Posted March 14, 2020
Pajama
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Posted March 14, 2020
Pajama
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Posted March 14, 2020
Ah right, thanks. The reason that's gone unnoticed for me is that I use Adalia Fundamentals to control my library page and that option doesn't appear.
EDIT: Scrub that - I was looking under the wrong menu. It's there. Blush!
EDIT: Scrub that - I was looking under the wrong menu. It's there. Blush!
Post edited March 14, 2020 by Pajama
timppu
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Posted March 14, 2020
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timppu: LOL no. That is the worst advice ever. How could e.g. Linux users (officially) download their GOG games if the browser option was removed?
Timboli: Think about it a bit more. What then, would the Linux downloaders need?
Timboli: The browser links are b-grade, a stop gap measure for what should have always been available instead.
First of all, GOG Downloader didn't exist in the beginning of the GOG site. I am pretty sure at first the browser downloads were the only way to download GOG games. Second, that is normal on other sites too. E.g. DotEmu offered only browser links to download games, In Humble Bundle they are also the main method, just a couple of days ago I downloaded A.I.M. freebie game from indiegala.com with the browser...
The option to browser downloads is Galaxy.
Cavalary
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Timboli: In any case, the b-grade browser method as it is, should not take precedent over a proper download method.
The browser links ARE the "proper download method". Can use them in any browser (well, any that the site works in, since they decided to severely restrict compatibility) and, as mrkgnao pointed out, also with your download manager of choice if you choose to use one. They should improve how they work, definitely, posting file hashes and offering one-click options for full download of installer files and/or extras in one click straight in browser, but the basic download... system is that one. Anything else is a client, and GOG must never require one (at least for singleplayer I guess, same as it is with connections/DRM, but I'm not aware of games with separate SP and MP installers, so irrelevant). timppu: First of all, GOG Downloader didn't exist in the beginning of the GOG site. I am pretty sure at first the browser downloads were the only way to download GOG games.
Yeah, though admittedly they came up with the Downloader very soon after launch, first asking about it in early Sep 2009. Oddly, the OP of that thread seems to have been mixed up with another, but you can find it quoted in a post. See first mention of the Downloader as being used in Oct, though I gather those were betas, see a mention of a v. 0.9 later. And in that original thread, a post mentioning "Downloader. Final" on Dec 16, 2009, so over a year later.Post edited March 14, 2020 by Cavalary
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Posted March 14, 2020
I won't miss it. Haven't used it in a couple of years anyway. Galaxy does the same work for me, plus it checks if any of my installed games needs updating. I also don't use galaxy for anything other than that, And if some disaster prevents it from working, the browser links are there if need be.
Like others mentioned, i do wish they would flesh out some more the download function, I would have switched to gogrepo if i had any clue about how to work with it.
Like others mentioned, i do wish they would flesh out some more the download function, I would have switched to gogrepo if i had any clue about how to work with it.
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Posted March 14, 2020
Pajama: Ah right, thanks. The reason that's gone unnoticed for me is that I use Adalia Fundamentals to control my library page and that option doesn't appear.
EDIT: Scrub that - I was looking under the wrong menu. It's there. Blush!
If you use AF you even have the option to make downloader links the default - which I did :) EDIT: Scrub that - I was looking under the wrong menu. It's there. Blush!
Lucumo: So, have they started removing GOG Downloader links already? Seems like https://www.gog.com/downloader/listing/neverwinter_nights_diamond_edition doesn't work anymore.
Still working - at least with adalia fundamentals (see attachment). Edit: Accessing the page manually I also get a 404 - so GOG just removed the site and not the actual links. With AF installed you can still use those.
Post edited March 14, 2020 by MarkoH01
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Posted March 14, 2020
So will "Download offline backup game installer" still be there for each game? My gaming PC isn't hooked up to the internet. I'm currently downloading on another computer.
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Posted March 14, 2020
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Posted March 14, 2020
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karnak1: No big trouble, since I admit I never used it myself.
The "final frontier" still remains:
Offline installers for all games must remain available for download And Galaxy client must remain optional for installing and playing games.
ALWAYS!
and The "final frontier" still remains:
Offline installers for all games must remain available for download And Galaxy client must remain optional for installing and playing games.
