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YaTEdiGo: The Logic of these times is seriously damaged.

SJWs Twitter accounts saying that is bigoted to blame patriarchal religions for the rapings in Cologne, but they do not hesitate to show the World what a BIG problem is to have women in Bikini in videogames, and of course the whole people in Gamergate is a problem, ahahahahahahahahaha #SJWlogic

Well, I would not be surprised after people like Mcintosh excusing the dangers of OFFEND Islam by Charlie Hebdo.
Indeed. The thing that happened in Cologne really had a big impact in me. One of my cousins lives in Germany, she married a local guy and ever since the immigrants came arround I have been worried by their safety. It is not racism or xenophobia to state that there is something wrong with those "refugees". And I felt distrust toward them long before the Cologne attacks. I have never liked religions that much, in particular not religions that set their traditions as constitutional laws, and Islam is one of the worst offenders at that with their Sharia law.

Putin was right by refusing to adapt Russia for minorities.
#JeSuisMilo:
Trending on twitter because he got unverified. I kinda hate him, but dayum, this is the worst way to silence him. Good going SJWs, now you literally made a right wing journalist the no. one topic to talk about on twitter. This literally fabulously blew up in your face. I'd say good luck dealing with it, but don't.
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YaTEdiGo: The Logic of these times is seriously damaged.

SJWs Twitter accounts saying that is bigoted to blame patriarchal religions for the rapings in Cologne, but they do not hesitate to show the World what a BIG problem is to have women in Bikini in videogames, and of course the whole people in Gamergate is a problem, ahahahahahahahahaha #SJWlogic

Well, I would not be surprised after people like Mcintosh excusing the dangers of OFFEND Islam by Charlie Hebdo.
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LeonardoCornejo: Indeed. The thing that happened in Cologne really had a big impact in me. One of my cousins lives in Germany, she married a local guy and ever since the immigrants came arround I have been worried by their safety. It is not racism or xenophobia to state that there is something wrong with those "refugees". And I felt distrust toward them long before the Cologne attacks. I have never liked religions that much, in particular not religions that set their traditions as constitutional laws, and Islam is one of the worst offenders at that with their Sharia law.

Putin was right by refusing to adapt Russia for minorities.
Is a must to help people in necessity, is a must to embrace refugees, and more to try them to adapt to your society, most part of the people is not bad, but what is REALLY SAD to see that the same people that condemn a whole community, (And if you are not in their side you know they will point you like angry religious advocates with the finger in the social networks) like the gamer one, or the pop culture, or well know atheists to be "white and patriarchal", making everyone there a potential harasser and a patriarchal white devil, but then to defend every single Muslim that came from Middle East, expressing that is clearly a victim of our Imperialism, and of course of some bad influences, as Pop Culture is DEVILISH and need to be controlled, but the Quran is a misunderstood book, is a book of Peace...

I guess I do not need to quote the Quran to know how false is this. But hey! GTA, Pinup Shirts, and Manaras Spiderwoman cause the end of the World...
Post edited January 09, 2016 by YaTEdiGo
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Shadowstalker16: #JeSuisMilo:
Trending on twitter because he got unverified. I kinda hate him, but dayum, this is the worst way to silence him. Good going SJWs, now you literally made a right wing journalist the no. one topic to talk about on twitter. This literally fabulously blew up in your face. I'd say good luck dealing with it, but don't.
Milo is a stupid Attention Whore, with some repugnant ideas, and some other fucking big truths in hand, I cannot barely read any of his craps on Twitter, I tried, but I cant. But at least he has something, he is HONEST, compared with Sarkesiaan or with Macintosh the gap is simply HUGE between them.

Milo is a monster created by SJWs, they are absolutely responsible for him. Is Newton third law applied to the SJW STUPIDITY - "every force has an equal and opposite reaction" and in this case, as equally stupid.
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WBGhiro: Probably
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Shadowstalker16: Dayum. I thought it really didn't matter. I thought links were account age based, and not rep based.

