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macuahuitlgog: Not buying this game. It looks good like all the other Mass Effect games but I don't want Origin on my computer.
You're still listening to that sensationalist anti-Origin scare stuff? Come on! It's no worse than the EULA of Steam!
I've no idea who Ms Chobot is, but I love how the dude who looks like a particularly scowly shaved gorilla is voiced by skinny giggly geeky fellow. :-)

But hoo boy the artificially excited boombasticness of that advertisement is beyond ridiculous. And here I thought DA2's marketing campaign was over the top...
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TrIp13G: Oh, totally. Why don't we go spin some brodies in the Normandy, get hella lit with Joker and bang Liara for a third time?

Man, you people. Never satisfied by anything.
Mass Effect: RPG with shooter elements.
Mass Effect 2: Shooter with basic RPG elements.
Mass Effect 3: Multi-player shooter with a choose your own adventure thrown in.

Of course people aren't happy.
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TrIp13G: Oh, totally. Why don't we go spin some brodies in the Normandy, get hella lit with Joker and bang Liara for a third time?

Man, you people. Never satisfied by anything.
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TVs_Frank: Mass Effect: RPG with shooter elements.
Mass Effect 2: Shooter with basic RPG elements.
Mass Effect 3: Multi-player shooter with a choose your own adventure thrown in.

Of course people aren't happy.
Well, we don't know what RPG elements will be there. Bioware assured that they would be more present than in Mass Effect 2.

Only time will tell. It's still to early to say anything.
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TrIp13G: Oh, totally. Why don't we go spin some brodies in the Normandy, get hella lit with Joker and bang Liara for a third time?

Man, you people. Never satisfied by anything.
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TVs_Frank: Mass Effect: RPG with shooter elements.
Mass Effect 2: Shooter with basic RPG elements.
Mass Effect 3: Multi-player shooter with a choose your own adventure thrown in.

Of course people aren't happy.
Yeah cause bringing back the inventory, adding bigger and better skill trees is making it a choose your own adventure... oh wait I forgot they added the OPTION of playing SIDE MISSIONS in co-op the whole game has been destroyed!!
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POLE7645: Well, we don't know what RPG elements will be there. Bioware assured that they would be more present than in Mass Effect 2.

Only time will tell. It's still to early to say anything.
I agree with "only time will tell", but allow me to guffaw at "Bioware assured". Not that long time ago they also assured the protagonist of Dragon Age 2 was the most important person in that setting. Everything that happened in that game would have happened without the protagonist anyway.

All in all, the mindset "all marketing = bullshit" will serve you better than gullibility.
Post edited February 01, 2012 by krakadyla
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POLE7645: Well, we don't know what RPG elements will be there. Bioware assured that they would be more present than in Mass Effect 2.

Only time will tell. It's still to early to say anything.
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krakadyla: I agree with "only time will tell", but allow me to guffaw at "Bioware assured". Not that long time ago they also assured the protagonist of Dragon Age 2 was the most important person in that setting. Everything that happened in that game would have happened without the protagonist anyway.

All in all, the mindset "all marketing = bullshit" will serve you better than gullibility.
If I followed that mindset, I would've never tried (and loved) Deus Ex (it looked to me like any FPS at the time).

When a new game is announced, I wait to see good gameplay footage and/or playing the game before I brush it off. If the only information I have comes from the developpers, I have to assume it's true (beside, the Dragon Age II example is quite easily open to interpretation, but that's not a discussion for this topic (I personally enjoyed the game despite it not reaching my expectation. If they're willing to listen to player feedback, I'd gladly accept a Dragon Age 3)).

Then again, it's a different part of Bioware that develops Mass Effect 3 than Dragon Age.
Stupid side question. If I buy the PEGI version in Germany, that is the international european version, right? (As it is also "refused classification" on the german youth protection scale)
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POLE7645: Well, we don't know what RPG elements will be there. Bioware assured that they would be more present than in Mass Effect 2.

Only time will tell. It's still to early to say anything.
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krakadyla: I agree with "only time will tell", but allow me to guffaw at "Bioware assured". Not that long time ago they also assured the protagonist of Dragon Age 2 was the most important person in that setting. Everything that happened in that game would have happened without the protagonist anyway.

All in all, the mindset "all marketing = bullshit" will serve you better than gullibility.
Curmudgeons, ahoy.
Post edited February 01, 2012 by TrIp13G
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SimonG: Stupid side question. If I buy the PEGI version in Germany, that is the international european version, right? (As it is also "refused classification" on the german youth protection scale)
Yeah PEGI is the normal EU age mark...
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Fred_DM: typical pre-release alarmist BS.

ME 1 and 2 were both fantastic games with a presentation unmatched by most games in the genre, and they are among the most replayable games ever. i must have replayed the original ME 4 times now.

as for the abundant pre-order DLC, it pisses me off but the stuff can usually either be unlocked in alternate ways or simply downloaded off you-know-where.
I wouldn't say either ME 1 or ME 2 were Fantastic games... ME 1 the driving killed it for me, and ME 2 the scanning killed it for me. They were Good Games but nothing near KTOR or BG. They were Good not Great IMHO or Hell even Jade Empire was better than ME 1 and 2
Post edited February 01, 2012 by Arianus
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Siannah: Everything from the escapitst article is clearly pointed out to target new players who haven't played ME1 or 2. They even point it out in the very first paragraph "... to disprove the idea that players can't enjoy a sequel without playing its predecessors."
Not having to have played the predecessors to get everything from the story is hardly dumbing down. Especially when you don't get those additional hints starting with a previous savegame, i.e. you know this stuff.
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StonerMk2: Actually that is. That is the whole and unadulterated reason people are so "up in flames" about Bioware and their recent (last what 4 years?) bullshit. Their targeting audiences they shouldnt give two fucks about. CoD players dont care about a Sci-fi RPG. Their not going to stop playing their rehashed corridor shooter for a goddamn RPG. We saw it with Dragon Age, they are willing to tear the game in every damn direction to target a audience that isnt there, and in doing so alienate the previous target audience. I loved both the first Mass Effect and the first Dragon Age. What did i get with the sequels? Dumbed down pieces of shit. Granted Mass Effect 2 was MILES less shitty then Dragon Age 2 but the point remains they took a excellent Sci-fi RPG with shooter elements and made a goddamn Gears of War in space, with light RPG elements.

But on topic, i lost hope in Mass Effect 3 when the Co-Op shit was announced to justify their Online Pass, and lost even more when it was said that the multiplayer will affect the singleplayer.
You sir have said everything I've ever thought about ME. Thank You!
I'm posting this neither for or against ME3 since I have no opinion on it whatsoever, but I thought this comic was funny and a good-natured dig at RPG advertising in general, not just ME3:

Every Choice Matters!!
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crazy_dave: I'm posting this neither for or against ME3 since I have no opinion on it whatsoever, but I thought this comic was funny and a good-natured dig at RPG advertising in general, not just ME3:

Every Choice Matters!!
Being Shepard can really suck sometimes.
Awesome part about being away from my PC for 2012 is that I will get everything cheap and in bundled collections with the DLC when I catch up in 2013.