In hindsight do you think some form of protection for the SK should've been in place at least for the first 1-2 days for situations like this?
Or maybe at least not give town power roles. It seems nigh impossible to me for the SK to survive for so long in this setup.

Like what? Lynchproof?
The doctor could only protect from the vigilante's kills. He couldn't protect from the SK ones.
So it is a curious case of the vigilante being the wild card against the SK, but also helping the SK thin the ranks, if the vigilante is using his ability.

Wow. Quick game.

Nice turn around at the end there to lynch Lift instead of Ix (good game town!), I did actually believe both but of the two I did think Lift was the more likely scum.

Having said that... wow I found quite a few of you scummy, I was sure yogs and Dess were a scum team towards the end there as they seemed to be working in tandem on a few things..

Maybe lynchproof or some other, more dastardly and mysterious thing like manipulating the lynch - i.e. 50% the lynch may not affect the current target if they are the SK but someone else. In case it hits the flavor is something like "Just as they were to hang him the chandelier chain broke and the gigantic thing crushed Mariah's chlamydia-ridden body". Something like that. As for the Vig I don't know about others but I wouldn't start killing people left and right immediately (I learned my lesson with Robbeasy). I just feel the SK was exposed on too many fronts at the same time.

I would. Every. Single. Time.

:D

There is a reason you die on D1 my friend :D

Nah, SK didn't need any protection. He had no chance to win anyway - the fun would have been in the way it played out if he could have survived... just trying to see how long he could push it. Poor Lift.

Finished up the observer thread, and have only two notes:

If mocking the mod was grounds for mod-kill, our games would be pretty short. :)

adalia ALWAYS thinks I'm scum! Usually because I am. With him.

Nah, I honestly generally find you town (because I'm scum, and know you are XD)

I think the chances of the SK in this setup rely quite a bit on town taking a while to figure out that he's the only thread to them.

It is actually even funnier when you look at Lifthrasil's wagon: Krypsyn, yogsloth, cristigale, lxamyakxim and me being on the wagon makes "family sticks together" situation

I didn't think so :þ but wasn't sure! I was just checking for the sake of the rules/role, not because I cared personally.

I loved how you played Mariah. I actually think so many of the role-assignments w/flavor were well placed on the players, all around really.

It was really nice seeing everyone embrace the flavor to all the varying degrees, well done town! On getting the SK D1 too! Good job.

I think what needed to happen was that Lift needed to realize that since he knew he was lying about being Vig., that Ix very well was telling the truth, and so with that 2 things are possibly true:

1.) If Ix dies D1, he could flip his claim, and then regardless of what Lift does N1, he is likely to be the D2 lynch, and game will be over.

2.) If he dies, well, he's dead and he can't do anything and it is game over him.

so, in order to not allow either of those to happen, Lift should remove his vote from Ix and push someone else. Push the idea that 2 town-vigs with alternating/differing mechanics is a possibility.

Wow, that one was over fast. Got some good chuckles which was well needed. Fun game and setup will add more when not on phone.

Thanks for all the well wishes. Didn't personally know any of the victims but hit awful close to home.

Good to hear you and yours are OK, wish there were no victims.

Having finally read through the game conclusion, the closed/open question is interesting.

If it's open, the SK has to claim vanilla as far as I can see. The trouble is, if forced to claim, they're likely screwed anyway since town pretty much has to lynch anyone claiming vanilla, at least in the early game.

That said, I think it's not quite balanced closed either. Was entertaining though, which is what ultimately counts.

Unless I missed it, no one seems to have observed that the doctor's powers don't counter the SK (stab), just the vig. Not sure that's really enough to swing the odds anywhere back near 50/50, but it's something I guess.

Funny you said that as on my way into work (just before game end) it suddenly dawned on me. I was going to ask Ixam if there was any flavor to his style of kill if we were still deadlocked. Given that the first kill was knives, and Lift's housewife claim didn't sound like guns, I was about to switch my vote back to him. But when I had a chance to check the thread, it was over already.