I didn't even say stuff that ''offensive'' lately as well. I didn't lie about stuff, didn't force anyone into anything, still I got a forum privilege withdrawn. WTH.
"Everything is offensive" :) (A.S. tribute)

on a strict therorically logic: any given thing has a statistical chance of being offensive to someone, somewhere, for whatever reason :)
problem is, nowadays, even many genuine or harmless things become labelled offensive whenever a large enough group of people decide so.
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Shadowstalker16: Dayum. I thought it really didn't matter. I thought links were account age based, and not rep based.

I didn't even say stuff that ''offensive'' lately as well. I didn't lie about stuff, didn't force anyone into anything, still I got a forum privilege withdrawn. WTH.
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Djaron: "Everything is offensive" :) (A.S. tribute)

on a strict therorically logic: any given thing has a statistical chance of being offensive to someone, somewhere, for whatever reason :)
problem is, nowadays, even many genuine or harmless things become labelled offensive whenever a large enough group of people decide so.
And over social media, where they think they're showing off and do stuff without thinking of the consequences, surrounded by like minded friends.
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YaTEdiGo: The Logic of these times is seriously damaged.

SJWs Twitter accounts saying that is bigoted to blame patriarchal religions for the rapings in Cologne, but they do not hesitate to show the World what a BIG problem is to have women in Bikini in videogames, and of course the whole people in Gamergate is a problem, ahahahahahahahahaha #SJWlogic

Well, I would not be surprised after people like Mcintosh excusing the dangers of OFFEND Islam by Charlie Hebdo.
well it's an interesting point you are making here...

if i want to apply sophism and cynical absurd logic, i could say:
IRL girl in bikini = obscene offensive porn (according to radical integrist muslims... and even less radical ones) = punishable/bad thing (usually by stoning or something)
Videogame girl in bikini = same as above for SJW, only the stoning punishment stays in "digital online" form yet (and maybe some harassement, doxing, abusive court suing or whatever for a YET minority of cases)

seems radical muslims and sjw have much in common in their ways and reasoning, as in the way of "bullying" (understatement for one of the two mentioned groups) whoever don't 100% comply to their own ways and customs.
what struck me in my country in the past months of media exposing and talking about ISI propaganda and manifesto was how much the rethoric and the thinking clockworking of ISIS so much reminded me of SJW speech even if on different matter. And i told to myself i was glad that the later faction didnt "yet" resort on weapons assault and bombing.

to get back on cologne problem, i think this (and other stuff) is a much more serious and urgent matter to attend, for anyone (especially for said group claiming to defend women) than pixelated/3D CGI depiction of bikini girls. Problem is that it is a complex matter and most SJW's brain would BSOD-error fast because they would at first glance be prone to say "rapists were among the refugees ergo refugees are all rapists, they are the problem !" but a drop of common sense obviously makes anyone thinking you cant label/mark one full group for the action of a minor part of it.
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YaTEdiGo: The Logic of these times is seriously damaged.

SJWs Twitter accounts saying that is bigoted to blame patriarchal religions for the rapings in Cologne, but they do not hesitate to show the World what a BIG problem is to have women in Bikini in videogames, and of course the whole people in Gamergate is a problem, ahahahahahahahahaha #SJWlogic

Well, I would not be surprised after people like Mcintosh excusing the dangers of OFFEND Islam by Charlie Hebdo.
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LeonardoCornejo: Indeed. The thing that happened in Cologne really had a big impact in me. One of my cousins lives in Germany, she married a local guy and ever since the immigrants came arround I have been worried by their safety. It is not racism or xenophobia to state that there is something wrong with those "refugees". And I felt distrust toward them long before the Cologne attacks. I have never liked religions that much, in particular not religions that set their traditions as constitutional laws, and Islam is one of the worst offenders at that with their Sharia law.

