Posted January 12, 2016
LeonardoCornejo
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Djaron
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Posted January 13, 2016
LeonardoCornejo: The damaging trend of microtransactions on non free to play games.
https://youtu.be/yUd0vxTsGwo
it's only damaging to both the gullible gamers who fall for it AND to the publishers to dare to push such tricks... https://youtu.be/yUd0vxTsGwo
i can understand micro transaction as being a possible and easy economic model for a F2P but for paid games, who would also get day 1 "on the disc/preorder" dlcs and even seasons pass... it's way too much
Klumpen0815
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Posted January 13, 2016
Sorry to make a small sidestep to one of the secondary topics, but I just had to share this:
What a true feminist looks like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMnAmRa4NYw&feature=youtu.be&t=2m20s
Woah, what a woman!
That's some strong personality and courage right there.
What a true feminist looks like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMnAmRa4NYw&feature=youtu.be&t=2m20s
Woah, what a woman!
That's some strong personality and courage right there.
Post edited January 13, 2016 by Klumpen0815
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Posted January 13, 2016
low rated
One would think you'd be more sympathetic towards women who were sentenced to 26 years in prison over blasphemy.
She's being scolded by the authority that has the power to do literally anything to her. And sure as hell tried to exercise that power.
You wouldn't just cry in the same situation, you'd piss your manly pants as well.
You want change in the way religious fundamentalists treat women? These are the kind of women that bring the change.
I've actually been mulling over the question what insight into these countries' culture you actually do have, but I now have a definite answer, thanks.
Well, I guess he maybe just tried to make a point in "true" vs. "fake" feminism, and I interpreted it as mockery as I didn't think of him as such a bigoted guy. A mere mockery of a woman who cries on national TV ("that's some strong personality and courage right there"). Feminism fights against oppression regardless of source – be it religion, tradition or government; and regardless of country – be it Afghanistan, the US, or Germany. Klumpen is unable to understand how in all these countries, that is a necessary fight, and in exactly the same context, he argues for it to happen. I guess according to him, there are no 'true feminists' demonstrating against sexual assault in Germany right now. *sigh*
I never gave that impression, no.
She's being scolded by the authority that has the power to do literally anything to her. And sure as hell tried to exercise that power.
You wouldn't just cry in the same situation, you'd piss your manly pants as well.
You want change in the way religious fundamentalists treat women? These are the kind of women that bring the change.
I've actually been mulling over the question what insight into these countries' culture you actually do have, but I now have a definite answer, thanks.
Well, I guess he maybe just tried to make a point in "true" vs. "fake" feminism, and I interpreted it as mockery as I didn't think of him as such a bigoted guy. A mere mockery of a woman who cries on national TV ("that's some strong personality and courage right there"). Feminism fights against oppression regardless of source – be it religion, tradition or government; and regardless of country – be it Afghanistan, the US, or Germany. Klumpen is unable to understand how in all these countries, that is a necessary fight, and in exactly the same context, he argues for it to happen. I guess according to him, there are no 'true feminists' demonstrating against sexual assault in Germany right now. *sigh*
I never gave that impression, no.
Post edited January 13, 2016 by Vainamoinen
Emob78
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Posted January 13, 2016
Vainamoinen: One would think you'd be more sympathetic towards women who were sentenced to 26 years in prison over blasphemy.
She's being scolded by the authority that has the power to do literally anything to her. And sure as hell tried to exercise that power.
You wouldn't just cry in the same situation, you'd piss your manly pants as well.
You want change in the way religious fundamentalists treat women? These are the kind of women that bring the change.
I've actually been mulling over the question what insight into these countries' culture you actually do have, but I now have a definite answer, thanks.
I'm a bit confused here. Klumpen just commended a woman for standing up to religious oppression, and you accuse him of being unsympathetic towards women. Are you taking the piss or what?She's being scolded by the authority that has the power to do literally anything to her. And sure as hell tried to exercise that power.
You wouldn't just cry in the same situation, you'd piss your manly pants as well.
You want change in the way religious fundamentalists treat women? These are the kind of women that bring the change.
I've actually been mulling over the question what insight into these countries' culture you actually do have, but I now have a definite answer, thanks.
Djaron
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Posted January 13, 2016
Klumpen0815: Sorry to make a small sidestep to one of the secondary topics, but I just had to share this:
What a true feminist looks like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMnAmRa4NYw&feature=youtu.be&t=2m20s
Woah, what a woman!
That's some strong personality and courage right there.
wooow... 12th century obscurantism meets present time and common sense packed up right to the face What a true feminist looks like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMnAmRa4NYw&feature=youtu.be&t=2m20s
Woah, what a woman!
