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Unvote Ixamyakxim

If you truly have a power role a day one lynch is extremely bad for town. So I will remove my vote for now to see how you continue to act. What I still don't get is why when you voted Lift on the premise of something Dessimu said but when you realized it was really not Lift that said it you didn't change your vote.
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trentonlf: Unvote Ixamyakxim
Oh hey, Uncle Adam, how nice of you to stop by. No, don't worry about bolding, we can all figure out what you mean. We're used to your inarticulate mumbling. "murmurmurmurmur needsomemoney hurburdurbur wheresthebrandy blurburburbur cantfindmypants" etc, etc.

Looks like Mommy is getting a free pass. Who else doesn't deserve any money? Oh, I know, every last one of you.
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Ixamyakxim: (no offense dedo).
None taken.


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Dessimu: I would also like to hear opinions from flub, Bookwyrm, dedo, RWarehall, CSPVG and cristigale.
I didn't feel like voting for Ix before and that didn't change after his half-claim. At this point I'm far more willing to get back to what I said before and start antagonizing my step-mother which would be Lift.


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Dessimu: "More scum than anticipated" or "One scum with some anti-town roles". You are now near the end of your rope. Who do you guess are these anti-towns? Be specific in names.
I'm curious how do you expect that will work.
I hate posting on GOG from my phone......

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dedoporno: I'm curious how do you expect that will work.
Say, Ixamyakxim is lynched now or killed at night. If flips town, then hoorah, we shall consider and value the opinion. If flips scum, then hoorah, mentioned people are not what they look like. I think you get this thing pretty well and I am not sure what else can you be curious about.

Also, townies should share opinions. Lxamyakxim share does not. Not even when at L-1 or L-2. Why? Looks scummy.
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Dessimu: Say, Ixamyakxim is lynched now or killed at night. If flips town, then hoorah, we shall consider and value the opinion. If flips scum, then hoorah, mentioned people are not what they look like.
I understand the principle behind sharing reads and suspicions. I was more interested in how did you expect him to "guess" who the scum/anti-town roles are. If he were to share, how would you like him to back said suspicions up?
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Lifthrasil: vote Ixamyakxim
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drealmer7: Need to check with JMich on how this is working for certain. But I think an unvote is necessary before placing a new vote and I don't count this as a vote and still have your vote on krypsyn. If you want to be sure before JMich checks in, simply unvote krypsyn and vote ix in your next post and I will count it as your vote being on ix
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vote Ixamyakxim


I still find his vague "Hey, I got a power role, but I won't say what it is" scummy.

Think about it. If he is town, he already made himself a target by implying some super important role. He knows that and even asks for a hypothetical doctor's protection. So if he really were town, he wouldn't lose anything by a full claim, instead of this vagueness. So for a town power role it doesn't make sense to paint a target on himself, but withhold information from town at the same time.

For scum, however, this claim makes sense. It is safer that claiming, for example, cop or whatever, because the actual cop then would know that it is a false-claim. At the same time Ix tries to raise anxiety by pointing out that he has information that leads to the guess that there's more scum around than usual. Again without substantiating what kind of information that is. I say that's lots of smoke and mirrors and an actual town role would have shared something of more substance at L-1 - instead of risking that that information is lost to town in some speedhammer.
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dedoporno:
Since it's Day 1, I am ok with pretty much anything, starting with a gut feeling. If Ixamyakxim was not at L-1/2, asking to guess possible scum would not be in a great demand. The situation, however, is that if Ixamyakxim is town, we are highly unlikely to see him alive on Day 2. Thus, any guessing is helpful to town. Unless Ixamyakxim is scum. Not sharing opinion is the best way to play now, for if we lynch Ixamyakxim, we can't guess scum based on his guesses.
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Dessimu: Considering lxamyakxim's case (L-2 now), I would also like to hear opinions from ...Bookwyrm ...
My highly informed opinion is that this is turning out to be quite interesting.

Ixam has claimed a role, and claimed to be town aligned (non-neutral). However, the way he has spoken about it indicates that perhaps it is non-standard in some way. He might simply be the double voter, in which case I strongly doubt he is mafia. A double voter might be neutral, but even that seems unlikely. Simply too unbalancing against town, based on the currently available public information.

