Let me name thy ways:
• The library/DLL required to update it doesn't exist anymore.
• There's no way to update it without completely rewriting it.
• The last person who worked on it left X years ago and the source code is obfuscated/nonexistant.
• It relies on some technology or feature that is no longer kosher.
• Some major flaw/bug was discovered that leads back to my third point.
• Given that it was discontinued 5 years ago, they saw the downflow of use and so decided the server space would be better used for other things.
• It requires some now expired software license/and or relies on something that doesn't exist anymore. (See also 1)

Note to all....I am not talking specifically about the person this user was quoting, and am just venting.....please do not try to take it personally....that said:
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I get why you're doing this, and have to give you props for doing so, but why do you even bother? :|

Yes, some will see reason and realize this is a lost cause(at least the way it's being "fought for" currently with wishlist votes and forum posts), but some others won't and will just keep posting about their dislike of it until they calm down & go back to business as usual....that is until something else upsets them again.

Thing is, some of those same people will praise GOG when we get new old games, added features, the amazingly generous refund policy, etc.....then flip their stance around when GOG does one small** thing again they dislike.....those few essentially are mainly loyal to whomever gives them what they want and only seemingly stay loyal while they get what they want.

But at least some of those few wise up and actually not buy or leave(as they say they will/said they would) over such things or post a bit then drop it.....a smaller few(yet non zero) number of those stick around and "complain" in post after post about it....saying they will leave while not doing so, and also usually saying that company X or Y owes the "substantial amount of customers" thing/feature A or B.

Now it's not like I don't care about any of them.....it's how some of them are ACTING over this that I dislike.

Of all those bringing this up and wanting GOG DLer back, do you know who I DO support? Those who follow the proper channels or use better methods to get what they want done & who do so while acting like mature adults about it, or people who actually try to help those asking for such(lIke Timboli is doing...he has my respect and admiration for what he's trying to do to help people at the very least).

But sadly not everyone can be mature about such things and more and more(in life in general) seem to think everyone/every company owes them something "because they simply deserve such" or should give such to them "just because it's the right thing to do"....as if companies are their family or owe them anything but a good/working product/service for a fair price.
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(**=Small in the "grand scheme of things, I mean)

Fairfox can and has likely trolled everyone on the forums before, but this post(while very crude to some) has some truth to it this time.

People had 5 years(or less in some cases) to find alternatives/prepare for this, and some chose not to worry about it or bother....to me that seems a bit unwise, at the very least.

Well in a way it it is our money, we give it to them in exchange for a product. And of course they have to make decisions on best to maintain that product /service. I do not dispute that, however, they also haven't said more details of why it is necessary to remove it. If they said "you know it takes a lot due to _____ and ____ and not to mention this ________ which makes it hard to keep GOG downloader going these days..." If they did, I think a lot of us would not mind as much. Sure it still wouldn't be the same but communication goes a long way with your customers regardless.

As for browser downloads, no I didn't forget that. I mentioned it before, and using browser basied downloaders with them to try and fill in the gap the removal of GOG downloader has left. As for WHY bandwidth limiting is a show-stopper, not all of us have a lot of bandwidth and can't just throw everything we have at a download. It has to be slowed down and after a day or more (sometimes many) we get the download done. Otherwise you can't do ANYTHING else online for days. Hence the phrase "show-stopper". :)

In the end I finally did find something that will work: Xtreme download manager https://sourceforge.net/projects/xdman/ it is open source, has all the features I mentioned and then some. It also will hook via addons into most browsers to make it easier. Now, pesonally, if I was GOG and had to remove this I would have offered suggestions to my customers to fill in the gap left by removing said downloader. It sure would go a long ways with ones customers. Otherwise it just leaves a bad taste in ones mouth when it sure doens't seem like they /needed/ to. I had to spend over a day and a half to find something that worked well. I'm glad I did, but still why couldn't GOG offer a few suggestions for those that needed the features GOG Downloaded provided? They suggest a open source FTP at times for different reasons. Seems like this should be similar situation.

With some it does, but there are likely some for whom even a non-pr sounding reply would likely not be enough.

