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hedwards: I'm just not sure that a character being so known for huge boobses is going to be castable by somebody that isn't at least somewhat stacked.
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DaCostaBR: Have you played Tomb Raider in the last 10 years?
I'm not sure what that would have to do with anything. The character is pretty much defined by her assets more than anything else.
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DaCostaBR: Have you played Tomb Raider in the last 10 years?
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hedwards: I'm not sure what that would have to do with anything. The character is pretty much defined by her assets more than anything else.
You and most others in this discussion are casting a Lara Croft with short shorts, huge boobs, sexy and unflappable in the face of danger. All one-liners and innuendo. Without realizing this character doesn't exist anymore. It hasn't for almost ten years.

If they do make this movie, they'll adapt Lara Croft as she exists in the games now, not as she was 20 years ago.
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hedwards: I'm not sure what that would have to do with anything. The character is pretty much defined by her assets more than anything else.
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DaCostaBR: You and most others in this discussion are casting a Lara Croft with short shorts, huge boobs, sexy and unflappable in the face of danger. All one-liners and innuendo. Without realizing this character doesn't exist anymore. It hasn't for almost ten years.

If they do make this movie, they'll adapt Lara Croft as she exists in the games now, not as she was 20 years ago.
Which is sort of the point, the character and the games were a product of the '90s and should really stay there.
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DaCostaBR: You and most others in this discussion are casting a Lara Croft with short shorts, huge boobs, sexy and unflappable in the face of danger. All one-liners and innuendo. Without realizing this character doesn't exist anymore. It hasn't for almost ten years.

If they do make this movie, they'll adapt Lara Croft as she exists in the games now, not as she was 20 years ago.
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hedwards: Which is sort of the point, the character and the games were a product of the '90s and should really stay there.
That makes no sense. Tomb Raider 2013 sold millions of copies and was very well regarded by most who played it, similar goes for the more recent Rise of the Tomb Raider. It has changed to fit the times and found a new audience for it, if it had failed it'd be one thing, but it was successful, so why should it go back to the '90s?
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hedwards: I'm not sure what that would have to do with anything. The character is pretty much defined by her assets more than anything else.
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DaCostaBR: You and most others in this discussion are casting a Lara Croft with short shorts, huge boobs, sexy and unflappable in the face of danger. All one-liners and innuendo. Without realizing this character doesn't exist anymore. It hasn't for almost ten years.

If they do make this movie, they'll adapt Lara Croft as she exists in the games now, not as she was 20 years ago.
If a Lobo movie gets made, everyone expects it to be about Lobo from the 90s, not the current so called "Twilight Lobo" from the present comics. The Spider-Man we see in the upcoming Civil-War is the teenager in the classic costume, a character not seen in the comics for decades. For some characters, while they change and exist in many versions , there still exists a certain iconic look, one particular "definitive" version, and that's the one people expect to see in an adaptation, not some fleeting reimagining. For Lara Croft it's the big-boobed, guns-akimbo, shorts wearing bombshell.
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DaCostaBR: You and most others in this discussion are casting a Lara Croft with short shorts, huge boobs, sexy and unflappable in the face of danger. All one-liners and innuendo. Without realizing this character doesn't exist anymore. It hasn't for almost ten years.

If they do make this movie, they'll adapt Lara Croft as she exists in the games now, not as she was 20 years ago.
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Breja: If a Lobo movie gets made, everyone expects it to be about Lobo from the 90s, not the current so called "Twilight Lobo" from the present comics. The Spider-Man we see in the upcoming Civil-War is the teenager in the classic costume, a character not seen in the comics for decades. For some characters, while they change and exist in many versions , there still exists a certain iconic look, one particular "definitive" version, and that's the one people expect to see in an adaptation, not some fleeting reimagining. For Lara Croft it's the big-boobed, guns-akimbo, shorts wearing bombshell.
I think you overestimate people's affinity for the classic Lara Croft, she and her games were a joke for a long time, that was the entire reason for rebooting them. So while that Lara may be more immediately recognizable to the general public, through pop cultural osmosis alone, I think the current version has more fans right now than the classic one, which doesn't seem to be particularly missed.

Not to mention that it is certainly the financial success of the game reboot that created this interest in rebooting the film series as well.
Post edited March 11, 2016 by DaCostaBR
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DaCostaBR: You and most others in this discussion are casting a Lara Croft with short shorts, huge boobs, sexy and unflappable in the face of danger. All one-liners and innuendo. Without realizing this character doesn't exist anymore. It hasn't for almost ten years.

If they do make this movie, they'll adapt Lara Croft as she exists in the games now, not as she was 20 years ago.
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Breja: If a Lobo movie gets made, everyone expects it to be about Lobo from the 90s, not the current so called "Twilight Lobo" from the present comics. The Spider-Man we see in the upcoming Civil-War is the teenager in the classic costume, a character not seen in the comics for decades. For some characters, while they change and exist in many versions , there still exists a certain iconic look, one particular "definitive" version, and that's the one people expect to see in an adaptation, not some fleeting reimagining. For Lara Croft it's the big-boobed, guns-akimbo, shorts wearing bombshell.
Precisely. I have no doubt that the gameplay on more recent versions of Tomb Raider was better, but it's not really the same character and it's certainly not the one that I'd expect to see in the movies.

Also, the movies I saw weren't particularly good. They were good for movie adaptations of 1 dimensional characters from games, but not really anything to write home about.
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DaCostaBR: I think you overestimate people's affinity for the classic Lara Croft, she and her games were a joke for a long time, that was the entire reason for rebooting them. So while that Lara may be more immediately recognizable to the general public, through pop cultural osmosis alone, I think the current version has more fans right now than the classic one, which doesn't seem to be particularly missed.

