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djlethal: Patience...
Stupidity, not patience. We, as clients, can and must demand when the producers are clearly failing or taking a piss at us with their neglecting policy. The official forum is obligated - not recommended - these days, and as a form of promotion as well help for fans, CD Projekt should established it immediately after the game was released. If they want to promote GOG forum, they should at least add subforms. Right now it's more chaotic and random that this stupid section of comments on the official page.
Oh please, you guys need to relax. What would an official forums do that the GoG forums is not even doing already? There is a topic for like every possible problem you could have for TW2 here anyway. I, for one, enjoy it here.
With all the work and care they put into The Witcher series, I find it hard to imagine that CDPr is happy about not having their own forum either.

There is only so much time in a day and money in a pot.

If one feels that a forum should be their FIRST priority, well...I don't know what to tell ya.

And this one works fine for now. :)
i think quite a bit of the facade of cdp being a caring community focused developer is falling away..

a week BEFORE the release of their biggest game yet... and almost 3 weeks since it came out... its pretty obvious now that theyve shut it down on purpose to avoid us... and i think its a sad thing for a 'caring' developer to do - to effectively kick us out of their club house and tell us that we arent their 'problem' any more.

and i really... REALLY hope no one is still suggesting this is a technical issue... its been like a month now, and not only is that FAR too long for any competent person working for a game development studio to require to fix it, but to suggest that its not an 'important' issue and that it can be back-burnered till later is just ridiculous and actually kinda sad... this is supposed to be their CONNECTION to us... if thats not important then they really need to reassess their priorities.

...especially for a developer that supposedly cares about its community.


also its not about us having 'another place to go', its about cdp thinking we arent worth the time or the effort. we could all go to a dozen other forums and find support and help there, but thats not the issue... its all about cdp and how theyve behaved by shutting down their forums so that they dont have to 'deal' with us...

...and that is just such a terrible way for them to act, especially after how much i USED to respect them as a 'peoples developer'..
Post edited June 07, 2011 by shivnz
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Cadenza: Oh please, you guys need to relax. What would an official forums do that the GoG forums is not even doing already? There is a topic for like every possible problem you could have for TW2 here anyway. I, for one, enjoy it here.
Not everyone is going to find this forum. It's been three weeks since the game's release and a full month since there has been any official forum for the Witcher games. As much as I like their games and as much as I like CDP, I have to agree with the others. This is ridiculous and reflects very poorly on CDP.
So you're basically saying not everyone can use google? I would much rather they work on releasing a game, patching it and creating DLC over an "official" forum. There is literally almost nothing an official forum can do that GoG does not. At best it might be a little easier to find. If they patch and release DLC regularly, I seriously would never even think about an official forum, much less care whether it exists or not.
I think at this point the "technical difficulties" excuse is just insulting to the community. I mean come on, a decent web developer can put up a forum online in 1-2 days...
It might not be the greatest forum in the world, but still a generic forum is still better then nothing, and after 3 weeks after release is just ridiculous not having an official forum for a game of this magnitude.

Bad manners....
Cadenza, I think you are missing the point. Yes, GOG can be a substitute official forum. But is poorly organized. It desperately needs sub forums, for example. Also, I think having an official forum is symbolic, if nothing else, of a caring company.

I am not suggesting they are not caring. Past actions speak loudly. However, the game develpomnet team is not the same team resposnsible for the web site. The arguement of "either new DLC or a forum" is specious at best.
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Cadenza: So you're basically saying not everyone can use google? I would much rather they work on releasing a game, patching it and creating DLC over an "official" forum. There is literally almost nothing an official forum can do that GoG does not. At best it might be a little easier to find. If they patch and release DLC regularly, I seriously would never even think about an official forum, much less care whether it exists or not.
give it a rest. youre so caught up in the notion of 'having somewhere to post' that you dont see the bigger picture. its like suggesting that no developer theoretically needs to even interact with their communities or provide help and support, because the 'community can pick up the slack", and while thats TRUE, it SHOULD reflect badly on the devleoper for RELYING on other parties to pick up the slack.

its not about people 'using google' to find somewhere to get help.. it should be about whether or not the developer is supporting its community, and whether or not it CARES about its community.

and clearly cdp is neither supporting OR caring about its user base, because its refusing to put its forum back online so that we can DIRECTLY go to them in an OFFICIAL capacity... we need a place where we FEEL like we have a direct connection to them, and cdp, simply, does NOT want to give us this, and THATS what i find so disappointing, and THATS why i dont think they care..

'offloading' us to this forum is just their way of shifting responsibility... support need to be provided by the community, and cdp ONLY show up when its convenient for THEM.

