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LeonardoCornejo: Another girl I had a crush on was brainwashed into believeing my interest in her, which I tried to conceal, was harassment. How? She was an avid reade of Buzzfeed.
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stoicsentry: I was just reading an article on one of those SJW sites a couple of days ago. It wasn't really about SJWism, it was about some stupid celebrity topic. But they sorta casually threw a line in there about how any time you flirt with a stranger, you're guilty of sexual harassment because you're "imposing on their time and space without permission" or something like that.

It wasn't "if you keep flirting despite being told that the party is not interested," it wasn't, "if you flirt with a stranger in a place where a stranger's presence might be frightening (e.g. a dark alley at night), no. It was all flirting period.

And of course they connect sexual harassment with support of rape. Which means that if you wink at a stranger, you're basically a rapist.

I mean... come on...
You know even persistent courting should not be held as harassment. I was born thanks to persistence. My grandfather courted my grandmother until seh noticed him, and my mother was very persistent with my father.
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stoicsentry: I was just reading an article on one of those SJW sites a couple of days ago. It wasn't really about SJWism, it was about some stupid celebrity topic. But they sorta casually threw a line in there about how any time you flirt with a stranger, you're guilty of sexual harassment because you're "imposing on their time and space without permission" or something like that.

It wasn't "if you keep flirting despite being told that the party is not interested," it wasn't, "if you flirt with a stranger in a place where a stranger's presence might be frightening (e.g. a dark alley at night), no. It was all flirting period.

And of course they connect sexual harassment with support of rape. Which means that if you wink at a stranger, you're basically a rapist.

I mean... come on...
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LeonardoCornejo: You know even persistent courting should not be held as harassment. I was born thanks to persistence. My grandfather courted my grandmother until seh noticed him, and my mother was very persistent with my father.
"Persistent courting" is the definition of harassment, regardless of the outcome. Yes, sometimes harassing someone will get you what you want. That doesn't make it a good idea or an acceptable behavior.
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TStael: I admit I cannot read you, be you ironic or not - because I have no Japanese friends thus far. My other best gal-pal is Taiwanese, and she grabbed me a Hibiki whisky by Santori for a gift back home. It's pretty lovely.

And the year before, she landed with her dad to Tokyo airport during the snow-storm, and ever remembers the taxi driver that skidded and slowed down to get them in-town in six hours total. She was in total admiration.

She still remembers this taxi driver, and admires him. With her I go. Just enjoy your gaming YaTEdiGo. If the immersion is good, and you are kind to others - well done, really.
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YaTEdiGo: Thank you for your kind words! I wasn't ironic, I found your words right.

Japan is awesome, but I do not live there but I visit it from time to time, I also remember a Japanese Taxi Driver that discounted me tons of money in a night I was lost in Chiba.
And my best gal-pal, whom brought me Hibiki whisky on her way back home from Taiwan still very much remembers in an admiring way a Tokyo taxi driver whom accepted to drive her, and her dad, from the airport into town one year past, during that snow storm.

She said it took a few hours - after they already queued for a taxi for a few because of the blizzard- yet the taxi driver apologized for it having taken so long. When she was very thankful someone accepted the fare.

So there.

Hope you would feel cool about your gaming going fwd - casual, hard-core or what not. Only when you state "Japan" I assume you are from there. And that you could be that taxi driver my friend remembers admiringly year plus on...



Edit: spelling. "show" to "snow".
Post edited March 23, 2016 by TStael
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LeonardoCornejo: You know even persistent courting should not be held as harassment. I was born thanks to persistence. My grandfather courted my grandmother until seh noticed him, and my mother was very persistent with my father.
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Keldroc: "Persistent courting" is the definition of harassment, regardless of the outcome. Yes, sometimes harassing someone will get you what you want. That doesn't make it a good idea or an acceptable behavior.
If I accepted what you say it would imply that my whole life is the product of wrong doing and that there was no love between my relatives. There is a thin line between both, but are not the same. Refusing to give up and being creepy are not the same.
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YaTEdiGo: Thank you for your kind words! I wasn't ironic, I found your words right.

Japan is awesome, but I do not live there but I visit it from time to time, I also remember a Japanese Taxi Driver that discounted me tons of money in a night I was lost in Chiba.

