I'll play a game with a sexy female lead no problem, but if she is all tits just to be all tits with nothing else to bring to the table, then no, I'm probably not gonna play it. Those games tend to tank anyways.

Brilliant commercial idea? No, I don't consider pandering to base sexual desires as "brilliant" and it is by no means innovative. "You know what is lacking in female game protagonists? No clothes," has gone no meeting ever.

Edit: And I really don't enjoy the games you pointed out as "girl games". I'm all about blowing shit up while pretending to be an elf :)

You should apologize for nothing. It's your own giveaway to do what you want with.

I do notice your topic title of "no boys allowed" part probably bothered some. It's all in wording. Now if perhaps if it was just titled "The Girls of GOG Giveaway" I highly doubt there would be much fuss. You could have just added only female entrants for the prizes in your first post for the giveaway. Probably a few would be bothered. However it's in how the topic title "The Girls of GOG Giveaway - No Boys Allowed!" is portrayed in wording that can seem offensive. Take away the "No Boys Allowed" and the exclamation point that is equivalent to yelling and maybe less would be offended. And using the term boys (as juvenile) might offend some as well. A better replacement word would have been "guys" or "men".

My 2 cents of logical reasoning ^_^

anyways +1 for the interesting discussion as its always interesting to see what games women play and to know there is more than 1 female goger on this board ^_^

Perhaps if you had been paying more attention to those around you and not just those scantily dressed Amazonian warriors in your game then you would have noticed ;-).

I would go with the "proverbial paths just never cross until now" option. As with Piranjade's experience, I never had any trouble enjoying my gaming hobbies in real life, only online, where as Piranjade said, you "meet ... less understanding and friendly people".

I know that some girls end up giving up or hiding their gaming hobbies, usually in an attempt to better integrate with other girls at school. Gaming back then was still very much a "boys hobby", it still is, in a way, but people are becoming more accepting of female gamers and it is no longer the nerdy or male only hobby it once was.

Hedwards' post aside I haven't really seen anything I'd consider a "complaint". A little discussion sprung out on linguistic prescriptivism, but that's pretty much it. Except for that single post I've mentioned, I don't think anyone here truly believes this sort of "sexism" is bad. Now I kinda feel sorry for engaging in something that left this sort of impression :\...

When I used the words "No Boys Allowed", I used them thinking people would see it as a comical play on words. I meant it to sound like when we were younger, and we had our own little clubs, the boys with their no girls and the girls with their no boys policy. I thought that people would take it for the good hearted gesture it was intended, as many indeed did, not as something sexist.

Your comments were not the ones I was referring to when I wrote my post, I actually found yours to be very interesting. I was not referring to everyone comments, just some that seemed to take real exception to the thread. I was not classing the other comments to be the same as Hedwards. But there does seem to be some resentment and complaining about this thread been just for the women.

Hmm... I would have thought so. Lol ah yeah comical lightheartedness, not many would get that. A women might understand it, however a guy, lol very doubtful. It's a internet forum, some people like to troll if given the opportunity to make something out of nothing. Your topic thread title was too inciting and easy bait.

A bit food for thought as I can tell in the thread you do have more supporters out of this discussion. So don't let the dissenters get to you. ^_^

I hear you; I started my own chapter of G.R.O.S.S. from Calvin and Hobbes as a kid, but even then the whole concept seemed a little silly and it very quickly went nowhere. Seeing you reference that kind of thing made me smile a little at the memories of that kind of childhood goofiness.

I'm a fellah and I got it just fine myself. I think it has less to do with what sex/gender you are and more with whether or not you're ready to be offended by the least little thing and/or have no sense of humor.

But yeah, so far there has been waaaaaay more talk about people being offended than there has been from people who actually were offended. I think it's all good at this point.

At least the title had the desired effect on one person :-). It made me smile and remember my childhood when I wrote it, all the goofy things you did when you were a kid.

Hahaha, I was such a geek in grade school and HS, er, and I still am. I kind of kept it to myself because I think all of us geeks did. The only ones who were more open about it were the guys, and I was just so awkward that I never went up to any of them and said, "OMG I have that game on gameboy too!" Stupid puberty. Actually, I would say that my collection of Gameboy games could rival that of anyone at the time. I had one girlfriend who was really into games like I was, and her dad was a computer programmer so she always had the coolest and newest games. But, when we hit puberty she went for the stupid girl persona and we drifted apart.

I really didn't let my geek flag fly until high school. Fortunately, I went to an all girls school (by my own choice, sooo awkward around boys. soo awkward), and met my fellow geeks who were equally as into comic books, anime and Monty Python as I was. Unfortunately, they didn't share my obsession with games. My brother and his best friend filled that void.

You know who is the big girl gamer in my life? My Mom. She played our Nintendo more than we did (cause she would play it while we were at school). I remember when she beat Bubble Bobble. Her scores on Tetris are insane. You know why my Gameboy collection was awesome? My mom. Same goes for my sega handheld.

.....umm your avatar looks like a my little pony character. >_> I only know this because I used to work retail =P
I still stand by my statement that a good majority of guys wouldn't get the playful meaning of said topic title.

Since I'm young (23), for me "back then" is 2000~2005 :D I can't really comment on "those days".
Nowdays I'm frequent in an RPG / fantasy bookstore, and most employees there are women. When I looked at the pictures of Hungarian RPG meetings I saw lots of women, many of them being the meeting organizers themselves.
I was the biggest PC gamer in my class in high school, everybody acknowledged this, and nobody compalined because I was a girl.

On the other hand, my male classmates often played a Hungarian pen and paper RPG in breaks berween lessons, and during 1 week long class trips, and they NEVER allowed me to join, because I was a girl.
But they borrowed the rulebooks from ME..... No comment.
Ok, to be fair: At first, the Adventure Master had no problems with me playing with them, but another guy complained, because I've never played before, and I was a girl. He wanted to play a serious hardcore game, instead of babysitting a beginner girl. They had an arguement, and in the end they shooed me away, saying "RPGs are not for girls".
Fun fact: about 10 years ago I checked the webpage of a Hungarian RPG site. It had a list about "Signs that you're a serious RPG addict." One of these signs was: "You kow a girl who plays RPGs".
Almost every comment under that list called the site creators sexist, and stated that they know at least ten girls who play RPGs.

What's the matter, you never met a brony before?

Not in.


Favourite genre's

Rpg's, specifically rpg's that are open world and provide a non-linear narrative. I like these types of games, because I absolutely enjoy exploring and at the same time I like being able to make decisions that are impactful to the world around me. I enjoy being able to see the game react to my decisions, and it provides an experience that I find entirely immersive.

So a game that immediately comes to mind is Fallout New Vegas. It provides enough narrative depth to satisfy my curiosity of the world.

Adventure games are the next best thing to rpg's. It's also the complete opposite to the types of rpg's I enjoy playing. Adventure games have a linear story, and a linear world, with little to no deviation on how to approach a situation. However, adventure games tend to have a strong narrative focus, and I find that appealing. It's as if you are able to interact with a book.

My favourite Adventure games would be The Longest Journey series ( Can't wait for tomorrow! )

Finally I enjoy playing strategy games. It's the first genre I was introduced to, and because of that it certainly deserves a mention. There is nothing more satisfying than carefully reacting to ever evolving situations and coming out on top.

My favourite series in the genre has to be Starcraft, and nothing can beat the swarm. Spawn more Overlords!