Thanks. No need to apologize, though I appreciate the intent. Even if "calling me" brings negative attention to me, I chose to participate in this public forum and will deal with it I guess. Like you when I post in this thread I know what I'm getting into. And you are right I sometimes try to jump in quixotically when I think things are going off track.
If it was not clear earlier, I respect your desire for justice and protecting the "weak". I disagree with some (who am I kidding... with a lot) of it as it relates to disincentivizing individual responsibilty - a common difference of opinion between let's say libertarians and socialists. I never lose sight of the fact that this protective instinct of ours is always and inherently paternalistic, whereas my judgement is you (and socialists in general) believe the authoritarianism can be easily divorced from the intent.
And I do think you turn a blind eye to similar dynamics on your side. I can bring a very personal example up and remind you I was softly mobbed and then banned in a certain forum for trying to point how a news article was similarly a hit piece - better documented surely, but equally lying by omission and with a clear framing intent to demonize someone by the reporter - in fact if instead of a reporter it would have been law enforcement involved some of the actions I recall would border on entrapment. But that's old news, I'm just trying to shock you into broadening perspectives.
As to GG involvement in this topic, don't mistake my questions for a statement of purity of GG. Need I remind you I often pointed out I do not consder myself part of GG? Heck, if there was one thing that personally made me almost join the movement was the aforementioned ban. I mean why suffer the consequences in reputation without any of the benefits? I am nothing if not a "rational agent" in economic terms.
Anyway I am certain there are some linkages between GG and harassment in this particular, but how relevant they are I certainly wonder. For example I think you see hate where more charitably there is rather fear and you see coordination where there is only emergence. Let me point out for example, that as a consequence of that same post of mine Leonardo admitted his motivation. And rather than malice it was clearly distrust. Your honest opinion if the demonization of gamer identity contributed to that trust gap? Hmmm?
To your credit, in more ingroupy places like the abovementioned forum, I see you sometimes trying to point out to others tha they are suffering from some of these same issues of unwarranted demonization of enemies, of confirmation bias, etc... which is why I shifted attitudes to you somewhat by the way... I mean, can you imagine the minds blown over here, if I were to post some of the critiques (too charitable IMO but still critiques) I saw you make about FF?
As to you and me personally, to round out this rapprochement. In this occasion I don't see you gloating, but I recall occasions where I am very sure you were gleeful and it was very, very offputting. I'm not perfect and neither are you, and I believe I have more recently cooled off somewhat towards you and tried to at least be positive when I see the opportunity. At some cost might I add, some friends of mine dislike you more than me let's say - and not without reason IMO - and as usual my trying to be in the middle, fair and true to myself and how I see things only gets me more isolated, whereas obviously what I desire is the opposite.
Over and out.