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StingingVelvet: Awesome part about being away from my PC for 2012 is that I will get everything cheap and in bundled collections with the DLC when I catch up in 2013.
You mean like that awesome Mass Effect 2 Goty edition?

;-P
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SimonG: You mean like that awesome Mass Effect 2 Goty edition?

;-P
haha, this.

i think Bioware are the first developer who's learned that if you offer GotY editions eventually, some interested gamers are just going to wait for that. so they don't offer GotY editions anymore, effectively forcing you to buy the DLC separately and at full price.

you can't really blame them. when an increasing number of PC gamers buys games only at 75% off during sales, a developer has to make money somewhere else. that's where DLC comes in.
Post edited February 07, 2012 by Fred_DM
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Fred_DM: you can't really blame them. when an increasing number of PC gamers buys games only at 75% off during sales, a developer has to make money somewhere else. that's where DLC comes in.
But I can and will blame them for that BioWare points crap.
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Fred_DM: i think Bioware are the first developer who's learned that if you offer GotY editions eventually, some interested gamers are just going to wait for that. so they don't offer GotY editions anymore, effectively forcing you to buy the DLC separately and at full price.
Dragon age: Ultimate edition tells you that you are full of dragon poop

:)
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bazilisek: But I can and will blame them for that BioWare points crap.
yes, that's the major flaw in their system.

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lukaszthegreat: Dragon age: Ultimate edition tells you that you are full of dragon poop
let me see:

Mass Effect: no GotY
Dragon Age: Origins: Ultimate Ed. (not complete, though!)
Mass Effect 2: no GotY
Dragon Age 2: no GotY

i don't see why you would expect a ME3 GotY.
Post edited February 07, 2012 by Fred_DM
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Fred_DM: Dragon Age: Origins: Ultimate Ed. (not complete, though!)
Oh? what is it missing?

and ME1 didn't really have enough DLC to warrant a release. ME2... maybe they will do one for ME3 as a promotion?
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Fred_DM: Dragon Age: Origins: Ultimate Ed. (not complete, though!)
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lukaszthegreat: Oh? what is it missing?

and ME1 didn't really have enough DLC to warrant a release. ME2... maybe they will do one for ME3 as a promotion?
DAO ultimate ed. is missing the collector's edition content and the exclusive pre-order content from all the stores. They were mainly items and didn't affect the story at all.
The "GOTY" edition of ME2 is the PS3 one which includes all DLC but I doubt they will do one for PC because the DLC has been selling just fine on its own.
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Fred_DM: you can't really blame them. when an increasing number of PC gamers buys games only at 75% off during sales, a developer has to make money somewhere else. that's where DLC comes in.
Which may end up being tantamount to shooting themselves in the foot. It seems an increasing amount of gamers are also starting to look at DLC as either 'cut content', just not worth the price, or as content that demonstrates the game is 'incomplete' at release. And they're passing on DLC until they can get it all in a GotY or Ultimate edition.

If increasing numbers of gamers are waiting for sales, it may be an indicator that their prices are too high.
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Coelocanth: Which may end up being tantamount to shooting themselves in the foot. It seems an increasing amount of gamers are also starting to look at DLC as either 'cut content',
i thought we were way past that now. seriously, that may have been the case early on in this generation, but not now. the kind of DLC that is produced for games like Castlevania, Mass Effect 2 and Fallout: New Vegas can hardly be considered "cut content".

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Coelocanth: just not worth the price,
depends on the DLC, obviously, but DLC in general seems to sell well enough. one thing is for certain: Bioware and Bethesda wouldn't be doing this much DLC (and high-quality DLC at that!) if it didn't sell.

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Coelocanth: or as content that demonstrates the game is 'incomplete' at release.
may be true for some games, but certainly not for Bethesda and Bioware games.

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Coelocanth: And they're passing on DLC until they can get it all in a GotY or Ultimate edition.
or maybe they're not and that's why we're not seeing GotY editions of certain games...?

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Coelocanth: If increasing numbers of gamers are waiting for sales, it may be an indicator that their prices are too high.
yeah well, why would game prices suddenly be too high? they generally haven't increased, with the exception of a few regions/publisher/individual games, while production costs have shot through the roof in the last 10 or so years.
Post edited February 23, 2012 by Fred_DM
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lukaszthegreat: Oh? what is it missing?

and ME1 didn't really have enough DLC to warrant a release. ME2... maybe they will do one for ME3 as a promotion?
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OmegaX: DAO ultimate ed. is missing the collector's edition content and the exclusive pre-order content from all the stores. They were mainly items and didn't affect the story at all.
The "GOTY" edition of ME2 is the PS3 one which includes all DLC but I doubt they will do one for PC because the DLC has been selling just fine on its own.
umm except it's not it's missing 1 or more DLC's
Unfortunately, all the 75% sales and GOTY versions of other games also mean that a portion of the people waiting for Mass Effect GOTY will simply not buy it at all if there is no bundled collection. No idea how numerous they will be, though - possibly a negligible crowd (I will be among them).

But in principle, I agree: If they want more people to buy games at full price, they must not have 75% sales and GOTY versions within a year. It would still take long to change people like me though, because that backlog will last quite a while...

Oh, right, and of course Bioware points. No need to lose any more words on those, I believe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye0Rl16elKo
Yep, when it comes to reasons to hurl a game aside, weird running animations are at the top of the list for any rational person.

Just stop. This is weak as fuck even for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri0vrJ-y2zM
Lately, i've been thinking.. so many post got low repped if they don't sounds favourable to certain group. Like OP first post, he stated his case. Nothing malicious.