Putin was right by refusing to adapt Russia for minorities.
problem of most if not all religions is that they are in a frozen state from a centuries ago era and refuse to evolve according to time passing...
life and world is not as it was in the dark ages... it's a sad thing to see a minor part of dangerous and/or vocal so-called representative of those religions to insist on making us timetravelling backward in their 14th century mind or so...

i can understand your worry and concern about your relative living in germany (it is a legitimate reflex), but keep in mind that most of the refugees are not radical integrist rapist djyhadists of sort. most were people like you or me, even with casual jog or high study level job or so... they fled a country where they were threatened of bombing, killing or pillaging by the hand of both their governement and isis on daily basis... for "most" of them, you have to consider them as people who had to leave everything (job, home, etc) with nothing but what they could carry, and who arrive in any european cpuntry where they do not know the language at all, where they are yet unable and unauthorized to settle, get back to work and sheltering their family.
and i want to think that most of them have way more urgent problems in mind than finding a german woman to rape for the night.

i may sound like a naive idealistic jerk, i know. i always had silent and self-interior concern for victims or refugees of wars. Playing a game like "this war of mine" though made me realise even deeper how much some people even nowadays have to go through before resorting on either dying or fleeing away... only then to be judged with suspicion and defiance by people like me who lives in rather relative safety and healthy level of life...

we had a bunch of refugees family brought in our small village by our mayor too... of course at the very first "unusual" incident (which in fact was caused by local brats) all the elders went screaming to village hall against them... i mean old folks who had known and endured ww2 and german occupation, for god sake. of any persons, they should be the first to be able to know what those people may had endured before leaving.
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Djaron: snip
Having been a refugee myself once upon a time, I'm not disaggreeing with you at all.
The problem isn't refugees though, the problem is immigrants posing as refugees and those seem to be the majority by now with 70% of them being men and having been indoctrinated with stuff like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ7u3sbqY9U
Post edited January 09, 2016 by Klumpen0815
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Djaron: snip
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Klumpen0815: Having been a refugee myself once upon a time, I'm not disaggreeing with you at all.
The problem isn't refugees though, the problem is immigrants posing as refugees and those seem to be the majority by now with 70% of them being men and having been indoctrinated with stuff like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ7u3sbqY9U
the problem is: how do you sort out immigrant from refugees in a whole crowd at mere glance ? i dunno, it sounds hard to achieve withh accuracy
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LeonardoCornejo: Putin was right by refusing to adapt Russia for minorities.
You are wrong here.
Russia is a house for almost 200 nationalities with different beliefs.
With slavic group being predominant major, it's safe to say that more than 170 of them are minorities.
Muslim part is pretty big - we still have a shard of Chengiz Han empire integrated into country, they are 5-7% of population.
Thing is, Russians know how to deal with minorities for mutual benefits, unlike Europeans. This comes from different historical paths:
When we came to Siberia, to survive there we needed to trade and learn traditions, healing herbs, equipment...
When we came to praires, to survive there we needed to trade and learn traditions, healing herbs, equipment...
Same with mountains, seas, swamps...
Evolution of Europe, being in more or less the same temperature belt, resulted in people coming to new territories with the same animals, herbs, trees, temperatures... To survive europeans needed better weapon, than local population had, and that's all.

As a result, if you read about Russian history, you wouldn't be able to find big problems over religion or nationality. (some did happen, humans are humans, xenophobic by nature)

This tolerance was further improved by communists, which worked on creation of "soviet nation". Like, I know that my heritage consists of Polish blood, Ukrainian blood, Belorussian blood, Russian... Overall, I don't care about proportions. I grew up in Siberia, settled with minorities.
I learned their sacred places, I had book of their fairy tales for kids (you know, which teach kids important stuff, like when you need to cut your leg to feed family, not villy-nilly Disney stuff) , they, on the other hand, enjoyed electricity, hot water, satellite maps and many other things civilization gives.
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LeonardoCornejo: Putin was right by refusing to adapt Russia for minorities.
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Gremlion: You are wrong here.
Russia is a house for almost 200 nationalities with different beliefs.
With slavic group being predominant major, it's safe to say that more than 170 of them are minorities.
Muslim part is pretty big - we still have a shard of Chengiz Han empire integrated into country, they are 5-7% of population.
Thing is, Russians know how to deal with minorities for mutual benefits, unlike Europeans. This comes from different historical paths:
When we came to Siberia, to survive there we needed to trade and learn traditions, healing herbs, equipment...
When we came to praires, to survive there we needed to trade and learn traditions, healing herbs, equipment...
Same with mountains, seas, swamps...
Evolution of Europe, being in more or less the same temperature belt, resulted in people coming to new territories with the same animals, herbs, trees, temperatures... To survive europeans needed better weapon, than local population had, and that's all.