That's some strong personality and courage right there.
thank you for the link
here in my country because of recent events we had this twisted side effect that even hideously radical religious view/opinion of said religion suddenly became acceptable for the only sake of not wielding an ak'è and thus should be then considered as "moderate" (and so, endorsable) by sheer magic of absurd contrast.
Djaron
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Posted January 13, 2016
Vainamoinen: Well, I guess he maybe just tried to make a point in "true" vs. "fake" feminism, and I interpreted it as mockery as I didn't think of him as such a bigoted guy. A mere mockery of a woman who cries on national TV ("that's some strong personality and courage right there"). Feminism fights against oppression regardless of source – be it religion, tradition or government; and regardless of country – be it Afghanistan, the US, or Germany. Klumpen is unable to understand how in all these countries, that is a necessary fight, and in exactly the same context, he argues for it to happen. I guess according to him, there are no 'true feminists' demonstrating against sexual assault in Germany right now. *sigh*
sorry, i am asking because i fear i would misunderstand your point... are you saying each and every feminism fight is equal in importance and magnitude and should be viewed at the same level ? like "women figthing in their darkages ruled country for the right of not wearing a whole bag on their body, for the right of not being beaten up, jailed 25 years for ludacris reasons, tortured and beheaded to the least extent" is neither more or less important than in a western country, fighting against rape (needless to say, rape is still a crime in most countries, mind you, and law already have penalties meant for it) or "the fight in job not to suffer lesser wages and rude/stupid male coworkers jokes" or the right for women to trade sexual favor in exchange for advantages over competition in any professional context either ?
if this is not what you meant then ok, fine; as i said, i was afraid of misunderstanding something here.
if it was your point though, i find such lack of prioritization rather puzzling and dangerous to say the least, for many reasons... (and disrecpectful for the victims of the most severe outcomes)
Shadowstalker16
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Posted January 13, 2016
Ah Vain you is back. Are you interested in picking up where you left off in our previous conversation?
Also, for a person criticizing someone's ''bigoted'' understanding of other countries laws, your post seems very prejudiced itself. I'm not interested in saying any more, other than the fact that, AFAIK Saudi Arabia and Iran are the only countries where they appoint clerics as judges in courts and have as you say ''power to do literally anything to her''.
Also, for a person criticizing someone's ''bigoted'' understanding of other countries laws, your post seems very prejudiced itself. I'm not interested in saying any more, other than the fact that, AFAIK Saudi Arabia and Iran are the only countries where they appoint clerics as judges in courts and have as you say ''power to do literally anything to her''.
Post edited January 13, 2016 by Shadowstalker16
Klumpen0815
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Posted January 13, 2016
I didn't really comprehend how Vaina tried to twist my applause for this woman against me, but yes, I applaud all women that do anything to stand up against real (as in not made up) patriarchy, because it's the right thing to do and they risk their lives (which they don't here if they're not part of a muslim family).
Of course the inherent misogyny in some parts of local culture (like in Karneval and Oktoberfest in certain cities in south- and southwest Germany) is bad and should end, but how twisted do you have to be to for the sake of some petty verbal battle on the internet immideately compare it to the problems of woman in cultures where they often/mostly (depending on country) lose their life if they speak up either by state, the family or by the IS?!
You just can't make some people happy, not that it was my goal, he's as destructive as ever.
Somehow Vaina often reminds me of Monty Python's Life of Brian:
Of course the inherent misogyny in some parts of local culture (like in Karneval and Oktoberfest in certain cities in south- and southwest Germany) is bad and should end, but how twisted do you have to be to for the sake of some petty verbal battle on the internet immideately compare it to the problems of woman in cultures where they often/mostly (depending on country) lose their life if they speak up either by state, the family or by the IS?!
You just can't make some people happy, not that it was my goal, he's as destructive as ever.
Somehow Vaina often reminds me of Monty Python's Life of Brian:
Reg: Right. You're in. Listen. The only people we hate more than the Romans are the fucking Judean People's Front.
Stan: Yeah, the Judean People's Front.
Reg: Yeah. Splitters.
Stan: And the Popular Front of Judea.
Reg: Yeah. Splitters.
Stan: And the People's Front of Judea.
Reg: Yea... what?
Stan: The People's Front of Judea. Splitters.
Reg: We're the People's Front of Judea!
Stan: Oh. I thought we were the Popular Front.
Reg: People's Front!
Francis: Whatever happened to the Popular Front, Reg?
Reg: He's over there. [points to a lone man]
Reg, Stan, Francis, Judith: SPLITTER!
Stan: Yeah, the Judean People's Front.
Reg: Yeah. Splitters.
Stan: And the Popular Front of Judea.
Reg: Yeah. Splitters.
Stan: And the People's Front of Judea.
Reg: Yea... what?
Stan: The People's Front of Judea. Splitters.
Reg: We're the People's Front of Judea!
