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HijacK: Between this and post 88, I'm not sure which post attempts to be stupider.
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PrincessMilissa: I do agree we do get alot of freebies but marketers know we will probably buy it anyway.
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HijacK: As if that was hard to forge or fool.

Pffff, I'll have to do that at some point and examine the rage fest that it will spur.
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PrincessMilissa: That will get them banned according to the TOS. The reason this thread is not banned it allows everyone to post, no matter if you are female or male. I am surprised that you are not banned for that statement!
Please, close that pie you call mouth. I've heard of ignorance, but you crossed one too many lines. Tell me, where exactly did either of me or CharlesGrey said anything about exclusivity to posting? Oh wait...
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Jonesy89: To say nothing of, you know, the fact that OP is also planning a future male only GA.
4 Words: Simple math and logic.
Post edited October 21, 2014 by HijacK
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Ragnarblackmane: That's really all I have to say.
Not even anything on your three favourite game genres ;-).
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Crewdroog: I much prefer RPGs on PC than console;
Pfff, what about them JRPGs with awesome hair colors and hairstyles? :P
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Ragnarblackmane: 1. This is DDickinson's GA, therefore she is able to set any rules she likes, if it offends you then start your own giveaway only for those who are cismale. I notice a lot of the people complaining have never even hosted a giveaway, so really you should probably just not have posted anything in this thread at all because you're twice the idiot as you might have been.(If you think I'm referring to you, I probably am.)

2.We live in a world where the status of women is still not equal to the status of men. This is true across all religions, borders, and ethnicities. Get real,fellow dudes.

That's really all I have to say.
Thank you!! You said it perfectly!
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Post edited October 21, 2014 by Sage103082
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Ragnarblackmane: 2.We live in a world where the status of women is still not equal to the status of men. This is true across all religions, borders, and ethnicities. Get real,fellow dudes.
Not to sound like a deuche, but you know what they say in Arizona? And just to be clear, I quote a huge number of people. "Women and children have more rights than men." and as a matter of fact it is not far from the truth. There is a huge bias and ignorance when it comes to domestic violence committed by wives and domestic violence committed by husbands. In most cases the husband goes to jail and can lose everything, while a wife that is abusive either walks away with a fee penalty, a restraint order, or literally walks away freely.

This is not to say I don't agree with what you have said. If anything, the example I provided reinforces what you have said.
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Ragnarblackmane: 2.We live in a world where the status of women is still not equal to the status of men. This is true across all religions, borders, and ethnicities. Get real,fellow dudes.
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HijacK: Not to sound like a deuche, but you know what they say in Arizona? And just to be clear, I quote a huge number of people. "Women and children have more rights than men." and as a matter of fact it is not far from the truth. There is a huge bias and ignorance when it comes to domestic violence committed by wives and domestic violence committed by husbands. In most cases the husband goes to jail and can lose everything, while a wife that is abusive either walks away with a fee penalty, a restraint order, or literally walks away freely.

This is not to say I don't agree with what you have said. If anything, the example I provided reinforces what you have said.
Meanwhile, in countries like Afghanistan, women are lynched for supposedly committing adultery.

Can we put this discussion to rest? This thread is supposed to be about games and favorite genres, and ddickinson has said that she would like to focus on that.
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Crewdroog: I much prefer RPGs on PC than console;
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HijacK: Pfff, what about them JRPGs with awesome hair colors and hairstyles? :P
JRPGs are typically turn based, right? Don't like turn based games, despite the hair colors and styles. they make me nuts.
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ddickinson: What are you top 3 game genres and why?
1.) Combat strategy games
Strategy games where the focus is on combat. Preferably squad level and preferably turn based but I also like real time or hybrid style strategy games. Army level and grand strategy are also fun but I like getting a little bit more down and personal with individual units and little or if possible no losses on my side which is practically impossible in larger scale strategy games.

2.) Build & conquer / build & manage games
Includes peaceful games like Sim City and Transport Tycoon but also Caesar, Settler and Anno series. There's only one thing all these games have in common: You build and manage more than you fight and they're criminally addictive.

3.) Point & Click adventure games
I hate this genre. I love this genre. I could write entire books about how much I hate and how much I love this genre!

This year, I've played mostly point & click adventure games because they can be finished in a reasonable amount of time. I've played a couple strategy games this year (e.g. Cossacks, Dark Reign) but have only finished Stronghold Crusader. These kinda games take up more time than I can spare, Stronghold Crusader has 80 missions and it's quite impossible to plow your way through this in a weekend. Fortunately, it was around New Years time when I got around to playing that game. I recently bought Hearts of Iron 3 and have absolutely no idea where I will take the time to play that.


