ... And a webcam! *eg*
Posted July 21, 2013
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xyem: As I work on a Perl module for interfacing with GOG for my giveaway topics, I figured I may as well set something like this up as there is a fair amount of discussion about rep but we lack a lot of information.

Basically, a script will scan this topic at a set interval and record the rep of each poster.

Unless you want to be included, please direct any questions or comments to me in a PM!

RepLog went live at 2013-07-21T02:00+0000, logging usernames, reputation and stars at 15 minute intervals. (The interval may be changed in the future for new circumstances or on the request of GOG staff.)

As of 2013-07-21T02:00+0000, the following members are RepLogged:

AFnord
Aver
Azrael360
Barefoot_Monkey
GaminggUy45
HomerSimpson
Ian
JMich
Jekadu
Licurg
Lifthrasil
LiquidOxygen80
Namur
Navagon
Nirth
PaterAlf
Piranjade
Ptah
RealWeaponX
Roman5
Shaolin_sKunk
Snickersnack
TheJoe
Thunderstone
Tw2Brick
Ultimatum
Wishbone
akhliber
alexhatter
amok
dandi8
djranis
geoconker
hedwards
misteryo
morciu
ne_zavarj
oasis789
oldschool
pigdog
reaver894
te_lanus
tinyE
triock
wpegg
xyem
yyahoo
Sounds interesting. Are you planning to make a webbased dashboard / overview, some sort of statistics (image)?
Do you use cronjobs or are you running your computer the whole time?
Posted July 21, 2013
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Daniel Ruf: Sounds interesting. Are you planning to make a webbased dashboard / overview, some sort of statistics (image)?
Do you use cronjobs or are you running your computer the whole time?
Yeah, I will probably make some sort of page at some point as I am going to make one for the giveaway too once it has been rewritten to use this new API module thing.

It's actually both. It is currently run through cronjobs on my desktop machine but will likely be moved to Dog who is currently running as a minecraft server for someone and eventually move back on Donkey (my actual server) once she's back online (rooms are being decorated, so all my equipment is being moved around).
Posted July 21, 2013
Is trading allowed because I'm offering up Steven Jackson for Reggie Bush.

Am I in the wrong thread?
Posted July 21, 2013
Hi

Not sure what the use of it. But hey... why not?
Posted July 21, 2013
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yyahoo: Meh, I'm just not one for conspiracy theories. Occam's razor and all...

Oh well, I'm out.
I've noticed that whenever someone leaves an argument like this, they always have to have "the last word". Why not just say "I'm not discussing this any further"?

Calling me a conspiracy theorist and then leaving the argument is an underhanded move. You can't throw a punch and then say "I'm not fighting anymore!" before I get to respond in kind because then if I do reply, it makes it look like I am continuing an ended fight.

Especially when you are clearly wrong. I wasn't even saying that it was going on, just that could be what is going on. I was arguing the merits of your position, not positing an explanation for current events.

Claiming "Occam's Razor" to be on your side is incorrect because you are not proposing an explanation for the situation, you are just denying it is going on. Your claim that tinyE is losing rep because his posts deserve to be downrated is false the moment he gets a low-rated post that didn't deserve the low-rating in itself and that has occured.

You say you don't care about your rep. You say that I am exaggerating the power of one person. You know what is missing? A PM in my inbox from yourself giving me written permission to demonstrate such an attack.. against yourself.

You think I'm wrong? Volunteer.
Posted July 21, 2013
for the greater good
Posted July 21, 2013
Fashinating.
Posted July 21, 2013
I am in, more because I would like to see the statistics at the end though.
Not being very interesting I can see my portion having very little movement.
Posted July 21, 2013
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yyahoo: Meh, I'm just not one for conspiracy theories. Occam's razor and all...

Oh well, I'm out.
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xyem: I've noticed that whenever someone leaves an argument like this, they always have to have "the last word". Why not just say "I'm not discussing this any further"?

Calling me a conspiracy theorist and then leaving the argument is an underhanded move. You can't throw a punch and then say "I'm not fighting anymore!" before I get to respond in kind because then if I do reply, it makes it look like I am continuing an ended fight.

Especially when you are clearly wrong. I wasn't even saying that it was going on, just that could be what is going on. I was arguing the merits of your position, not positing an explanation for current events.

Claiming "Occam's Razor" to be on your side is incorrect because you are not proposing an explanation for the situation, you are just denying it is going on. Your claim that tinyE is losing rep because his posts deserve to be downrated is false the moment he gets a low-rated post that didn't deserve the low-rating in itself and that has occured.

You say you don't care about your rep. You say that I am exaggerating the power of one person. You know what is missing? A PM in my inbox from yourself giving me written permission to demonstrate such an attack.. against yourself.

You think I'm wrong? Volunteer.
Dang! I apologize for whatever you accuse me of. You can have the last word. I don't want it. Can I leave this discussion now?
Posted July 21, 2013
Just started this day's dose of downrepping for me ;)
Posted July 21, 2013
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Licurg: Just started this day's dose of downrepping for me ;)
Yeah, same for me. :p
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