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Today the world became a poorer place.
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Klumpen0815: Here's something fitting from the second game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9pQUKV9MuM
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Theta_Sigma: In honour of his passing, I would like to post this link because I think it's something he would appreciate, I do not mean to offend so I do apologize ahead of time if it does to anyone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9pQUKV9MuM

One of my favourite parts of Discworld 2. <3
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vv221: Looks like a good time to post this too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9UFrt_ejz0
thats it i am done with 2015

this is awfull news and the world just became that much more empty
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Gede: I too have never read anything written by him. I would like to.
Would someone care to suggest where to start?
well, Discworld is broken up into a bunch of smaller subseries. Each one tends to focus on different things/characters/themes/etc.. Like books about Rincewind and other wizards are mostly parodies of nerdy things: fantasy novels, tabletop games, science, etc.. Books about the witches are about more rural folksy common sense things as well as fairy tales, english literature and theatre. Death books are about well death, belief in stuff like gods and the afterlife and other abstract concepts.

you can read them in about any order, as long as you try to stick to reading the books in each subseries in chronological order as much as you can. You'd just might miss out on some of the cameos/jokes from other subseries.

also the first few books aren't as good, as they are more straight fantasy parody and a lot of the philosophical concepts hadn't come into their own yet. It's pretty often recommended to start with Guards Guards since it's far enough in for the series and setting and themes to have been developed and fleshed out while still being at the start of a subseries (and the watch parts are fairly popular and tend to get the most attention from Pratchett)

Small Gods is another one, though it's a bit far removed from the rest of the series in terms of setting/time period.
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Gede: I too have never read anything written by him. I would like to.
Would someone care to suggest where to start?
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mrcrispy83: well, Discworld is broken up into a bunch of smaller subseries. Each one tends to focus on different things/characters/themes/etc.. Like books about Rincewind and other wizards are mostly parodies of nerdy things: fantasy novels, tabletop games, science, etc.. Books about the witches are about more rural folksy common sense things as well as fairy tales, english literature and theatre. Death books are about well death, belief in stuff like gods and the afterlife and other abstract concepts.

you can read them in about any order, as long as you try to stick to reading the books in each subseries in chronological order as much as you can. You'd just might miss out on some of the cameos/jokes from other subseries.

also the first few books aren't as good, as they are more straight fantasy parody and a lot of the philosophical concepts hadn't come into their own yet. It's pretty often recommended to start with Guards Guards since it's far enough in for the series and setting and themes to have been developed and fleshed out while still being at the start of a subseries (and the watch parts are fairly popular and tend to get the most attention from Pratchett)

Small Gods is another one, though it's a bit far removed from the rest of the series in terms of setting/time period.
And of course there is stuff outside the massive discworld universe like my favourite book from him The Dark Side of the Sun which should be considered more often. People tend to only read discworld stuff from him, just like they only read "Hitchhiker's Guide through the Galaxy" by Douglas Adams although he had other great books too.
Post edited March 13, 2015 by Klumpen0815
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Klumpen0815: People tend to only read discworld stuff from him, just like they only read "Hitchhiker's Guide through the Galaxy" by Douglas Adams although he had other great books too.
Like for example 'Last Chance to see'


I will miss Terry Pratchett too. Let's hope that Death takes good care of him. Perhaps Terry will become a new houshold member together with Alfred.
Very sad news. I hope he's having a blast with Douglas Adams now.
This is going to sound weird, maybe even offensive to some people, but I don't feel this passing is completely sad.

I love the Discworld books as much as anyone and I felt very sad when the news broke that Terry Pratchett has been diagnosed with early onset Alzheimer's.

It's a bitterly cruel disease. I watched a close friend of my family destroyed by it over the last few years. One of the most kind and gentle people you could hope to meet turned aggressive and violent, unable to interact with anyone, not even her husband or children. I know she wanted to die when it got bad, she told us so before she lost the power to communicate and she followed through with attempts to starve and injure herself. I believe she would've done more if the disease hadn't fully taken her so swiftly, it was a shock just how fast it happened.

I don't believe Alzheimer's affects all sufferers so aggressively, but I believe that Terry Pratchett's passing may be a release for him and his family.
Several hours later, I still can't get over this.
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JMich: Are you aware of how uhs works? They don't give you answers, just hints.
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toxicTom: UHS is a hint system that gradually reveals what you are supposed to do, starting with vague hints and adds more concrete help with every hint level and outright disclosing the solution only at the very end. For each puzzle individually. It's a great system, not just a plain old walkthrough.
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kalirion: UHS-Hints at least starts with a small hints that get progressively more detailed if you need them to be, and only outright tells you the solution if nothing else works.
Dangerous stuff...hints are an entry-level drug! First it's hints, then it's walkthroughs and before you know it you're watching Let's Plays on Youtube :-O

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kalirion: Discworld is a very unfair game. Regardless of how smart you are, or how good you are at adventure games, you are very unlikely to be able to get very far in it without a walkthrough.
Getting stuck in 100% linear adventure games really rubs me the wrong way, I mean in most of those games it should be theoretically impossible to get stuck and yet it happens so quickly. It doesn't even matter if it's a hard game or not, I almost always get badly stuck for the silliest and smallest oversights. For example, I got stuck in Memoria a couple months ago even though it's not a hardcore game at all, and when I tried again recently I casually tried something and was perplexed that I hadn't tried that before, it was a simple item on item combination that I could have figured out much earlier if I had tried brute force mode. Probably spent 1,5 to 2 hours without progress before on my previous attempt only to spontaneously figure things out when I came back after several months. Sadly, "taking a break and coming back with fresh mind" often does not work so that's no recipe for success and rather obvious advice one often hears, well meant but not overly useful.

