The Harry Potter movies... because they're just sooooooooooooo bad.

I love the Harry Potter movies.

I love the books more, but I love the movies.

At least it looks like we might be on the same page then when it comes to episodes 7 & 8 :)
But Rogue one? I haven't seen it yet but a lot of people seem to like it, more so than episodes 7 & 8 at least, which is giving me hope. The only thing that annoys me about some of these films are the young but incredibly bad-ass protagonists, simply because it can easily fail to be believable (at least when there is isn't anything like the force to explain it away). I imagine something like Rogue One, but with an older Kathryn Janeway or Ellen Ripley type character would've been far better. Though that's just a hunch. I'll have to actually watch the film first.
I really liked the first 3, perhaps 4 Harry Potter movies. It's when the whole teenager drama thing started to rear its head that I nope'd out. Not that there is a lot of it necessarily, but I definitely caught a whiff of it, and I'm pretty sure I'm violently allergic to it :P

I'd guess, it's the shadow of the photographer. ;)

Rogue One is somewhat okayish but certainly not a praiseworthy achievement, stereotypical unrelatable characters, all over the place storytelling with a plot that has been done before better in Guns of Navarone, Where Eagles Dare or take your pick.
The only thing going for it is that the movies are visually striking but if the rest is crap it's meaningless.
But hey, they score over 8 points on IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes, so the general consensus is that I must be wrong, same for all the superhero shit.

That depends on where you look the most, both sides of the SW prequels are pretty vocal. Go look up some pro PT videos on Youtube and you'll usually see a considerable higher like to dislike ratio. I don't look at PT hate stuff because even though I grew up with the OT first, the PT did more things right than the PT haters give them credit for.

The lightsaber battles with actual techniques, several new characters, great performances from those characters (esp. Obiwan, Darth Maul and Qui-Gon). The world building was excellent too, we saw the jedi council, the galactic senate, pod racing, several new worlds, sleek starships, the more mature political plot, among others. Not to mention we had several good games that take place in the PT as well as the excellent Clone Wars animated series. I'll agree with the next person the PT had flaws in execution and poor dialog but I still think they got more things right than wrong and no amount of PT haters that bitch about sand, midichlorians and Jar-Jar Binks will ever change that.

And it isn't like the OT was flawless either, ewoks anyone?

Edit: Oh, and I did see Rogue One as well. It's an okay movie and I did like it more than I thought. The darker tone suited this movie and I did like K-2S0. But there is stupid stuff in the movie too. Darth Vader was out of character and Krennic just came off as incompetent. I won't say much more in case you want to see it yourself

In Rogue One it makes sense, she was basically raised by a resistance group leader, grew up as a part of his guerrilla group, and then spent some years on her own as an outlaw. Makes perfect sense she'd have skills and be tough.

I liked the characters fine in Rogue One, and as for the plot having been done before - I guess we should hate all of Star Wars then, because the franchise was always all about taking stuff that's been done and transplanting it into a space sci-fi settting. You can also hate Magnificent Seven or A Fistfull of Dollars for being western versions of samurai movies. And we could go on. As long is it is done well, as I think Rogue One is, I don't mind.

I'll be honest, I hate the Potter movies. I think they magnify everything worst about the books, and later on they just stop making any sense at all. And most of the kid actors are pretty terrible.

And yeah, the teen drama stuff is just awful. It reaches a point where the lord of all darkness is about to return and conquer the world but everyone is stil focused on who asks out who to the prom. Makes you want to just take a hammer to the protagonist's brains, if they have any.

First five minutes of Rogue One:

- Mother brainfarts and attempts to protect husband from army of badguys.
- Mother gets wasted.
- Juvinele heroïne is left without parents and left to fend for herself.
- But wait, she is rescued by Forrest Withaker who also doesn't take care of her. (appendix character)

And the facepalming continues.

On top of that the new movies effectively assassinated all the characters of the original trilogy too, so Disney must really hate Star Wars.

I love The Thing! One of my favorite movies of all time and also one of the first actual horror film I ever saw, it came out on home video when I was 7 and my babysitter rented it not really knowing what it was.

I get that. The more I hear about how good a film is the more I think it's going to be a huge disappointment. The worst is when there are several people saying it's a great movie that I absolutely have to watch, but at the same time they can't tell me anything about it because they don't want to spoil it. I went through this with the movie Moon, one guy even told me to not watch the trailer because it could spoil the plot. I finally watched the movie a few months ago and really enjoyed it. Even my kids thought it was great! The problem is that I can't now recommend it to others without doing the whole "I can't tell you anything about it" schtick.

He does untill she's like 16 or something.


The sequels suck, no argument there.

A few months ago I read an article about the Oscars' greatest misfires. It paid special attention to 1994.

It read:

What won Best Picture: Forrest Gump
What should have won: EVERY OTHER MOVIE NOMINATED THAT YEAR.

Two of those others that jump to mind are Pulp Fiction and Hoop Dreams which IMHO both blew FG out of the water.

Great film! Haven't seen The Guns of Navarone yet though, but I have played the Commandos 2 level The Guns of Savo Island if that counts :)

I'll be honest, I think Event Horizon is a piece of crap. Not scary, makes no sense, it's just ove the top and silly for me.

And now to make a total ass of myself- I think Alien is kinda boring. Definately not scary at all. It has great visuals and I really like the beginning, with exploring the mysterious alien ship and all, but once it's just about the alien killing everyone on the ship it just gets tedious for me.

I like Aliens a lot though. One of the few times I think the sequel is better than the first movie.
Pulp Fiction is one of the worst movies I've ever seen in my life :D

Yup, it seems we are almost on the same page concerning the OT and PT. Though I think that I instead started with the PT probably affects my enjoyment of it in the sense that I personally can't find fault in its execution or dialog. Well, except for Anakin's space sequence and Jar-jar's shenanigans during the final battle in The Phantom Menace. Then again, it did contrast very well with the intense lightsaber dual so I'm not sure.

Somehow I completely missed the Clone Wars animated series. It's something I'm really looking forward getting into.

I see. If they handle that well then I'm sure it could work. Part of my concern though was that she looked like 20 or something on the poster :P

It's curious the whole dynamic between enjoying a book before/after watching a film based on it. It can easily swing both ways in both cases.
- I try to read a book before the film if I can which, to be honest, I've only managed once, with The Hobbit. And there I really enjoyed the first film, perhaps because it stayed pretty close to the book. The Goblin encounter was pretty much identical to the book, save that there were more riddles in the book version iirc.
But I definitely most often read and hear about people being unimpressed when watching a film after having read the book. To experience a bit more of this I figure I should read Brandon Sanderson's novels asap because it might only be a matter of time before it makes it to the big screen.
- In the other direction, reading the book after the film. I've massively enjoyed Lord of the Rings and Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep, in a large part I think because I had the incredible visuals of the films to help along my imagination.
But when it comes to Harry Potter I don't really want to read the books anymore, and I think the films have something to do with it because the actors and their characters started to annoy me, and I don't think I'll be able to shake them from my head while reading the books.