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Fell asleep again.

First, I'd like to echo to Ixam what RWarehall stated above.

I was thinking about Krypsyn's post…the part about other wagons (besides Ixam) providing better analysis.

If Ixam is scum then Dessimu is very likely town. Flubb might look suspicious for leaving Ixam’s wagon when it reached L-2, it would depend on how it played out. If Ixam is town then 1-2 scum (assuming 3 scum total) are likely on his wagon. Probably not much more to work with.

A player who has made more accusations and observations (apart from flavor) would likely have more useful analysis to their wagon.

I have one player as fairly solid town. Almost everyone else is somewhere in varying degrees of neutral. I am suspicious of Ixam for reasons already stated. Not being willing to identify potential scum candidates does not help.

For this reason, I’m also suspicious of CSPVG, he made a cryptic response about his vote on yogs but seems unwilling to name a real suspect. An inability to commit is often a scum sign. A CSPVG wagon at this point would also provide minimal analysis.

Dessimu has made several solid arguments. I may not agree with them all but he is no longer at the top of my list.

Lift’s vote on Ixam was not unexpected given the situation. Saying Ixam admitted to not being invested in the game was a twist of Ixam’s words. Given Ixam’s play, it was also unnecessary, there are already sufficient reasons to vote for Ixam. The extra embellishment feels like scum trying too hard to make their case. I believe we have more to learn from Lift’s wagon than the other players I find scummy:

Vote Liftrhasil
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Ixamyakxim: If scum / town want to lynch me today though go right ahead but you're not getting more information on my role today.
I have two questions for you. Are you willing to answer these?

1) Assume you die without saying anything else about your role. To the best of your knowledge, will it be clear to the rest of us what you could do? For example, if you flipped "Town Cop", we'd be pretty confident about what you could do. If you flipped "Droid Maintenance Bot", we'd be pretty freaking lost. If you didn't flip at all, we wouldn't know.

2) Assume you survive. When are you going to full claim? I want to see a deadline on this to eliminate possible scum wiggle room.

If you are willing to answer the questions, please do so. If not, please indicate such.
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cristigale: Dessimu has made several solid arguments. I may not agree with them all but he is no longer at the top of my list.
Not to badmouth Dessimu (actually this is more of a praise, really) but he made such as scum last game. To be honest he playing townier than most town.


Give then fact that Ix was at L-1 for some time and didn't hang would suggest that most of the scum were already on him or that he himself is scum. Since I doubt the latter (ladder??) I'm more inclined to believe there were some mafia on that wagon. I also have the distinct feeling at least one of them got off...
My last post was 20 hours ago.

There have been 8 posts since.

You all suck-diddly-uck.
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Bookwyrm627: If you are willing to answer the questions, please do so. If not, please indicate such.
This probably answers Warehall as well.

1) I think so yeah. Depending on how JMich handles things.

2) I was originally intending / considering tomorrow. Now that I'm out anyway I'm pretty positive tomorrow?
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dedoporno: Not to badmouth Dessimu (actually this is more of a praise, really) but he made such as scum last game.
Agreed. Dessimu is likely to be stuck with the stink eye from me this game, because of his excellent performance last game.

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dedoporno: Give then fact that Ix was at L-1 for some time and didn't hang would suggest that most of the scum were already on him or that he himself is scum. Since I doubt the latter (ladder??) I'm more inclined to believe there were some mafia on that wagon. I also have the distinct feeling at least one of them got off...
"For some time" = "Maybe an hour". By GOG post timers, Ixam went to L-1 about 23 hours ago, and was unvoted 5 posts later (Lift vote, Ix, Yog, Ix, Krypsyn, Dessimu unvote), again ~23 hours ago.

While I agree that some of the scum have probably left the wagon by now (assuming any were present in the first place), lack of hammer means nothing, unless you are saying a scum Krypsyn posted but chose not to hammer.
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Bookwyrm627: If you are willing to answer the questions, please do so. If not, please indicate such.
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Ixamyakxim: This probably answers Warehall as well.

1) I think so yeah. Depending on how JMich handles things.

2) I was originally intending / considering tomorrow. Now that I'm out anyway I'm pretty positive tomorrow?
Alrighty.

Unvote Ixam.
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Bookwyrm627: "For some time" = "Maybe an hour". By GOG post timers, Ixam went to L-1 about 23 hours ago, and was unvoted 5 posts later (Lift vote, Ix, Yog, Ix, Krypsyn, Dessimu unvote), again ~23 hours ago.
No, no. It was more like 3. I saw the counter yesterday when it showed hours. He stood there for some time which isn't negligibly small.