THIS is not an example of a caring developer.

and as said above... continuing to say 'TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES" on their forum? it IS insulting, and shows just how little regard they have for us.
Post edited June 07, 2011 by shivnz
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cbarbagallo: Cadenza, I think you are missing the point. Yes, GOG can be a substitute official forum. But is poorly organized. It desperately needs sub forums, for example. Also, I think having an official forum is symbolic, if nothing else, of a caring company.

I am not suggesting they are not caring. Past actions speak loudly. However, the game develpomnet team is not the same team resposnsible for the web site. The arguement of "either new DLC or a forum" is specious at best.
Exactly, if the teams are not the same why are people crucifying CDPR as a whole?

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Cadenza: So you're basically saying not everyone can use google? I would much rather they work on releasing a game, patching it and creating DLC over an "official" forum. There is literally almost nothing an official forum can do that GoG does not. At best it might be a little easier to find. If they patch and release DLC regularly, I seriously would never even think about an official forum, much less care whether it exists or not.
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shivnz: give it a rest. youre so caught up in the notion of 'having somewhere to post' that you dont see the bigger picture. its like suggesting that no developer theoretically needs to even interact with their communities or provide help and support, because the 'community can pick up the slack", and while thats TRUE, it SHOULD reflect badly on the devleoper for RELYING on other parties to pick up the slack.

its not about people 'using google' to find somewhere to get help.. it should be about whether or not the developer is supporting its community, and whether or not it CARES about its community.

and clearly cdp is neither supporting OR caring about its user base, because its refusing to put its forum back online so that we can DIRECTLY go to them in an OFFICIAL capacity... we need a place where we FEEL like we have a direct connection to them, and cdp, simply, does NOT want to give us this, and THATS what i find so disappointing, and THATS why i dont think they care..

'offloading' us to this forum is just their way of shifting responsibility... support need to be provided by the community, and cdp ONLY show up when its convenient for THEM.

THIS is not an example of a caring developer.

and as said above... continuing to say 'TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES" on their forum? it IS insulting, and shows just how little regard they have for us.
Are you kidding me? I didn't even know about GoG until Customer Support told me. But yeah you're right they aren't interacting with the community at all. That makes perfect sense.

You're the one that needs to give it a rest. Getting so worked up about a problem such as this is really a reflection of your own insignificance.
Post edited June 07, 2011 by Cadenza
New conspiracy: They are making steam users download 9 gig patches so they are forced to buy from GOG in the future.

:D
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BlazeKING: New conspiracy: They are making steam users download 9 gig patches so they are forced to buy from GOG in the future.

:D
That would actually be kind of hilarious, haha
and its people like you, cadenza, who always so blindly defend how badly developers and producers act towards gamers, that is the reason gaming has sunk so low.

the reason that overpriced dlc and paid MAP packs now exist... why developers release unpolished and unfinished games... you are the problem with games today... the apologists and the acceptors, not the 'whiners' like me who dont tolerate this kind of crap.

and yes.. i am insignificant... im one of the last handful of gamers on the planet that seems to think developer integrity should matter... im one of the last that doesnt just blindly accept and tolerate the way these companies behave and how they treat gamers...
Post edited June 07, 2011 by shivnz
@Cadenza: The fact that you don't care about the official forum existence does not mean that everyone else can ignore that and simply treat the GoG one as worthy substitution when it is not. Why are you insisting that the understanding of Google leads to this forum value? It does not. Others people and I already pointed out why GoG cannot replace the official forum and served as the foundations for the community. However, you insist that it can without bothering to explain. Then why gamespot forum cannot be one? It does not have subforums - as GoG does not - as well as it is full of repeating questions over and over again - as GoG is. See? Besides, gamespot is even more popular than GoG is and easier to find through Google, so using your logic, it should be the next official forum.
Post edited June 07, 2011 by Germanicanus
It doesn't matter what it is. Why can't it be gamespot? You're two are the only pink knights that care. Try enjoying the game. An official forum doesn't matter. The biggest ESport in the world right now, Starcraft/Starcraft 2 does not depend on the official battle.net forums at all. In fact, most of the news goes through community sites Teamliquid.net and fomos.kr

I am not condoning the absence of an official forum. You are just so quick to prove your point that you conveniently shoved those words into my mouth, as your immaturity would dictate. My point is a community can thrive with or without an officially sanctioned forum.

What matters is questions are being asked and answers are being given and those answers can be found. It is a single-player game that has a limited amount of content. A consolidated forum is not nearly as crucial as it would be for a multi-player game, especially a competitive one like Starcraft.

Clearly words are wasted on you two though. I just hope the both of you aren't contagious.+