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Starkrun: Like a true NORD I recognize the True TIME... this is the time of our forefathers.. the time of Kings...
Did your forefathers spend a lot of time hanging out in gaming forums? :P
It basically was proven that the daylight saving has no energy saving benefit when Kentucky as the last US state introduced it. After the first year the stats showed that energy consumption was up by about 1% even!

And it was introduced to save energy on lamps. In this day and age of Halogen, LED and other energy saving lamps, light is not even a factor when it comes to conserve energy. Moving time around though can lead to a higher energy consumption when people stay up longer in the summer so everything from TV to computers and Air Condition are running longer and with the exception of TV's most of the stuff consumes tons of energy.

And it just disturbs everything. So many people complain about their sleep patterns being interrupted, they feel tired all day (i feel the same after the winter change) and for some it takes several months to get used to it, then the clock changes again. Several medical studies said that it is downright unhealthy.

And the same is true to animals. So many farmers complain that especially the cows have massive problems with the change of when they're milked.

The german government even said a couple years ago theyt they would like to get rid of it but sadly Germany is a country full of idiots and pussies who are too afraid to speak up, so it was said "we only do it when the EU does it" and we all know the EU is run by braindead morons
Last year, I was working night shift when it happened. So yeah, I gained an extra hour...of work. Screw daylight savings time and all those politicians who still support it. Hope they get eaten by Morlocks.
Daylight Saving Time. No terminal "s". It's nothing to do with banks. :)
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ShadowAngel.207: And the same is true to animals. So many farmers complain that especially the cows have massive problems with the change of when they're milked.
Midwest guy here... I was serious about the "clock doesn't matter" a real farmer knows you work with the livestock, the land, the clock really doesn't matter. Unless its a run day (delivery's) or your farm is getting a shipment they always went off the animals que's

But I know this is true, some cant just exist; they need rigidity in there daily routines :(

Sometimes i wonder how life would have been if i grabbed the keys to the tractor instead of the car . . .
Post edited November 06, 2016 by Starkrun
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ShadowAngel.207: And the same is true to animals. So many farmers complain that especially the cows have massive problems with the change of when they're milked.
Since I am not a farmer, this is something I don't quite get. Why would the farmers care about the clock? Is there some universal law that every farmer shall milk their cows 5am, without exceptions? Can't they decide it themselves when they milk their cows (or the cows maybe decide it for them)?

And is it only about milking cows, or does it somehow interfere when they have to feed the chickens or come back from the cornfields?

EDIT: Ok I guess I got some kind of answer above...

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ShadowAngel.207: The german government even said a couple years ago theyt they would like to get rid of it but sadly Germany is a country full of idiots and pussies who are too afraid to speak up, so it was said "we only do it when the EU does it" and we all know the EU is run by braindead morons
I think there is an EU directive that requires every EU member state to abide to this time shifting foolishness. So in that sense yes, the whole EU has to abolish it, not just one EU member state. Or at least the directive should be abolished and I guess every country could decide themselves whether or not to use it. I guess it would be simpler that all follow the same rule though.

I'm glad though if the sentiments in Germany are generally against "time shifting".

And I keep repeating: this is more about the shifting of the clocks twice a year, than in what exact timezone(s) the countries decide to stay. If EU countries e.g. decide to advance clock by three hours for the whole year, fine I guess even though I'd find it odd that sun would be at the highest point around 3pm and not 12am. And the darkest hour of the night would be 3am and not 12pm. Even for that I think people should just go to work, school etc. earlier, if it is so beneficial to have more light hours in the evening. Go to school at 4am and get back home at noon over the whole year, ok then.
Post edited November 06, 2016 by timppu
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Starkrun: Like a true NORD I recognize the True TIME... this is the time of our forefathers.. the time of Kings...
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tinyE: Did your forefathers spend a lot of time hanging out in gaming forums? :P
My forefathers, the Vikings, had a vast international network of trade, or an InterNet, if you will, which also is the name of what we use to spend all our time on gaming forums. I am fairly certain that they did communicate about games at times, and though I don't have very precise data on the matter, it seems possible that those involved in said network may have communicated about games with non-Vikings as well.
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tinyE: Did your forefathers spend a lot of time hanging out in gaming forums? :P
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Maighstir: My forefathers, the Vikings, had a vast international network of trade, or an InterNet, if you will, which also is the name of what we use to spend all our time on gaming forums. I am fairly certain that they did communicate about games at times, and though I don't have very precise data on the matter, it seems possible that those involved in said network may have communicated about games with non-Vikings as well.
Your ancestors are currently losing to my Detroit Lions 3-0. :P

Shit, 3-3.

Your ancestors just tied it.
Post edited November 06, 2016 by tinyE
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timppu: And is it only about milking cows, or does it somehow interfere when they have to feed the chickens or come back from the cornfields?
I am mildly annoyed that you didn't type "plow" instead of "come back from the cornfields".

I read "... milking cows... feed the chickens..." and then automatically replaced the paragraph with "At 4:30 in the morning I'm milkin' cows, Jebediah feeds the chickens and Jacob plows, fool".
So, starting at 1:45 AM and ending at 1:15 AM (on the same night), what were you doing?

Note that times from 1:00 AM up until (but not including) 2:00 AM are ambiguous when daylight savings time ends.

Python has actually had to include a way to disambiguate such times Of course, the real solution is to use UTC internally. (Linux and Mac OS X treat the hardware clock as UTC, which avoids this sort of problem, but Windows interprets it as local time (unless you change a registry key), which can cause problems.)
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Breja: It's the exact opposite with me. What I hate is the day being an hour shorter.
It's not an hour shorter. It's exactly the same length is it would be if the clocks weren't changed.
It should have been shit canned a long time ago.

If they had any sense, they'd split the difference & keep the time at that.
Daylight savings time reminds me of PB from this video. It's a ludicrously convoluted solution to a trivial problem.

[spoiler]
PB: "I hope muffins aren't easy to make, or I'm being an idiot."
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So, how do you all feel about leap year? ;P
I was mainly surprised to hear other countries had it. I assumed it was a U.S.-only thing for some reason.
Can't say I mind it all that much, though.