ALWAYS!
#Q&_^Q&Q#LINK:154#Q&_^Q&Q#
+1 I play games on a computer that is not connected to the interwebz.
+1
So, you don't want Gog to announce anything unpopular?
Sude: […] I really need to make a new release sometime soon so people using "stable" versions of lgogdownloader won't be affected in any way.
Currently version 3.5 still uses old api for --download-file option but this has been changed to galaxy api in git.
I switched the last parts of downloader api usage to galaxy api in a884e8c
And then removed the downloader api and all references to it in 42c7188
and 8829f44 so the current git version uses only galaxy api.
The api for "installing" games (downloading individual game files) doesn't have server side support for Linux at the moment but lgogdownloader should start using without much problems as soon as GOG enables it.
That is if my assumption about the platform name used in the url is correct (using "linux" in url for linux builds)
[…]
You are a champion! Currently version 3.5 still uses old api for --download-file option but this has been changed to galaxy api in git.
I switched the last parts of downloader api usage to galaxy api in a884e8c
And then removed the downloader api and all references to it in 42c7188
and 8829f44 so the current git version uses only galaxy api.
The api for "installing" games (downloading individual game files) doesn't have server side support for Linux at the moment but lgogdownloader should start using without much problems as soon as GOG enables it.
That is if my assumption about the platform name used in the url is correct (using "linux" in url for linux builds)
[…]
shmerl: […] Galaxy is a very overloaded term, and GOG is using it for everything.
1. Galaxy is an HTTP service(s) that allows downloading games from GOG (including individual files for ability of incremental updates).
2. GOG calls their new downloading and updating manager (client) - "Galaxy", it's using #1.
3. Galaxy is also a service for multiplayer features (using UDP as far as I know).
4. Galaxy are client libraries used by GOG games in combination with #3, and they also rely on #1 through #2 for authentication purposes.
[…]
Thank you for the clarification. :) 1. Galaxy is an HTTP service(s) that allows downloading games from GOG (including individual files for ability of incremental updates).
2. GOG calls their new downloading and updating manager (client) - "Galaxy", it's using #1.
3. Galaxy is also a service for multiplayer features (using UDP as far as I know).
4. Galaxy are client libraries used by GOG games in combination with #3, and they also rely on #1 through #2 for authentication purposes.
[…]
I would like to see them linked to the page for each game.
Breja: […] As a sidenote - this is important news to some users. Possibly quite a few users. I don't think GOG's preferred way of delivering important news - an unmarked forum thread - is really the best way to go. Then again the way the site is designed with quickly rotating news at the bottom where no one looks, there migh just not be a good way at all. So, uhm, what I'm getting at is FIX THE WEBSITE, BRING BACK VISABLE NEWS AND FREAKING USE THEM.
+1 mqstout: […] Can GOG contribute to gogrepo at least a ltitle bit? […]
The site overall needs that new catalog/database update -- with collectors editions, base editions, upgrades not cross-marking when owned and whatnot (and tags). People have complained about that (rightly!) since the start. Fix that while I'm on the topic, please?
I'd support that. The site overall needs that new catalog/database update -- with collectors editions, base editions, upgrades not cross-marking when owned and whatnot (and tags). People have complained about that (rightly!) since the start. Fix that while I'm on the topic, please?
Or:
+1
rojimboo: […] the existence of some of these user made 3rd party tools, which are actually quite nice and well made[…] people need to be more aware of them. Now especially.
+1 :)
Lifthrasil: True. So beware, if we complain too much about the forum being broken, GOG might decide to deactivate it completely! ;-)
[…]
I've been expecting it for a while now. […]
HypersomniacLive: […] Well, it's been ages since special characters don't post correctly on game pages, and it's been pointed out a good amount of time. So... the GOG cure for that would be to deactivate game pages, no?
Or make a new version that is not backwardly compatible with any extant automated process …. Dalthnock: […] If people have an opinion, why not argue in good faith, instead of just clicking buttons?
I don't care about the reputation, but I would like to know if the clicker had something to add. Communication is a wonderful thing. Silent judgment... not so much.
+1 I don't care about the reputation, but I would like to know if the clicker had something to add. Communication is a wonderful thing. Silent judgment... not so much.