Naturally, the claim of having a power role, especially an unspecified one, is a decent idea for scum close to lynch, regardless of whether they have a power. This being the case, I want something more from Ix before I decide to unvote him. I might be lured away to another wagon, but unless that happens or I get something more concrete information, I'll sit here.

Also, the mod statements regarding voting and unvoting seems to strongly imply that one or more people have multiple votes. Probably just one (maybe two), with one.

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RWarehall: But let me add one thing...
At this point, I see no reason why you should be hiding your role. You've claimed a power role. You've claimed it implies something about scum numbers. As a loyal outed town, to help us (including you) win the game, you should be providing us with this useful information before you are NK'd and it dies with you.
Actually, my question would be "If you die before revealing, will it be clear to the town what you could do (and what it means)?"

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yogsloth: Oh hey, Uncle Adam, how nice of you to stop by. No, don't worry about bolding, we can all figure out what you mean. We're used to your inarticulate mumbling. "murmurmurmurmur needsomemoney hurburdurbur wheresthebrandy blurburburbur cantfindmypants" etc, etc.
A cursory inspection of my person would reveal the location of his pants. Sometimes, anyway.

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dedoporno: I understand the principle behind sharing reads and suspicions. I was more interested in how did you expect him to "guess" who the scum/anti-town roles are. If he were to share, how would you like him to back said suspicions up?
The same way the rest of the townies do it right now: wild mass guessing based on itty bitty tidbits, then crazed accusations based on who jumps on which tidbits. And then cake.
Well, Mom's at L-2 again.

Doesn't look like she wants to make more clear on her vague "I'm too important to be voted out of my share" argument.

But if we go ahead and vote her out and it turns out she wasn't some kind of deranged murdering lunatic, heavens forbid, I think I'll have a pretty good idea of who is, don't you?
I will wait for cristigale, flubbucket an CSPVG 's opinions before jumping back. It would help if Ixamyakxim said something more.
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Dessimu: You are now near the end of your rope. Who do you guess are these anti-towns? Be specific in names.
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dedoporno: I'm curious how do you expect that will work.
I'm guessing it wouldn't matter. Regardless of what I said, it was probably more intended to provide fire to get back on my wagon. LOL like I would ever actually know at this point. I was merely inferring from the nature of my power - the WHO of the matter at this point is all questions.

Oh and more information, just because it was brought up earlier. I'm not a cop. I don't know if there is a cop.

I'm being coy about my role because I want scum to think long and hard about whether they want to waste their night kill on me tonight. They might not want to. Maybe my role could help them. Maybe they're worried about a doctor. Maybe they think I'm still scummy enough that they could put off killing me tonight and get town to lynch me tomorrow.

If scum / town want to lynch me today though go right ahead but you're not getting more information on my role today.

You CAN probably get information on the people most eager to get town to do scum work, by lynching me, however.
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trentonlf: I hate posting ....
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Dessimu: I will wait for cristigale, flubbucket an CSPVG 's opinions before jumping back. It would help if Ixamyakxim said something more.
First, let me start with Ixam's claim. The claim makes it hard to be any less suspicious of Ixam. Could be a town power role, could be scum. Having said that, I almost tend to believe him. When we were on the same scum team in the all-scum game (everyone was scum), Ixam was paranoid about our team. He was convinced one or us was a traitor. Not sure why, there was nothing in the game to indicate such. He hid vital details from our team concerning his role and night results. So it doesn't surprise me that a town Ixam would be hesitant to share the details about his role. I am far from convinced he is town, but I'm more leary of leaving my vote on him now.

I keep getting interrupted, will continue these thoughts in a bit..until I have a chance to flesh this out:
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Simple question for you Ixam. Given your claim that your information suggests something unusual about the scum composition, do you believe that with your death and reveal we will have enough information to reach the same conclusion?

Because if not, you are not being very helpful. Even if you are not lynched, clearly you are likely to die tonight. Any help would be appreciated.