Not to mention that it is certainly the financial success of the game reboot that created this interest in rebooting the film series as well.
Personally I don't care about Tomb Raider one way or the other, and I'm not arguing about what the studio should do, I'm just explaining why most people, when fan-casting Lara Croft, think of the classic version of the character. Although, while the new Lara might be very popular now, I expect the sexbomb Lara to eventually return. The iconic interpretation of a character usually has a way of reasserting itself once the freshness of a re-imagining wears off and it's popularity wanes.
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DaCostaBR: I think you overestimate people's affinity for the classic Lara Croft, she and her games were a joke for a long time, that was the entire reason for rebooting them. So while that Lara may be more immediately recognizable to the general public, through pop cultural osmosis alone, I think the current version has more fans right now than the classic one, which doesn't seem to be particularly missed.

Not to mention that it is certainly the financial success of the game reboot that created this interest in rebooting the film series as well.
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Breja: Personally I don't care about Tomb Raider one way or the other, and I'm not arguing about what the studio should do, I'm just explaining why most people, when fan-casting Lara Croft, think of the classic version of the character. Although, while the new Lara might be very popular now, I expect the sexbomb Lara to eventually return. The iconic interpretation of a character usually has a way of reasserting itself once the freshness of a re-imagining wears off and it's popularity wanes.
In this case that's pretty much inevitable.I'm not sure they'll ever get embiggened to the point they were, but big breasts tend to be rather popular.

The whole argument here is about as ridiculous as arguing for a Baywatch movie with less curvy actresses or ones that are overweight. I can't imagine people thinking of that when they think of Baywatch.
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Breja: Personally I don't care about Tomb Raider one way or the other, and I'm not arguing about what the studio should do, I'm just explaining why most people, when fan-casting Lara Croft, think of the classic version of the character. Although, while the new Lara might be very popular now, I expect the sexbomb Lara to eventually return. The iconic interpretation of a character usually has a way of reasserting itself once the freshness of a re-imagining wears off and it's popularity wanes.
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hedwards: In this case that's pretty much inevitable.I'm not sure they'll ever get embiggened to the point they were, but big breasts tend to be rather popular.

The whole argument here is about as ridiculous as arguing for a Baywatch movie with less curvy actresses or ones that are overweight. I can't imagine people thinking of that when they think of Baywatch.
Because the only other thing they could think about involving Baywatch is Baywatch Nights, with David Hasselhoff moonlighting as a private detective investigating supernatural cases involving sea creatures like mermaids, so of course they'll go with the old one.

This is more like arguing if the new TMNT movies will be inspired by the comics, the '80s cartoon, the early 2000s one, or the post 2010 one.
Post edited March 11, 2016 by DaCostaBR
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DaCostaBR: Because the only other thing they could think about involving Baywatch is Baywatch Nights, with David Hasselhoff moonlighting as a private detective investigating supernatural cases involving sea creatures like mermaids, so of course they'll go with the old one.
Just to be absolutely clear- I'd be much more interested if that was going to be the new movie.
I vote for: Gérard Depardieu
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DaCostaBR: You and most others in this discussion are casting a Lara Croft with short shorts, huge boobs, sexy and unflappable in the face of danger. All one-liners and innuendo. Without realizing this character doesn't exist anymore. It hasn't for almost ten years.

If they do make this movie, they'll adapt Lara Croft as she exists in the games now, not as she was 20 years ago.
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Breja: If a Lobo movie gets made, everyone expects it to be about Lobo from the 90s, not the current so called "Twilight Lobo" from the present comics. The Spider-Man we see in the upcoming Civil-War is the teenager in the classic costume, a character not seen in the comics for decades. For some characters, while they change and exist in many versions , there still exists a certain iconic look, one particular "definitive" version, and that's the one people expect to see in an adaptation, not some fleeting reimagining. For Lara Croft it's the big-boobed, guns-akimbo, shorts wearing bombshell.
Now that you mention the Main Man... is that a thing that they re-invent cool bad-ass characters into wimps and make them rape victims? It feel very wrong.

Not that I follow much re-imaginations (on purpose). Just happen to notice on these two.
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anothername: Now that you mention the Main Man... is that a thing that they re-invent cool bad-ass characters into wimps and make them rape victims? It feel very wrong.

Not that I follow much re-imaginations (on purpose). Just happen to notice on these two.
I think they just try to change things as much as possible. Happens to various kinds of characters. For example Captain Marvel (the orignal one), who used to be this happy, optimistic, even more boyscout than Superman kind of hero was reinvented a few years back as a kind of arogant jerk. And Spider-man is now a Tony Stark-like billionare, because he always used to be barely making ends meet, next-door kind of guy. And so on and so on. I could literally sit here all day listing superheroes who were "re-imagined" in the last five years by lazily doing a 180 on what defined them, or how they looked.
Post edited March 11, 2016 by Breja
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DaCostaBR: Tomb Raider 2013 sold millions of copies ... so why should it go back to the '90s?
because it never left the 90s, as far as I'm concerned the "new" Lara is still "Lara Croft with short shorts, huge boobs, sexy and unflappable in the face of danger."
Cast the new starwars "plank" girl who also can't act and you'll get a 100% guaranteed flop recipe.

What am I talking about, I'm willing to bet all my money that she's not gonna be the new lara. No director is that crazy.