Krypsyn not hammering doesn't mean a thing. Any scum/town player may not hammer and that won't automatically exonerate them in any way. Posting in between isn't adding any more weight to that, either. A scum may pass by, decide not to hammer for whatever reason and still not post. I don't post every time I visit the thread, I'm sure this applies to others as well.
Actually, no. I'm mistaken. L-2 is the new L-1 for a reason :D
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CSPVG: ...
CSPVG! --- I believe this is your last post. It reads "2 days ago" to me, and while this is not an official prod by any means (that is JMich's job), this is a preliminary notice, with added flavor. (I'm a bit bored just observing and I am permitted to RP here due to role.) If you like this following flavor, expect more in my setup!

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Eugene, I know conversing with family can be hard and frustrating, and I know that trying to work anything out between each other - from how much salt to put in the mashed potatoes to who gets to drive the brand new Ford first - can be infuriating, especially when that whiny brat niece of yours, Mariah, keeps interrupting with nonsense, - I swear if she were able to be on her own or anyone else would have been willing to watch her while you came here for my last days, I would have told you to leave her behind and that you were not allowed to bring her (not true yogs, I love that you're playing!) - but, if you have any hope or interest in getting any part of my fortune, you must show that you want it and participate in the proceedings. Though, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that you continue to disappoint me even after my death with your irresponsible behaviors and bad choices.

Still, none of you have shown me you are deserving of any portion of my fortune. Michael, your wife, Erin, was about ready to be lynched by a handful of these spastic morons, and you pretty much sat back and said nothing in her defense! And then some of the rest of you!! You were all but ready to kill her! And for what? Talking crazy nonsense 75% of the time? Like that's anything but normal for her, or even for the rest of you! Who here isn't hitting a bit of the Laudanum? Besides me, since I'm F[url=]U[/url]CKING DEAD without a head!

Constance at least knows her place and keeps her mouth shut most of the time. She is so worthless and she knows it, all she brings to the table are tits. I think she thinks that her quietness and form are redeeming in some way, I find it despicable and weak, but I suppose those are the qualities of a woman. Why is she even here other than to be a witness to all of your madness?
Post edited February 25, 2016 by drealmer7
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Bookwyrm627: "For some time" = "Maybe an hour". By GOG post timers, Ixam went to L-1 about 23 hours ago, and was unvoted 5 posts later (Lift vote, Ix, Yog, Ix, Krypsyn, Dessimu unvote), again ~23 hours ago.
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dedoporno: No, no. It was more like 3. I saw the counter yesterday when it showed hours. He stood there for some time which isn't negligibly small.
I checked the timers (59 minutes ago) when I commented about it. Can 3 hours pass between two posts, while GOG still says "23 hours" on both posts? As I understand it, only an hour and a half could pass before it updates, tops.

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dedoporno: Krypsyn not hammering doesn't mean a thing. Any scum/town player may not hammer and that won't automatically exonerate them in any way. Posting in between isn't adding any more weight to that, either. A scum may pass by, decide not to hammer for whatever reason and still not post. I don't post every time I visit the thread, I'm sure this applies to others as well.
And that's pretty much exactly what I meant when I said "lack of hammer means nothing".
vote count / votecount / vote-count :

Lifthrasil - 4 - Ixamyakxim, Krypsyn, RWarehall, cristigale
Ixamyakxim - 2 - yogsloth, Lifthrasil
yogsloth - 1 - CSPVG
CSPVG - 1 - dedoporno
krypsyn - 1 - flubbucket

Lifthrasil is closest to lynch at L-3

12 alive means 7 to lynch

Dessimu, trentonlf and Bookwrym62 are not currently voting.

If there are any errors please let me know!
Post edited February 25, 2016 by drealmer7
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drealmer7: ... especially when that whiny brat niece of yours, Mariah, keeps interrupting with nonsense, - I swear if she were able to be on her own or anyone else would have been willing to watch her while you came here for my last days, I would have told you to leave her behind and that you were not allowed to bring her
OoooOOOOGHGHHRRRHHGHH!!!

Even from beyond the grave you can't stop pissing me off, Grandpa! I swear to GOD you make me so mad so mad I just CAN'T TAKE IT I could almost stab you in the HEART in the middle of the night with a letter opener and stomp on your dead body and then steal your... your...

Ah...

Heh.

Metaphorically speaking. Of course.
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yogsloth: ...
I cannot even stand that noise you call speaking. If I had been alive to give my final words instead of having been killed, I would have disowned you. If only I could do such from the grave! I'm not surprised you want your step-mother dead, you'd obviously expressed you'd essentially like almost anyone decapitated just because it makes good entertainment for your feeble brain, and if you can get her out of your house on top of that and have "Daddy" to yourself, I'm sure you'd think the world was made for you afterall. Despicable despicable child.
Post edited February 25, 2016 by drealmer7
Ixam, one last question, when you mistakenly accused Lift instead of Dessimu and left your vote on Lift...
Do you actually suspect Lift? What are your concerns with him?