Stan: Oh. I thought we were the Popular Front.
Reg: People's Front!
Francis: Whatever happened to the Popular Front, Reg?
Reg: He's over there. [points to a lone man]
Reg, Stan, Francis, Judith: SPLITTER!
Post edited January 13, 2016 by Klumpen0815
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Posted January 13, 2016
Klumpen0815: ...
Of course the inherent misogyny in some parts of local culture (like in Karneval and Oktoberfest in certain cities in south- and southwest Germany) is bad and should end, but how twisted do you have to be to for the sake of some petty verbal battle on the internet immideately compare it to the problems of woman in cultures where they often/mostly (depending on country) lose their life if they speak up either by state, the family or by the IS?!
,,,
Damn you are right, two of the biggest festivals in Germany, millions of people having a party over several days. Girls/Men get dressed up sexy costumes/fancy clothing drinking lots of alcohol. This can't be as their inhibitions will lowered by being drunk. We should ban alcohol, that would be best. And this sexy clothing that could arouse men, nah, wait there is something already in place in some countries in the middle east: Burkas. Well let's have an Oktoberfest/ a Karneval without alcohol and sexy clothing. Of course the inherent misogyny in some parts of local culture (like in Karneval and Oktoberfest in certain cities in south- and southwest Germany) is bad and should end, but how twisted do you have to be to for the sake of some petty verbal battle on the internet immideately compare it to the problems of woman in cultures where they often/mostly (depending on country) lose their life if they speak up either by state, the family or by the IS?!
,,,
If you think this whole stuff to the end, we will end genders and hello Brave New World, Alphas, Betas and Gammas...
PS I could not tell if you are being ironic :).
Post edited January 13, 2016 by MaGo72
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Posted January 13, 2016
As so often only in part.
Some of the rituals are a bit disturbing indeed and since Vaina knows the area obviously pretty well, I guess there's some trauma around.
Have you ever seen one of those "Karvelvalssitzungen" where extremely old men in silly hats are watching really young girls (around 16/17) performing a "dance" that mostly consists of revealing your ass and crotch by kicking up your leg repeatedly as high as you can in unison with the other girls? There's some weird kink going on in such rituals although they are usually not erotic for a more or less healthy mind.
Oktoberfest has a rape problem from what I gathered. They got extra forces for the psychological treatment afterwards prepared for this event as it seems, although this may be due to the massive tourism influx of it. There are various ways for the girls to wear the traditional "Tracht" in order to symbolize if their married, taken or searching for example from what I understood. Those southern traditions are all weird to me and I guess most visitors don't have a clue about them at all.
When it comes to drinking and whoring around (not gender specific):
Both is definitely not my cup of tea, but I'm not bothered by this up here in the northeastern parts anyway, at least not tied to any weird "cultural" events, I guess I'd be a "Karnevalsflüchtling" if I had to live there.
Some of the rituals are a bit disturbing indeed and since Vaina knows the area obviously pretty well, I guess there's some trauma around.
Have you ever seen one of those "Karvelvalssitzungen" where extremely old men in silly hats are watching really young girls (around 16/17) performing a "dance" that mostly consists of revealing your ass and crotch by kicking up your leg repeatedly as high as you can in unison with the other girls? There's some weird kink going on in such rituals although they are usually not erotic for a more or less healthy mind.
Oktoberfest has a rape problem from what I gathered. They got extra forces for the psychological treatment afterwards prepared for this event as it seems, although this may be due to the massive tourism influx of it. There are various ways for the girls to wear the traditional "Tracht" in order to symbolize if their married, taken or searching for example from what I understood. Those southern traditions are all weird to me and I guess most visitors don't have a clue about them at all.
When it comes to drinking and whoring around (not gender specific):
Both is definitely not my cup of tea, but I'm not bothered by this up here in the northeastern parts anyway, at least not tied to any weird "cultural" events, I guess I'd be a "Karnevalsflüchtling" if I had to live there.
Post edited January 13, 2016 by Klumpen0815
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Posted January 13, 2016
Klumpen0815: As so often only in part.
Some of the rituals are a bit disturbing indeed and since Vaina is from the area, I guess there's some trauma around.
Have you ever seen one of those "Karvelvalssitzungen" where extremely old men in silly hats are watching really young girls (around 16/17) performing a "dance" that mostly consists of revealing your ass and crotch by kicking up your leg repeatedly as high as you can in unison with the other girls? There's some weird kink going on in such rituals although they are usually not erotic for a more or less healthy mind.
Oktoberfest has a rape problem from what I gathered. They got extra forces for the psychological treatment afterwards prepared for this event as it seems, although this may be due to the massive tourism influx of it, since there are various ways for the girls to wear the traditional "Tracht" in order to symbolize if their married, taken or searching for example from what I understood. Those southern traditions are all weird to me.