As a result, if you read about Russian history, you wouldn't be able to find big problems over religion or nationality. (some did happen, humans are humans, xenophobic by nature)

This tolerance was further improved by communists, which worked on creation of "soviet nation". Like, I know that my heritage consists of Polish blood, Ukrainian blood, Belorussian blood, Russian... Overall, I don't care about proportions. I grew up in Siberia, settled with minorities.
I learned their sacred places, I had book of their fairy tales for kids (you know, which teach kids important stuff, like when you need to cut your leg to feed family, not villy-nilly Disney stuff) , they, on the other hand, enjoyed electricity, hot water, satellite maps and many other things civilization gives.
Interesting information. But I was refering to Putin's speech about not adopting Sharia law for the sake of refugees.
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LeonardoCornejo: Interesting information. But I was refering to Putin's speech about not adopting Sharia law for the sake of refugees.
well i dunno about putin, if he is right or wrong, or i acknowledge we are very very ingnorant of eastern/ex ussr culture or history save for the very biased media propaganda politicians serve us depending on their interest of the moment... but my mommy told me that when you visit someone's home or are invited at someone's home, you would behave according to your host's rule and not expect to push on your own set of homerule to his household

it sounds to me like the basics of courtesy but it seems that on a national or continental sized scale, there are many people who are governing us or "representing" us who think it's a better idea to accept any "guest" do keep doing as he sees fit and is used to regardless of most "house rules" already in effect.

but nowadays in my country for example, saying that aloud leads you being labelled as an hideous racist of some sort.

and i thouth my mommy gave me a decent education...
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Djaron: and i thouth my mommy gave me a decent education...
There is that thing with muslims, best described in history with Lot (same story as in Bible):
Guest is a sacred thing (because it can be an angel), you should do everything to help him, give your last belongings, etc.
In muslim areas you can be feed for free, given a place to sleep for free, and so on. Travelling in our muslim areas were quite pleasant within that regard.
There are no issues, when everyone in the area has more or less equal quality of life.

One of European problems - coming people expect welfare, which would make them equal to local population. This is integral part of their culture. The same they would've done for you, if you ever headed to their territory.

I'm not talking about people, which run to Europe for free welfare, it's a tough nut to crack without revisiting whole welfare system.
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Djaron: and i thouth my mommy gave me a decent education...
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Gremlion: There is that thing with muslims, best described in history with Lot (same story as in Bible):
Guest is a sacred thing (because it can be an angel), you should do everything to help him, give your last belongings, etc.
In muslim areas you can be feed for free, given a place to sleep for free, and so on. Travelling in our muslim areas were quite pleasant within that regard.
There are no issues, when everyone in the area has more or less equal quality of life.

One of European problems - coming people expect welfare, which would make them equal to local population. This is integral part of their culture. The same they would've done for you, if you ever headed to their territory.

I'm not talking about people, which run to Europe for free welfare, it's a tough nut to crack without revisiting whole welfare system.
well french tourists who go to other countries usually have to respect local laws. We had stories where some of our fellow citizen were punished by local court for infractions they made there. so even if i do acknowledge what you say (i didnt know about it, tbh... that helps some understanding...), there still seems to be some strange double standard unless i completely misunderstood.

though i have a fun one for you anyway: here we have a law regarding our own citizen travelling away as tourists: should they commit actions that are not punishable by the foreign country law and standard but ARE against our own laws and should they be reported, they would be punished by court here when they are back... (yes we are strange bunch of folks indeed, that's what makes part of the infamous legend about us)

btw we already have so much trouble trying to keep our healthcare system running up that it will soon collapse and we may no longer be that attractive of a country at all (but if you are in for a change, it seems we are finishing to set up the last few stone to rebuild some good old fashionned fascism if it's the kind of thing anyone would fancy, the result is ought to be quite neat in this regard) we have the tendancy to run to any bad idea from abroad, way later than their initial country of birth and especially after they had proven themselves so wrong that said country already acknowledged it and gave it up :) japan used to copy things and produce them more and better... we takes failing BS and make them even worse :) should it be an olympic sport we would steal all three medals at it
Post edited January 10, 2016 by Djaron