A question for the girls here:

Why are strategy games, especially the combat type (both TBS and RTS) so seemingly unpopular with female audiences? Of course there are girls who like these kinda games but by and large, the entire strategy genre seems to be the least popular among the female population. I don't have any stats that back up my suspicion but it's something I noticed over the decades.

I'm fairly sure the reason is not the violent or scary content because games like Assassin's Creed, Metroid, Halo, Silent Hill, Borderlands, Left 4 Dead , L.A. Noire, Team Fortress 2, Call of Duty, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Tomb Raider, Dragon Age and Skyrim are widely popular among female audiences who seem to like these games just as much as the guys do

What is it about strategy games that the majority of girls don't like? (except for Fire Emblem, Civilization and a handful others that do appear to have female fans in large numbers)
Some girls are big time strategy aficionados but they seem to be a very small minority, I'd personally estimate it at less than 10% of all female gamers. The strategy genre in general is one of the less popular ones among all gamers but girls seem to enjoy them in much lesser numbers than guys and I have no idea why.
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Crewdroog: JRPGs are typically turn based, right? Don't like turn based games, despite the hair colors and styles. they make me nuts.
Let's not forget the strange fascination they have with slutty underage girls in many JRPG's (and modern anime). You know, the whole preteen with huge breasts that dresses in the shortest skirt possible thing. Or the overly effeminate men with longer hair than the women that moan and whine like a bunch of old ladies.

I do like some JRPG's though, mainly the earlier Final Fantasy and other 90's JRPG games. I don't mind turn based fighting sometimes, as long as it is done right.

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awalterj: A question for the girls here:

Why are strategy games, especially the combat type (both TBS and RTS) so seemingly unpopular with female audiences?
A good question. I can't help you with an answer, because I love a good strategy game. I tend to prefer RTS over TBS, but I generally enjoy both kinds. I started on the original Command and Conquer games and then onto StarCraft, which I loved. I have not played the new games, only Starcraft and a BroodWar. The new reincarnations do not appeal to me. I also love the older Total War games (Medieval 2 was the last one I owned, because the newer games were just a mess). They offer something for my love of history and my love of mindless violence and world conquest ;-).
Post edited October 21, 2014 by ddickinson
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awalterj: A question for the girls here:

Why are strategy games, especially the combat type (both TBS and RTS) so seemingly unpopular with female audiences?
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ddickinson: A good question. I can't help you with an answer, because I love a good strategy game. I tend to prefer RTS over TBS, but I generally enjoy both kinds. I started on the original Command and Conquer games and then onto StarCraft, which I loved. I have not played the new games, only Starcraft and a BroodWar. The new reincarnations do not appeal to me. I also love the older Total War games (Medieval 2 was the last one I owned, because the newer games were just a mess). They offer something for my love of history and my love of mindless violence and world conquest ;-).
You clearly belong to the less than 10% exception demographic as your forum title aptly suggests :)

The percentage is probably higher than 10% here on GOG since it's all PC games - my rough estimate of 10% includes all female gamers including the ones who only play Candy Crush on Facebook. A male acquaintance* of mine also plays nothing but CandyCrush on Facebook so that isn't in all female demographic either, of course.

*he's freshly married, has two jobs and has several live rabbits so not too much time for gaming
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awalterj: What is it about strategy games that the majority of girls don't like? (except for Fire Emblem, Civilization and a handful others that do appear to have female fans in large numbers)
Some girls are big time strategy aficionados but they seem to be a very small minority, I'd personally estimate it at less than 10% of all female gamers. The strategy genre in general is one of the less popular ones among all gamers but girls seem to enjoy them in much lesser numbers than guys and I have no idea why.
I... I can't explain. There are some strategy games I like (Settlers 2, Stronghold Crusader), but I heavily dislike the majority of them.
In Dragon Commander I really loved doing stuff on the ship... and I really hated doing actual combat. (But mostly because there were no pause, and by the time I read what the f#&kk my units can even do, my base was already full of enemies.
I like tactical stuff, I like games that make me think and plan ahead, I like turn based RPGs and still, the majority of strategy games are just.... no D:
Boring? Maybe. I can clearly tell, that I hated Sim City, because I found it to be very boring.
Same with the Heroes games. I just.... hate them.
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MadyNora: I... I can't explain. There are some strategy games I like (Settlers 2, Stronghold Crusader), but I heavily dislike the majority of them.
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Boring? Maybe. I can clearly tell, that I hated Sim City, because I found it to be very boring.
Same with the Heroes games. I just.... hate them.
I'm trying to figure out how you can like Settlers 2 and Stronghold Crusader but dislike Sim City, this is very interesting!
Because it makes it very difficult to "classify" you in regards to my pseudo scientific 10% theory. I would say you are a strategy fan even if you dislike most of these games, because Settlers and Stronghold are classic and definite strategy games.