Fortunately it is not an option to remove a default FTL process within a web browser.
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Posted March 14, 2020
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MarkoH01: Once again GOG is showing how good they are at communication and how much they are trying to keep connection with the community. Exactly ZERO blue post in a thread that has now 6 pages and therefore shows that the decision they made at least is not without any controversy. Great work GOG .... not exactly the way we told you how top do it in 2017(!) but if you think your way is better just go ahead. But please stop trying to pretend that you actually care about your community's opinion if you don't even take the time to answer some of the most basic questions asked here. [...]
Please tell me that you didn't actually expect any blue text to show up after the initial announcement to add even a single word? When GOG first announced its plans for the GOG Galaxy client, a number of us were interested, and repeatedly asked if they'd make it modular, so those not interested in the social/whatever else features but were happy with the way the GOG Downloader worked, could switch over after the discontinuation of the latter. They never acknowledged, let alone answered, those inquires. And as the future showed, they didn't make it modular. I don't know if they even tried and for whatever (business?) reason decided against it, but from my experience they don't seem to have the skill to actually pull it off successfully.
Post edited March 14, 2020 by HypersomniacLive
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timppu: GOG Downloader is not "another method". It is just one more additional client to download the offline installers, on top of Galaxy, web browsers and the existing third-party tools (like gogrepo.py and lgogdownloader).
With the restriction that the 3rd party tools are not supported by GOG in any way. We still even wait for any documentation from GOG about the Galaxy protocol. The removal of the downloader support might be a good reason to vote for publishing the Galaxy protocol to support the 3rd party clients. Looking at the web site and their Linux support it's more like Steam 0.5, at best. ;P
Or even decide to fix it. I'm not sure what scares me more. ;)
Post edited March 15, 2020 by eiii
timppu
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Posted March 15, 2020
I mentioned earlier I would like GOG to offer an option for p2p protocol in e.g. Galaxy.
Now that I think about it... couldn't GOG offer it already in their web site, just like Humble Store has done for years? So on each game download page, there is an optional torrent link that you can use too.
It could even be that torrent link contains all the installer files in one torrent (maybe two separate torrent links, one for the installer files and another for the extras), so that would take care of the request for one-click downloads. (However, something that might complicate that is how you get more download links to your game download page based on what DLCs or soundtracks you have bought separately; not sure how that could be handled, can the torrent link be "dynamic" so that it understand which files to include in the torrent, based on what you have purchased? In the worst case, each purchased DLC package would have a separate torrent link, I guess.).
Also, for people who complain they constantly get corrupted downloads with a web browser due to shitty internets, the bittorrent protocol takes care of that, making sure the data integrity is fine.
The only downside would be that you'd have to have a separate bittorrent client installed and running on your system (just like with those Humble Bundle torrent links), but on the other hand then you could freely choose which bittorrent client to use, just like you can choose which browser to use. And of course for people who have data caps or pay per megabyte, uploading to others is not preferable.
Even GOG would benefit from this as it would take some of the load off of the GOG download servers.
Now that I think about it... couldn't GOG offer it already in their web site, just like Humble Store has done for years? So on each game download page, there is an optional torrent link that you can use too.
It could even be that torrent link contains all the installer files in one torrent (maybe two separate torrent links, one for the installer files and another for the extras), so that would take care of the request for one-click downloads. (However, something that might complicate that is how you get more download links to your game download page based on what DLCs or soundtracks you have bought separately; not sure how that could be handled, can the torrent link be "dynamic" so that it understand which files to include in the torrent, based on what you have purchased? In the worst case, each purchased DLC package would have a separate torrent link, I guess.).
Also, for people who complain they constantly get corrupted downloads with a web browser due to shitty internets, the bittorrent protocol takes care of that, making sure the data integrity is fine.
The only downside would be that you'd have to have a separate bittorrent client installed and running on your system (just like with those Humble Bundle torrent links), but on the other hand then you could freely choose which bittorrent client to use, just like you can choose which browser to use. And of course for people who have data caps or pay per megabyte, uploading to others is not preferable.
Even GOG would benefit from this as it would take some of the load off of the GOG download servers.
Post edited March 15, 2020 by timppu