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bazilisek: Example scenario: nmillar is lying and he picked Orry as a semilurker who is likely to be lynched without much questioning, but Orry is actually a Town Princess / Cop (or another power role); a claim like that could stop us in our tracks and make us lynch nmillar with his claimed and not particularly clearly defined informative role instead. It's almost certain one of them is getting lynched, but not which one. Possibly both, if we lynch the truthful one first.
That's something I considered as well, but it's at least clear that, whatever his intentions are, nmillar picked Orry a long time ago.
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SirPrimalform: That's something I considered as well, but it's at least clear that, whatever his intentions are, nmillar picked Orry a long time ago.
Yeah, but Orry has been a semilurker in every single game he's been in so far; he's one of those who always make it to the lists of suspects. So he'd be a pretty good choice. Besides, there's still this weird 14-day gap before nmilar planted that crumb.
Personally , I think there's only one choice for Lynch before deadline - Orry.

Nmillars breadcrumbing was a long time back - he could have taken a punt that Orry was going to be quiet (which matches Orry's playstyle to some extent), but I don't really see lynching anyone else or waiting for a Modkill is any use to us.

Its unreasonable to get someone in in Orry's place really, with the deadline looming and that accusation over him. I'm all for waiting to see if Orry returns before, but I think Orry should be lynched. If he doesnt turn up scum , we have nmillar to lynch tomorrow.

The only reason I could see nmillar lying about Orry - he's some sort of lyncher and wins the game if Orry dies before him, even if he himself is dead before the end of game.
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SirPrimalform: That's something I considered as well, but it's at least clear that, whatever his intentions are, nmillar picked Orry a long time ago.
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bazilisek: Yeah, but Orry has been a semilurker in every single game he's been in so far; he's one of those who always make it to the lists of suspects. So he'd be a pretty good choice. Besides, there's still this weird 14-day gap before nmilar planted that crumb.
Yeah, I'm suspicious that he's plotting something and Orry just seemed like the best person to claim to be scum, or even worse: Orry is someone important to town.
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Robbeasy: The only reason I could see nmillar lying about Orry - he's some sort of lyncher and wins the game if Orry dies before him, even if he himself is dead before the end of game.
Not impossible IF nmillar is a third party; it would make no sense if he's either town or scum. On the other hand, him being a third party would neatly explain the rather untownish way he came out with that information. Though one would think that if he wanted to suicide bomb his way to victory, he'd do it earlier than on day three.

I suppose we'll end up lynching Orry anyway, but that doesn't mean I'm happy with it.
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bazilisek: Yeah, but Orry has been a semilurker in every single game he's been in so far; he's one of those who always make it to the lists of suspects. So he'd be a pretty good choice. Besides, there's still this weird 14-day gap before nmilar planted that crumb.
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SirPrimalform: Yeah, I'm suspicious that he's plotting something and Orry just seemed like the best person to claim to be scum, or even worse: Orry is someone important to town.
There's also the possibility that both nmillar and Orry are scum, and nmillar is setting up a bus for major townie points. It explains why nmillar had info on Orry day 1 - nmillar's claim on the matter seems strange to me. While the somewhat-random-cop is a plausible role, it seems strange that the mod would just hand him a scum before the game has even started. It would also explain the odd timing of nmillar's breadcrumb - people are unlikely to randomly find a breadcrumb in the middle of the day, but it would still give him something to point back to.

I'm not sure it's a theory worth entertaining right now, but it is worth to have it in the back of the head.
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Zchinque: I'm not sure it's a theory worth entertaining right now, but it is worth to have it in the back of the head.
That's a good point, too. I considered that, but it sounds a little too desperate to me. But yeah, who knows how scum-nmillar plays.
Hmm... We're kind of in limbo until one of the three of them gets back. -_-

@Bard, I'm not sure I follow... What did you mean by "all of the relevent information" ?
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NotFrenchYet: Hmm... We're kind of in limbo until one of the three of them gets back. -_-

@Bard, I'm not sure I follow... What did you mean by "all of the relevent information" ?
Role name, Role, Alignment, etc. Was a bit woozy when I was typing that out.
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Damnation: Think Red_Baron wants me to prevent him from merging...? :p
Hey, Damnation, you haven't posted since January 12. Isn't there anything you have to say about the nmillar situation?
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bazilisek: Hey, Damnation, you haven't posted since January 12. Isn't there anything you have to say about the nmillar situation?
I know he is/has been preoccupied by exams at the study (we attend the same place), so he haven't checked in lately. He said to me today when I mentioned it that he'll be checking in Friday at the latest, as he would then have had the time to read the posts posted sine his last visit.
My vote for what happens to Orryyrro? I say he gets modkilled. Sure, it seems like an almost unfairly pro-town action, but the fact is that he isn't actually here to defend himself. We cannot possibly make a good decision if he HIMSELF is not here (a replacement doesn't seem like it would help either). It seems wrong to allow that sort of out-of-game situation effect how we use our lynch, since at this point that lynch is holding more and more weight.

So my vote is that he has a stroke and collapses midday. Then we actually have some information to work with, rather than being forced into a certain lynch to keep the game going after outside circumstances brought it to a halt.

About Zchinque's theory about this being an elaborate conspiracy... given that Nmillar's suspicions about Orryyrro were coded into a very early message, it would have to have been something planned from the beginning. I'm not sure how likely that would be, but my gut feeling is that it's probably not the case. Killing one Mafia member to keep another safe seems like quite a gamble on the Mafia's part, when simply nudging the Town's suspicions toward other townies and making strategic use of the night kill would be much less of a gamble (and probably just as effective).
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ViolatorX: (Ping)
If Orry gets modkilled, would there be any flavour with that? Would we get a proper flip?
Its been 3 days since I last posted, hence a post:

I still stand by lynching Orryrro, I believe that would have occurred anyway and we avoid that the mod has to take action + it seems like Orryrro's lurking/disappearance made everyone start lurking away from the game..

But oh well, none doing anything will also lead to a result seeing what X said before.
We've hit a solid brick wall with this game, and I'm thinking we won't get past it without mod intervention. And we have to, unless we lose what little remains of its momentum.

For myself, I'm saying Violator, modkill Orry, please. It doesn't look like he's coming back. I don't really care how you do the modkill, whether we continue the day or not -- you're the mod, that's your call to make. But it has to be done.