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wodmarach: Except thats bullshit the games complete just cause he doesn't want to get extras doesn't mean its unfinished *rolls eyes*
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Roman5: Taking out a vital character and part of the story out of the main game to sell it as DLC isn't exactly what I would classify as "Extras"
Let me try shouting to get it into your head this time. HE'S NOT VITAL FFS HE'S AN EXTRA CREW MEMBER AND 2 MISSIONS THAT'S IT!
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PoSSeSSeDCoW: I'd say this is the single most masturbatory thread I've ever seen, but, alas, I've seen the other ones you've made.
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Roman5: Yes, I get such a huge hard-on from all the "Dislikes"
I suspected as much.
Post edited February 29, 2012 by OmegaX
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Roman5: Taking out a vital character and part of the story out of the main game to sell it as DLC isn't exactly what I would classify as "Extras"
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wodmarach: Let me try shouting to get it into your head this time. HE'S NOT VITAL FFS HE'S AN EXTRA CREW MEMBER AND 2 MISSIONS THAT'S IT!
Whatever the case is: It was taken out of the full game to be sold as DLC or "Free" with CE's to sell more of them

This is unacceptable
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Roman5: Whatever the case is: It was taken out of the full game to be sold as DLC or "Free" with CE's to sell more of them

This is unacceptable
You don't know that. Let me rephrase that for you: It's a content finished at the time game goes to stores and I think it's unfair to not include it with every purchase.
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Roman5: Whatever the case is: It was taken out of the full game to be sold as DLC or "Free" with CE's to sell more of them

This is unacceptable
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Fenixp: You don't know that. Let me rephrase that for you: It's a content finished at the time game goes to stores and I think it's unfair to not include it with every purchase.
Well Fenixp, the thing is: I do know that

This content is being "Sold as DLC" before the game is even released, therefore it was made and finished at the same time as the full game but they are taking it out and the fact that it will be available on the sale day that the "Full game" launches

Bioware and EA are basically saying to you: "If you will not buy the collector's edition of the game, you aren't getting the full game"

Which is even worse than ME2's: "If you will not the new version of the game, you aren't getting the full game"

Absolutely Disgusting
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Fenixp: You don't know that. Let me rephrase that for you: It's a content finished at the time game goes to stores and I think it's unfair to not include it with every purchase.
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Roman5: Well Fenixp, the thing is: I do know that

This content is being "Sold as DLC" before the game is even released, therefore it was made and finished at the same time as the full game but they are taking it out and the fact that it will be available on the sale day that the "Full game" launches

Bioware and EA are basically saying to you: "If you will not buy the collector's edition of the game, you aren't getting the full game"

Which is even worse than ME2's: "If you will not the new version of the game, you aren't getting the full game"

Absolutely Disgusting
The game was finished 3-6 months ago the DLC was made during that time, once again I would like to point out the difference between feature lock and gold
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Roman5: Well Fenixp, the thing is: I do know that

This content is being "Sold as DLC" before the game is even released, therefore it was made and finished at the same time as the full game but they are taking it out and the fact that it will be available on the sale day that the "Full game" launches

Bioware and EA are basically saying to you: "If you will not buy the collector's edition of the game, you aren't getting the full game"

Which is even worse than ME2's: "If you will not the new version of the game, you aren't getting the full game"

Absolutely Disgusting
Nope, you don't. You should find out how development works, because it's not that simple. The company is going to be sitting on the finished game for quite some time before actual release, and they can use this time to make DLC. What I do not like is that they refuse to bundle it with the game itself and make it some sort of "awesome special deal," it kind of seems like a poor deal when compared with, say, standard edition of The Witcher 2
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Roman5: Well Fenixp, the thing is: I do know that

This content is being "Sold as DLC" before the game is even released, therefore it was made and finished at the same time as the full game but they are taking it out and the fact that it will be available on the sale day that the "Full game" launches

Bioware and EA are basically saying to you: "If you will not buy the collector's edition of the game, you aren't getting the full game"

Which is even worse than ME2's: "If you will not the new version of the game, you aren't getting the full game"

Absolutely Disgusting
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wodmarach: The game was finished 3-6 months ago the DLC was made during that time, once again I would like to point out the difference between feature lock and gold
Mere facts cannot stop Roman from continuing his crusade to prove to us all what a self obsessed, attention whoring douchebag he truly is! Fight on, brave retard!
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Roman5: Well Fenixp, the thing is: I do know that

This content is being "Sold as DLC" before the game is even released, therefore it was made and finished at the same time as the full game but they are taking it out and the fact that it will be available on the sale day that the "Full game" launches