When it comes to drinking and whoring around (not gender specific):
Both is definitely not my cup of tea, but I'm not bothered but this up here in the northeastern parts anyway, so whatever.
My guess is, you see only old people there because younger people do not care about Karnevalssitzungen, they are in clubs, bars on the streets. I guess that custom will die out, only our broadcasting stations ARD/ZDF are holding that custom up with how many Karnevalssitzungen? 1, 2 with some hundred people? I do not live there so I do not know. Some of the rituals are a bit disturbing indeed and since Vaina is from the area, I guess there's some trauma around.
Have you ever seen one of those "Karvelvalssitzungen" where extremely old men in silly hats are watching really young girls (around 16/17) performing a "dance" that mostly consists of revealing your ass and crotch by kicking up your leg repeatedly as high as you can in unison with the other girls? There's some weird kink going on in such rituals although they are usually not erotic for a more or less healthy mind.
Oktoberfest has a rape problem from what I gathered. They got extra forces for the psychological treatment afterwards prepared for this event as it seems, although this may be due to the massive tourism influx of it, since there are various ways for the girls to wear the traditional "Tracht" in order to symbolize if their married, taken or searching for example from what I understood. Those southern traditions are all weird to me.
When it comes to drinking and whoring around (not gender specific):
Both is definitely not my cup of tea, but I'm not bothered but this up here in the northeastern parts anyway, so whatever.
Looking at the Oktoberfest, there are about 6 million people and the numbers of rapes circulating(thanks to our two German feminist Anita clones) around at the moment have been debunked by the police, they are from a TAZ article from 2009 without a source. Sure, there will be a higher rate, but what do you expect with some millions of people shooting the shit?
Klumpen0815
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Posted January 13, 2016
MaGo72: My guess is, you see only old people there because younger people do not care about Karnevalssitzungen, they are in clubs, bars on the streets. I guess that custom will die out, only our broadcasting stations ARD/ZDF are holding that custom up with how many Karnevalssitzungen? 1, 2 with some hundred people? I do not live there so I do not know.
I'm usually the one keeping traditions alive, but this one can just die out and I wouldn't shed a tear for sure. It's just a disgrace. MaGo72: Looking at the Oktoberfest, there are about 6 million people and the numbers of rapes circulating(thanks to our two German feminist Anita clones) around at the moment have been debunked by the police, they are from a TAZ article from 2009 without a source. Sure, there will be a higher rate, but what do you expect with some millions of people shooting the shit?
Yes, if you look at the ratio between the sheer mass of severely drunk humans and sexual assaults, it's actually a miracle that the numbers aren't higher, I still wonder why stuff like this happens at all at an even which is supposed to be more or less organized. Granted, you can't properly organize so many people anyway, but I'm not a fan of "drinking culture" in general, so my view on this may be special. Heck, it's the thing I seem to have in common with my probably most avid downrepper, maybe I should consider this a warning to not become too bitter and humourless in spite of my lack of alcohol. ;)
Post edited January 13, 2016 by Klumpen0815
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Posted January 13, 2016
MaGo72: My guess is, you see only old people there because younger people do not care about Karnevalssitzungen, they are in clubs, bars on the streets. I guess that custom will die out, only our broadcasting stations ARD/ZDF are holding that custom up with how many Karnevalssitzungen? 1, 2 with some hundred people? I do not live there so I do not know.
Klumpen0815: I'm usually the one keeping traditions alive, but this one can just die out and I wouldn't shed a tear for sure. It's just a disgrace. MaGo72: Looking at the Oktoberfest, there are about 6 million people and the numbers of rapes circulating(thanks to our two German feminist Anita clones) around at the moment have been debunked by the police, they are from a TAZ article from 2009 without a source. Sure, there will be a higher rate, but what do you expect with some millions of people shooting the shit?
Klumpen0815: Anita said anything about this? I didn't even know that and hoped nobody would care for this fraud anymore. Yes, if you look at the ratio between the sheer mass of severely drunk humans and sexual assaults, it's actually a miracle that the numbers aren't higher, I still wonder why stuff like this happens at all at an even which is supposed to be more or less organized. Granted, you can't properly organize so many people anyway, but I'm not a fan of "drinking culture" in general, so my view on this may be special.
"Der Feministin Anne Wizorek zufolge liegt die Dunkelziffer der Vergewaltigungen auf dem Münchner Oktoberfest bei etwa 200."(debunked number)
http://www.sueddeutsche.de/muenchen/sexuelle-uebergriffe-der-weite-weg-von-koeln-zum-oktoberfest-1.2813464
Post edited January 13, 2016 by MaGo72
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Posted January 13, 2016
Yeah sorry, I corrected myself after noticing that you wrote "clones". I need sleep.