And then shortly after that I got stuck again and didn't progress for more than an hour so the game is on halt again - needless to say my completion speed and rate is lousy.
I'm not willing to look up any hints because I've already come this far so I would end up thinking I failed if I were to look up hints for Memoria now, especially considering it's generally more on the easy and logical side compared to many older adventures. It is definitely more challenging than its prequel though (Chains of Satinav).

I don't mind asking for help for non-linear games of other genres and exchanging tips and tricks for things like strategy games can even be part of the fun because different people come up with different solutions. But when there's only one solution, getting help if any kind - including UHS - diminishes my enjoyment of a game considerably, can't change it :/
Post edited March 13, 2015 by awalterj
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sunshinecorp: Several hours later, I still can't get over this.
I know... I can't quite believe it still.. a new Discworld book has been an annual event for as long as I can remember. It's strange knowing the man who created all that is gone.. :(
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IanM: This is going to sound weird, maybe even offensive to some people, but I don't feel this passing is completely sad.

I love the Discworld books as much as anyone and I felt very sad when the news broke that Terry Pratchett has been diagnosed with early onset Alzheimer's.

It's a bitterly cruel disease. I watched a close friend of my family destroyed by it over the last few years. One of the most kind and gentle people you could hope to meet turned aggressive and violent, unable to interact with anyone, not even her husband or children. I know she wanted to die when it got bad, she told us so before she lost the power to communicate and she followed through with attempts to starve and injure herself. I believe she would've done more if the disease hadn't fully taken her so swiftly, it was a shock just how fast it happened.

I don't believe Alzheimer's affects all sufferers so aggressively, but I believe that Terry Pratchett's passing may be a release for him and his family.
He was a supporter of medically assisted suicide for good reasons.
Of course for him it was probably for the best to go now before his disease would have gotten even worse, it's still sad (selfishly of course) to see such a unique person go, but he has a big legacy and won't be forgotten for a looooong time.
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Klumpen0815: People tend to only read discworld stuff from him, just like they only read "Hitchhiker's Guide through the Galaxy" by Douglas Adams although he had other great books too.
I read all of Pratchett's books, and enjoyed them a lot, but except for maybe The Long Earth, which I consider to be almost a masterpiece of modern SF, all his best works (in my opinion of course) were in the Discworld- Small Gods (his best book by far), Last Hero, Night Watch.

Also, Discworld went on for so long, and was consistantly good, people (myself included) really grown attached to it, the world and the characters, over the years. I really can't think of another series like that, going on for so long, with so many installments, and always so good. For me it's well over a decade of reading Discworld, for some it's two or even three. That's irreplaceble, and a big part of one's life. I myself have so many fond memories associated with Discworld...
Saw this on Reddit earlier, really nice.

The sun goes down upon the Ankh,
And slowly, softly fades -
Across the Drum; the Royal Bank;
The River-Gate; the Shades.

A stony circle's closed to elves;
And here, where lines are blurred,
Between the stacks of books on shelves,
A quiet 'Ook' is heard.

A copper steps the city-street
On paths he's often passed;
The final march; the final beat;
The time to rest at last.

He gives his badge a final shine,
And sadly shakes his head -
While Granny lies beneath a sign
That says: 'I aten't dead.'

The Luggage shifts in sleep and dreams;
It's now. The time's at hand.
For where it's always night, it seems,
A timer clears of sand.

And so it is that Death arrives,
When all the time has gone...
But dreams endure, and hope survives,
And Discworld carries on.
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fishbaits: Saw this on Reddit earlier, really nice.

The sun goes down upon the Ankh,
And slowly, softly fades -
Across the Drum; the Royal Bank;
The River-Gate; the Shades.

A stony circle's closed to elves;
And here, where lines are blurred,
Between the stacks of books on shelves,
A quiet 'Ook' is heard.

A copper steps the city-street
On paths he's often passed;
The final march; the final beat;
The time to rest at last.

He gives his badge a final shine,
And sadly shakes his head -
While Granny lies beneath a sign
That says: 'I aten't dead.'

The Luggage shifts in sleep and dreams;
It's now. The time's at hand.
For where it's always night, it seems,
A timer clears of sand.

And so it is that Death arrives,
When all the time has gone...
But dreams endure, and hope survives,
And Discworld carries on.
That is beautiful, somber, sad and joyous all at the same time. Thank you for re-posting that here, it's nice to see something beautiful in a time of loss.