So at this point, I basically have nobody on my "potential Mafia" list. Previously it was Nmillar, Robbeasy, Orry, and Twilight. And now Nmillar looks to be likely town, and the other three have been killed...so...

Here's something random I just thought of...what if the Mafia...erm...Mafias, aren't actually trying to eliminate Town? What if they're just supposed to try to eliminate each other? The only NK of a Townie (or the only NK of a Townie period? I actually can't remember :P) that hasn't been explained would be Joe's death...and that might have been by Vitek, the vigilante... or someone else.

I dunno... just wildly theorizing. I suppose this wouldn't actually effect us either way.

What the fuck? If I had imagined something it wasn't this.. Damn now I fear I made the wrong choice for tonight, but heck nothing to do about it now.

And also jefequeso, just to make sure.. if the vigilante your talking about is referring to me, then I have already said that mine was oneshot and that I killed Vitek.

Also nmillar and others... seems like the multimafia has been proven without doubt and that I need to rethink a lot in this game.. :O Damn, still can't believe it. Bet X is laughing his head of right now.

Also Zchinque:

We have Baz claimed to be paranoid doctor

We have Jef claimed lover to joe, whom survived his death (maybe due to a claimed protection by Baz)

We have me, claimed killer of vitek with one shot vig ability

We have nmillar claimed to receive info about people (every night as I understood it)

Then we had knowledge that a cop was around, but that was most likely Orryyrro

I have learned who most likely blocked me (me when I was quadalien) on night 1 -> assume Twilightbard

Don't think I know of other roles/have learned more from this... other than damn, a lot of mafias most still be in here. And a lot of thoughts as to how town is going to win this..scary shit.

Unlike last day I can't provide any new knowledge.. sorry - But heck with this many dead I dunno if we need it.

Last thing of note: SirPrimals the main one on my suspect list of now.. due to some overall feeling of oddness from his posts and the latest one where he seems surprised that Twilightbard wasn't shattered hand, while he is apparently not surprised that Robbeasy were not shattered hand either. Strikes me as an odd comment.

I was actually referring to VItek. I forget what his role was.


wait...Robb, what was your "choice for tonight?"

-Ah okay.. he was traitor ;)

wait, sorry...let me try that again...

RED, what was your "choice for tonight?"

Man, it's been a long day.

I know English isn't your first language, but come on. I think what I said was pretty clear:

His hand wasn't shattered during (after?) his murder, whereas Robbeasy's was. I didn't say anything about Robbeasy because his hand was shattered.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that this was you not paying attention, otherwise I'd call that a pretty scummy thing to do.

Thanks, Baron.

That leaves us with:

3 SirPrimalform - unknown
5 Cruward_darkeyes(Zchnique) - unknown
6 jefequeso - joe-lover (joe was town)
8 Grynn(NotfrenchYet) - unknown
11 Nmillar - Semi-random copish guy
12 Bazilisek - jailkeeper
13 Damnation - unknown
14 QuadrAlien(Red Baron) - 1-shot Vig, (shot spent, killed Vitek)

Hmm, need to mull this over.

Doh, your right.. Suddenly your post makes way more sense... I should go to bed. Clearly I am to tired to read properly and kudos for the good observation - I missed that shattered hand thing completely when reading the flavor...

Okay, SirPrimalform is a lot less scummy than I thought.

I'll take a good nights sleep and then tomorrow see with fresh eyes before judging anything.

Bump for baron.

Forgot to add to the list:

Damnation was claimed by nmillar to be town (vanilla if I recall correct in tired mode)

nmillar also claimed to know of another power role, but which wasn't revealed, only that it weren't me.

Also I only claimed to have used that one-shot ability, not my role. (Just for clarity sake)

Jef, it sound a little like fishing what your asking, but without saying too much, let me just say that I made the choice of doing nothing.

Ah, right, right...

Updating:

3 SirPrimalform - unknown
5 Cruward_darkeyes(Zchnique) - unknown
6 jefequeso - joe-lover (joe was town)
8 Grynn(NotfrenchYet) - unknown
11 Nmillar - Semi-random copish guy
12 Bazilisek - jailkeeper
13 Damnation - vanilla townie (as claimed by nmillar)
14 QuadrAlien(Red Baron) - Unknown power role (claimed to have spent 1-shot kill on Vitek, otherwise unknown)

If anyone has any other corrections, or already public details on who did what when and why, please let me know.

In case anyone was wondering, I'm thinking we might be able to narrow the possible scum down to a select few, based on public information and some qualified guesswork about the setup.

What the fuck?

Hopefully, this won't merge:

I was blocked tonight. It may have been TwilightBard (I was after him and Rob pretty heavily yesterday, after all), or there might still be another blocker running around. Which means I have basically no information to share today. Got hit on the head from the back, never saw anything.

Proof of multiple mafia, in which two members of the same team are killed during the same night? Really seems like we're back down to one again now..! I'm puzzled too as to how two people were taken down if red was truely one-shot, but whatever. Meanwhile, our numbers are dwindling. As the lynch flavour for orry mentioned a single earpiece dropped in the room above, it seems safe to assume there's one shattered hand scum left - this again is confirmed by the flavour for robb's kill. Last one maybe..?

I'm not really sure where best to go from here, frankly, since like jefe all my suspects are now either dead (robb and bard) or more or less confirmed town (nmillar). Still, with all those unknowns on the list, there's more information to come out yet.

Scumdar wise, damnation's early hunt on itai really comes off as weird reading it back now, but he's already sort-of cleared by nmillar - would be nice to have some input from damn there... Cruward/zchinque, still not much data to go off... Unless red is part of some incredibly complicated plot involving orry, it seems we can also write off that huge argument over paraphrasing.. or.... Maybe not, actually, since there were more people involved in that than just orry... need to read it through again, methinks.

Do not be so quick to let nmillar off the hook! It's certain now that the setup is fairly complex, there may be a ton of reasons for him to do what he did.

I have an idea or two, but I've got to do at least a quick re-skim of the thread. This latest development complicates matters a lot. Still, 8 alive and 3 scum and a traitor dead? That's pretty good.