wormholewizards: Lately, i've been thinking.. so many post got low repped if they don't sounds favourable to certain group. Like OP first post, he stated his case. Nothing malicious.

jefequeso: Generally it has to do more with HOW something is said, not WHAT is said. If someone were to make a thread titled "not sure how I feel about Mass Effect 3" and list the same information the OP did--so basically the same thread, but without the Chicken Little prophesying--I doubt it would have been down-repped.

jefequeso: Generally it has to do more with HOW something is said, not WHAT is said. If someone were to make a thread titled "not sure how I feel about Mass Effect 3" and list the same information the OP did--so basically the same thread, but without the Chicken Little prophesying--I doubt it would have been down-repped.

jefequeso: Generally it has to do more with HOW something is said, not WHAT is said. If someone were to make a thread titled "not sure how I feel about Mass Effect 3" and list the same information the OP did--so basically the same thread, but without the Chicken Little prophesying--I doubt it would have been down-repped.

Crassmaster: Exactly. the level to which Roman dives in to self aggrandizing obnoxiousness is the reason I downrepped that post.

jefequeso: well, everyone posts stupid stuff from time to time.

...unless this is a regular occurrence, in which case...Roman, you need to adjust your style :P

Crassmaster: It is. AAA game release approaches, Roman starts this up. Or dredges up a thread that has been dead for 2 years. Either way, it's nothing but links to other people's material. Lame.

jefequeso: Cut him some slack. After all, bashing AAA titles is the internet equivalent of bragging about your sexual conquests in the dorm lounge. It flaunts your manhood for all to see!

...or alternatively, Roman is just a wannabe hipster.

Fred_DM: i thought we were way past that now. seriously, that may have been the case early on in this generation, but not now. the kind of DLC that is produced for games like Castlevania, Mass Effect 2 and Fallout: New Vegas can hardly be considered "cut content".

Fred_DM: depends on the DLC, obviously, but DLC in general seems to sell well enough. one thing is for certain: Bioware and Bethesda wouldn't be doing this much DLC (and high-quality DLC at that!) if it didn't sell.

Fred_DM: may be true for some games, but certainly not for Bethesda and Bioware games.

Fred_DM: or maybe they're not and that's why we're not saying GotY editions of certain games...?

Fred_DM: yeah well, why would game prices suddenly be too high? they generally haven't increased, with the exception of a few regions/publisher/individual games, while production costs have shot through the roof in the last 10 or so years.

Tormentfan: DLC, to me, has never been worth the price.. and I've alway, and always will, see it as cut content, or at the very least taking time away from the main game, especially with day 1 DLC.. that IS just a con.

Fred_DM: maybe instead of trying to be stubborn for whatever reason you should try thinking about it in realistic terms...

DLC per se is NOT cut content. why should it be if it's produced AFTER the main game has been completed? are the contents of an expansion pack cut content too? by your logic they would have to be because the only difference between the two is the distribution method.

during the final phase of game development, no new content for the main game is produced. instead it's all about playtesting and bugfixing. what are the designers and graphics artists going to do during that period? they either start working on a new game or on DLC. that's how you get Day 1 DLC.

Fred_DM: yes, that's the major flaw in their system.

Fred_DM: let me see:

Mass Effect: no GotY
Dragon Age: Origins: Ultimate Ed. (not complete, though!)
Mass Effect 2: no GotY
Dragon Age 2: no GotY

i don't see why you would expect a ME3 GotY.

Tormentfan: If there were no other means of padding their profits, I can't help feel that gaming experiences out of the box would be far more satisfying.... I'm sorry, but you'll never convince me it's a good or acceptable thing for consumers.... these descisions are made purely from a profit point of view.. and quality and pure profit speculation never go hand in hand.

Roman5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri0vrJ-y2zM