Fenixp: ...
While I still believe this to be a fantastic community, most likely far better than most you can find on the interwebz nowadays, the reason why I very rarely join an internet community and stay is because I'm having difficulties handling those rare cases when somebody manages upset me or piss me off, which seems to be an increasing tendency. See, when that happens, I put my "Asshole armor +1" on and swoop down to their level, even if using clever words while doing so. When that happens, I don't feel good - I feel rather bad about myself, actually, and past the last year and a half or so, that's been happening increasingly more and more. Now I'm not trying to color myself as a victim, I am an asshole when it comes down to it, but I don't want to be - sadly, since this reactionary tendency is not something I can control very well,
the only solution seems to be to just cut myself off altogther. Taking a break is always a perfectly viable choice when you're not having fun but running away doesn't solve anything imho. Why? Because it's our ego that makes us argue with others. We all have an ego, without it we wouldn't have a personality. The only way to get rid of ego is a frontal lobotomy. With a full frontal lobotomy, you would only be able to play a fraction of games, Torchlight for example.
So the solution is not removing ourselves from others but to just work on ourselves, that's what I intend to do and that's all one can do really. But it's a lot already. In that regard, enjoy your break and we'll be seeing you around when the Fenixp rises from the ashes!
Breja: Honestly, I felt like doing the same recently, after some very disheartning experiences, but I decided not to let a few assholes chase me off. A day may come when I forsake this forum and brake all bonds of gamership, but it is not this day.
However, with every non-asshole leaving the forum that day is probably getting closer. Don't leave! Don't let them overrun the forum!
"A day may come when the courage of men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship. But it is not this day." :)
babark: I still say it is not necessary for you to leave. I've been active on here a lot less than you, but if you ask me, the best way to behave is say your piece (in whatever the discussion here is), and then ignore anyone and everyone who's obviously and intentionally being a troll.
For me that last part is very hard, because I think "what if someone reads what they said in response to me, and because of that think what I said is lacking or wrong or something?!"
But I've come to realise that most people recognise a troll or an idiot for what they are, so there's no need to stoop down to their level.
Ahem...anyhow, that was probably me projecting my own feelings more than anything you felt. Still, be sad to see such an "oldie" go.
Imho it's not about not descending to the level of the other person, it's about not descending to
our own lowest level which is even harder, at least that's what I've come to realize via self-reflection. Now I only have to put this realization into practice... :)
Coming to think about it, it's still very easy to stay clear of trouble around here if one follows the following unwritten rules:
1.) Don't voice an opinion about politics
2.) Don't voice an opinion about religion
3.) Stay away from the GamerGate vs SJW thread
4.) Don't create friend finding threads or "need help with Teh Wintchner 3" threads in the general forums
By categorically avoiding threads of this nature, one will generally avoid feeling annoyed and have no problems. There are plenty of awesome threads that get far too little attention, e.g the
Draw and Guess the Game thread. There are plenty of great threads so I often ask myself, why can't we resist partaking in the toxic ones? It's not easy. It's never a battle against others that we win or lose, only a battle against ourself.
LinustheBold: ...
There are good people here, a lot of them. Sad to say, you're outnumbered.
Most of the great people I know here don't post in the forums a lot, they do exist though! Just because toxic threads create more noise (always have, always will) doesn't mean it's all going down the drain.
Imho one good person can outweigh the presence of 10 bad ones because quality > quantity. We can't change other people but we can work on ourselves, and as I wrote above that's what I'm intending to do because there sure is room for improvement.
tinyE: I just realized, if you folks, my friends, all leave, I'm going to be in here all day posting to myself.
The server costs would go down if the forum was exclusively full of one-liners :)
tinyE: Shit, it will be just like high school.
That would be darkly ironical, seeing as gamers used to be a close-knit brotherhood that defied the BS antisocial system of high school together, not against each other. Then again, the demographics were different back in the 90s so there's that.
Even the PC gamers vs console gamers feuds were mild and I remember that most arguments ended in playing games on the systems of the enemy. I usually said Playstation sucks vs my PC, Dreamcast sucks vs my PC etc and then spent hours playing with people on their consoles because they were so keen on proving that consoles were better :)