Because of that and GOG seemingly "buttoning it's lip" after a few social media incidents/bad PR, they likely don't want to issue such a statement(the higher ups, that is....some of the lower level staffers might know more but might be told not to tell anyone anything to keep working there).

I know a few have such issues & I sympathize with them...they actually need such tools/etc for various reasons, unlike some others who voiced their concerns in not so nice ways.

First off, i'm glad you found a working alternative. :)

That said, I agree 100%....GOG could've spent more time listing possible alternates, answering posts, etc.

As said above, management has changed a bit over the years and they focus more on keeping quiet/saying as little as possible as well as other changes....some good and some not so good.

I agree(as also said above), though.....a little more help/communication is the least they could do.

I'll be honest, I didn't even know this feature existed.

What about my games and where they are currently installed? I see I was one to use the GOG Downloader. Anyway also I beta used the GOG Galaxy thing but anyway just want an answer to what I asked. I don't want things taking up double amounts of space.

Yes the least they could do is say "hey guys, we know a bunch of you love the GOG Downloader, but due to problems with it and our system, they just don't play nice any more and we need to remove it. But we have a few alteratives for you so you can get the same functionatlity while downloading from the download links. Here try __________ and ________ or maybe _______________." Seems like that would have the best way to go about it. But hey I guess I am thinking of the old GOG not the current one. :(

Well not surprised you hadn't heard of it., they haven't even mentioned it for 5 years. But many of us depended on it since we needed the ability to throttle the download speed and resume if we had to stop it for whatever reason. Sure for some games they were small enough no issue. But when it gets to be many gig's that changes things with those that have smalllllll bandwidth.
They should be fine. If you didn't install with Galaxy, they won't magcially be added to it. Although they *might* show up as installed on Galaxy. But they are no way dependant upon it. You can leave them as it is, and download/install with Galaxy if you like (or it even works well for you). OR just use a different tool to make downloading via the website links easier like Xtreme download manager. Open source and is on sourceforge.

They could do that, but the new management style seems to be "speak in PR speak"/don't say much.....so even if they were allowed to say something like that it'd likely be in PR speak. :\

And that's the thing.....the ones who might want to cannot likely post such(akin to actors reading from a script for a film directed/produced by sticklers for staying on script), and the higher ups who have more freedom likely feel that's the best way to do things(for some unknown reason...maybe due to the social media "problems" they had).

(i.e. the lower workers might want to but are not allowed to, and the ones who can likely don't want to)

(Addition: They also might not want to be legally liable if they suggest an alternative and it messes up someone's PC/etc)

Most companies sadly go that route....they slowly listen to stock holders and focus groups and other such people more and more over time, for various reasons....not nice to see or experience for some, but it still happens.

Hold up a second :)

You were bickering back and forth with me when I said the official reasoning was wanting. You were alleging how people like me are set in our ways and "wouldn't accept any answer", yet now you're claiming the offered reasoning around here is "PR speak" at best. Doesn't that kind of solve the problem? Most of us would surely accept an honest answer not drenched in PR speak. But if they only speak in PR speak, then I guess both of us are "right" to an extent, though it's more a matter of all parties talking past one another.

One of the reasons I buy games on GOG is not having to install any clients. I had decent transfer speeds with gog downloader and downloads through browser are painfully slow and often end up with errors. I'm trying to download a game right now and I get 200 KB/s on a 350 megabit connection which is a joke. With gog donwloader I usually got at least a few megabytes per second. You guys should really do something about it.

GOGdammit, ok I'll download Disco Elysium in pieces then,
had I noticed this sooner I'd have gotten it from steam.

Please vote for the downloader bring back in the suggestion section. Soon we have 500+ supporters.

So you want to avoid using a client by going to a platform.... that has a mandatory client......

You could just use Galaxy to download the game, then turn of Galaxy and run the game exe. Thus you don't have a client always on in the background.

Who said I have issue with the Downloader? Though I will admit I ran into a number of problems with the downloader when I usedit such as dropped downloads, corrupt files, and random restarts so it was far from perfect.