Could the reason for disliking Sim City be that Settler and Stronghold have people and a bit of a storyline in it and are less impersonal than Sim City which has no story or characters?

But then again, many strategy games have characters & stories so it can't be just that, now I'm confused.
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awalterj: A question for the girls here:

Why are strategy games, especially the combat type (both TBS and RTS) so seemingly unpopular with female audiences? Of course there are girls who like these kinda games but by and large, the entire strategy genre seems to be the least popular among the female population. I don't have any stats that back up my suspicion but it's something I noticed over the decades.

I'm fairly sure the reason is not the violent or scary content because games like Assassin's Creed, Metroid, Halo, Silent Hill, Borderlands, Left 4 Dead , L.A. Noire, Team Fortress 2, Call of Duty, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Tomb Raider, Dragon Age and Skyrim are widely popular among female audiences who seem to like these games just as much as the guys do

What is it about strategy games that the majority of girls don't like? (except for Fire Emblem, Civilization and a handful others that do appear to have female fans in large numbers)
Some girls are big time strategy aficionados but they seem to be a very small minority, I'd personally estimate it at less than 10% of all female gamers. The strategy genre in general is one of the less popular ones among all gamers but girls seem to enjoy them in much lesser numbers than guys and I have no idea why.
Strategy is not one of my favorite type of genres. For me I want a game I can get engrossed in for a hour or so and save and come back too and not be lost as what I was doing on what my next 10 moves should be. I am horrible at Chess. My mind is not one of those that can think 15 steps ahead.

I do not mind violent games at all.

I also love action games such as Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, Zelda to name a few . I do not mind the turn base fighting system but I do prefer hack and slash when I find a enemy. I have played several games that were more of a tactics and you had move so many spaces and wait for the enemy to move some spaces, everyone is walking towards each other over 10 minutes. Nah as stated before I do have the patience.
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HijacK: Not to sound like a deuche, but you know what they say in Arizona? And just to be clear, I quote a huge number of people. "Women and children have more rights than men." and as a matter of fact it is not far from the truth. There is a huge bias and ignorance when it comes to domestic violence committed by wives and domestic violence committed by husbands. In most cases the husband goes to jail and can lose everything, while a wife that is abusive either walks away with a fee penalty, a restraint order, or literally walks away freely.

This is not to say I don't agree with what you have said. If anything, the example I provided reinforces what you have said.
1.LMAO, Arizona is one of the most racist, conservative and backwards states in the USA.
2.Where are you getting these statistics on abuse? Please provide evidence bud, and show me several sources, from various political spectrums.
3. NO domestic violence should be tolerated, just to be clear.
4." This is not to say I don't agree with what you have said. If anything, the example I provided reinforces what you have said." Are you now turning around what I said to imply that women have higher status and more rights than men? Here's an easy example from the US involving pay discrimination based on gender:

Three independent sources, including one government one, which usually doesn't have a pro-female bias at all:
http://billmoyers.com/content/facts-figures-women-and-pay-inequality/
http://www.clearskybusiness.co.uk/equal-pay-rogue-firms-come-clean/
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d08799.pdf

2.The fact that there's even a debate about this means they're not equal. Just as racism, homophobia, and other discrimination exists.

To be clear: I do not like people like Anita Sarkeesian who obfuscate how empowering actual feminism can be for all genders, but I also find it disturbing how much violence is directed towards her and others like her simply for speaking opinions that,while flawed, are still coming from a position that I can understand.
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awalterj: I'm trying to figure out how you can like Settlers 2 and Stronghold Crusader but dislike Sim City, this is very interesting!
Because it makes it very difficult to "classify" you in regards to my pseudo scientific 10% theory. I would say you are a strategy fan even if you dislike most of these games, because Settlers and Stronghold are classic and definite strategy games.

Could the reason for disliking Sim City be that Settler and Stronghold have people and a bit of a storyline in it and are less impersonal than Sim City which has no story or characters?

But then again, many strategy games have characters & stories so it can't be just that, now I'm confused.
Hmm I think it has more to do with the setting. I don't really like "modern" setting in games, I'm much more into fantasy/historical.
But the Heroes games have fantasy setting, and I still dislike them....
To make you even more confused: I love the King's Bounty games :3

Or maybe because Sim City felt.... lifeless. Yea, I have a city, and so what? In Stronghold and Settlers I can see actual people.

I love Banished too, and it has no story... In Stronghold I never play story mode, just "freeplay" against enemies.

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Or maybe it's beacuse I feel that these games belong to the "seen one, seen them all" category. You have a base you must protect, you build a lumberjack to get wood, you build a stone mine to get stone, you build an army building to protect your lands, you build temples to make people happy, you build farms to feed people..... bam, I've just summarized the majority of city builders in a nutshell =/
Post edited October 21, 2014 by MadyNora