Bioware and EA are basically saying to you: "If you will not buy the collector's edition of the game, you aren't getting the full game"

Which is even worse than ME2's: "If you will not the new version of the game, you aren't getting the full game"

Absolutely Disgusting
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Fenixp: Nope, you don't. You should find out how development works, because it's not that simple. The company is going to be sitting on the finished game for quite some time before actual release, and they can use this time to make DLC. What I do not like is that they refuse to bundle it with the game itself and make it some sort of "awesome special deal," it kind of seems like a poor deal when compared with, say, standard edition of The Witcher 2
Any content that is developed before the release of the game, should be included with the final release, there is no excuse
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wodmarach: The game was finished 3-6 months ago the DLC was made during that time, once again I would like to point out the difference between feature lock and gold
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Crassmaster: Mere facts cannot stop Roman from continuing his crusade to prove to us all what a self obsessed, attention whoring douchebag he truly is! Fight on, brave retard!
And apparently logical arguments cannot stop you from hating me for no purpose

What I'm doing in this thread (And other threads similar to this one): Is poiting out the Horrendous and Immoral Business practices that EA and Bioware are doing with their game(s)

This is "Attention Whoring" to you? seriously?

So, are you trying to defend EA/Bioware in this situation?
Post edited February 29, 2012 by Roman5
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Fenixp: Nope, you don't. You should find out how development works, because it's not that simple. The company is going to be sitting on the finished game for quite some time before actual release, and they can use this time to make DLC. What I do not like is that they refuse to bundle it with the game itself and make it some sort of "awesome special deal," it kind of seems like a poor deal when compared with, say, standard edition of The Witcher 2
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Roman5: Any content that is developed before the release of the game, should be included with the final release, there is no excuse
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Crassmaster: Mere facts cannot stop Roman from continuing his crusade to prove to us all what a self obsessed, attention whoring douchebag he truly is! Fight on, brave retard!
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Roman5: And apparently logical arguments cannot stop you from hating me for no purpose

What I'm doing in this thread (And other threads similar to this one): Is poiting out the Horrendous and Immoral Business practices that EA and Bioware are doing with their game(s)

This is "Attention Whoring" to you? seriously?

So, are you trying to defend EA/Bioware in this situation?
I'm sorry, but where in the Hell have YOU pointed out or argued ANYTHING?! All that you do is link to something somebody else said and lazily attach a "Ditto!" to it. You've never actually argued anything. You're just posting up other people's opinions and then waiting for the kudos to roll in. Maybe try actually MAKING YOUR OWN FUCKING POINT.

Beyond that, others have already pointed out the way development works. But you don't care, because you'd much rather shake your fist in the air and shout "Look upon my magnificence!"

Game is done. Developers start making extra content. It's ready for launch day. It's made available. And this is evil...how? And no more lazily using someone else's statement, actually try to construct a fucking thought for yourself.

WHY should something be free just because it was developed before release? Did that extra development time somehow magically not cost any money? Once the game is done, the budget for it is done as well.
Post edited February 29, 2012 by Crassmaster
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Roman5: Any content that is developed before the release of the game, should be included with the final release, there is no excuse
Why?
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Roman5: Any content that is developed before the release of the game, should be included with the final release, there is no excuse
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Fenixp: Why?
Oh you know cause they should delay the release by 3-6 months while it's put through the verification process that on disc stuff has to go through
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Roman5: Well Fenixp, the thing is: I do know that

This content is being "Sold as DLC" before the game is even released, therefore it was made and finished at the same time as the full game but they are taking it out and the fact that it will be available on the sale day that the "Full game" launches

Bioware and EA are basically saying to you: "If you will not buy the collector's edition of the game, you aren't getting the full game"

Which is even worse than ME2's: "If you will not the new version of the game, you aren't getting the full game"

Absolutely Disgusting
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wodmarach: The game was finished 3-6 months ago the DLC was made during that time, once again I would like to point out the difference between feature lock and gold
I hate to be a smart-ass by saying this, but the game was delayed 3-6 months ago because Bioware needed more time to work on it. The game could have been delayed for marketing reasons though, which would give them time to make additional content. If the latter is true, then this must be the exact reason for day one DLC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRRpGlmtws8

Prothean DLC confirmed to be all on-disc. Can be accessed by changing 1 line of code
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Roman5: Prothean DLC confirmed to be all on-disc. Can be accessed by changing 1 line of code
Awesome, no need to actually buy it then! :D