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Leucius: Again, I apologize. There was a great war between theists and atheists a few years ago, and I assumed it was still going on. Hence the white flag.
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Telika: Well, there are still little crusaders on both sides. Simply don't assume them to be representatives of a general belief. Don't assume that militant atheists are necessarily supported by atheists (and if they imply so, simply remind them that they're not)...
Agreed. I get pretty heated in the debate but wouldn't want anyone harmed, etc. Never been in a fight, even in school. I'm pretty peaceful other than my getting a bit heated. lol
polytheism is best solution.
yup.
I think this thread was handled pretty well overall.
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Nirth: Isn't there a better word or expression for lack of faith?
It's tricky, in that antonyms are some of the slipperiest of words. Human nature is such that we much prefer to name things over things-which-are-not. To wit, the great delay in many cultures adding a zero to their numerical systems.

I would suggest terms like "empirical", "rational", or "intellectual rigour" as candidates, but each is fraught with its own lexical baggage and is not perfectly opposing either.
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sajin: polytheism is best solution.
Why?
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sajin: polytheism is best solution.
So say we all.
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Nirth: Isn't there a better word or expression for lack of faith?
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IAmSinistar: It's tricky, in that antonyms are some of the slipperiest of words. Human nature is such that we much prefer to name things over things-which-are-not. To wit, the great delay in many cultures adding a zero to their numerical systems.

I would suggest terms like "empirical", "rational", or "intellectual rigour" as candidates, but each is fraught with its own lexical baggage and is not perfectly opposing either.
Yeah, though with rational or any label intellectual, the religious leaders will try to tack those onto their lines of thinking too.
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sajin: polytheism is best solution.
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Nirth: Why?
The easiest way to win Pascal's Wager.
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sajin: polytheism is best solution.
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Nirth: Why?
coolness and practicality

and coolness
Honestly, while I'm too much of an empiricist to be religious (I'm agnostic which is the only truly scientific religious mindset imho), I don't mind the moderately religious who know when to bend the tenets to make room for reality (and/or practicality).

It's the hardliner literal ones that get to me. At some point, there comes a time where some of their tenets just don't work in practice and that's when I start disliking them.

Adapt or die.

I'm not talking about non-consequential stuff like not eating pig, but things like denying scientific findings or public policies that work based on empirical observation because they clash with your tenets.

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Novotnus: But I like gaming :) And my IQ test showed only 124, so I'm 24 points away from Mensa (by polish standards) :)
Why would you ever want to join Mensa? What a bunch of nonsense, wanting a pat on the pack without having to do anything other than being smart.

To my sensibilities, that reeks of complacency.
Post edited January 23, 2014 by Magnitus
I have always believed that if you want to grow as a person, you should speak with people whose beliefs and thoughts are different from yours. Everyone likes the company of those who have similar world views, but it's less fertile to your mind.
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pimpmonkey2382: Ahahah win.
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Telika: Alas it cruelly applies to me too (BUT note the alt text aswell).

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pimpmonkey2382: Thats why there are religious leaders, they can get the people to believe precisely what they want them to.
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Telika: That's not exactly how it works. Many catholics disregard the pope. Religions are very elastic. Without even mentionning collective schisms, and all the evolutions where the leaders were the ones adapting to the crowds, individuals generally use to negociate with the official words on religions.
So I hit "Random" and was humorously surprised to get this particular one ;-p

http://xkcd.com/765/
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hedwards: Oh, come on, just drink the goat's blood, you know you want to. And while we're at it, why don't you help with the sacrifice. We can have a good old fashioned BBQ afterwards.
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iippo: Talking about goats - long-long time agomy little brother used to be allergic to cow milk. We had some friend who had farm and goats and they give him goat milk instead.

So once our milk glasses got mixed and i almost suffocated because of the surprise when i almost drank it empty on one go.

Also, blood pancakes rock (or whatever you call them in english).
Adults shouldn't drink cows milk. It contains the same hormone that our bodies use to stimulate insulin protection as well as the extra that comes from the sugar. It also contains ingredients that promote leaks in the gut, which can lead to various illnesses as things that are supposed to remain in the gut before elimination are allowed to enter the blood stream.

Never had blood pancakes, but I used to eat blood infused tofu when I was in China. Not bad, as long as one isn't scared.
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RaggieRags: I have always believed that if you want to grow as a person, you should speak with people whose beliefs and thoughts are different from yours. Everyone likes the company of those who have similar world views, but it's less fertile to your mind.
This I definitely agree with but like Magnitus said I draw the line when it becomes too much to actually be a reality (like literal bible believers).