I can understand people being pissed off to see some of their favorite games "casualized" , but yeah, I cannot understand who hates Casual Gaming in general.
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LeonardoCornejo: Well, I don't hate casual gaming or those who play casual games in general. What bothers me is the stance of the corrupt gaming media on them. The fact that they believe they can make up statistics to claim that even soccer moms are gamers now just because they play candi crush while they pick little Jimmy and Clara from their sports match (Performing the incredible feat of being in two places at the same time), and that hardcore devs should catter to the casual demographic by reducing challenge or some other thing. Sorry, but in fact, soccermoms are not even interested in Dark Souls. It also bothers me when casual gamers try to get into hardcore games (Again as exampe Drk Souls) and they fail, but in stead of trying again until thye succeed or leaving without making a big deal of not being good at a game know for being hell on earth, they complain about the difficulty and say it is unfair. I know most casual gamers don't do that, but those who do are annoying and mke a lot of noise which leds to corrupt journos to claim their views are validated.
But that is because create opinion, creates a market, in which part like 34 pages ago you guys didnt read that all this is about open the market for make more money? Do you guys believe there is any problem of "SOCIAL RIGHTS" on VIDEOGAMES? ON VIRTUAL WORLDS? THE SAME PEOPLE THAT SAYS "HEY NOT EVERY RELIGIOUS PERSON IS THE SAME" APPROVING PATRIARCHAL RELIGIONS BUT LATER MAKE A BIG DEAL OF THE ASS OF A SUPERHERO WOMAN AND PUT EVERY SINGLE GUY AND GIRL IN GAMERGATE AS DANGEROUS AND PERNICIOUS?

IS LIKE THE CIGARRETE THING IN THE 30s, "THE TORCHS OF FREEDOM" https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2012/02/27/torches-of-freedom-women-and-smoking-propaganda/ is about MAKE WOMEN CONSUME VIDEOGAMES! is about MONEY!
Post edited March 23, 2016 by YaTEdiGo
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LeonardoCornejo: You know even persistent courting should not be held as harassment. I was born thanks to persistence. My grandfather courted my grandmother until seh noticed him, and my mother was very persistent with my father.
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Keldroc: "Persistent courting" is the definition of harassment, regardless of the outcome. Yes, sometimes harassing someone will get you what you want. That doesn't make it a good idea or an acceptable behavior.
By your logic, All my teachers and parents are harassing me, regardless of the outcome.

I find studying very consuming and listening to their advice hurts my pride. I don't want that if I can help it, but because of their "harassment" I become a better person and able to make myself a better life.
This week in #GG : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUnu5oDkSS0
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LeonardoCornejo: You know even persistent courting should not be held as harassment. I was born thanks to persistence. My grandfather courted my grandmother until seh noticed him, and my mother was very persistent with my father.
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Keldroc: "Persistent courting" is the definition of harassment, regardless of the outcome. Yes, sometimes harassing someone will get you what you want. That doesn't make it a good idea or an acceptable behavior.
That is not the definition of harassment. Turns out it's not even close. Did you even look it up before typing that out?

Here's a legal definition:

harassment

(either harris-meant or huh-rass-meant) n. the act of systematic and/or continued unwanted and annoying actions of one party or a group, including threats and demands. The purposes may vary, including racial prejudice, personal malice, an attempt to force someone to quit a job or grant sexual favors, apply illegal pressure to collect a bill, or merely gain sadistic pleasure from making someone fearful or anxious. Such activities may be the basis for a lawsuit if due to discrimination based on race or sex, a violation on the statutory limitations on collection agencies, involve revenge by an ex-spouse, or be shown to be a form of blackmail ("I'll stop bothering you, if you'll go to bed with me"). The victim may file a petition for a "stay away" (restraining) order, intended to prevent contact by the offensive party. A systematic pattern of harassment by an employee against another worker may subject the employer to a lawsuit for failure to protect the worker.

Here's a free dictionary definition:

ha·rass (hə-răs′, hăr′əs)
tr.v. ha·rassed, ha·rass·ing, ha·rass·es
1. To subject (another) to hostile or prejudicial remarks or actions; pressure or intimidate.
2. To irritate or torment persistently: His mind was harassed by doubts and misgivings.
3. To make repeated attacks or raids on (an enemy, for example).

ha•rass•ment (həˈræs mənt, ˈhær əs-)
n.
1. the act of harassing.
2. the fact of being harassed.

Here's a Miriam-Webster definition:

Full Definition of harass

transitive verb

1
a : exhaust, fatigue b (1) : to annoy persistently (2) : to create an unpleasant or hostile situation for especially by uninvited and unwelcome verbal or physical conduct

2
: to worry and impede by repeated raids <harassed the enemy>

Here's a Vocabulary definition:

Harassment
1 the act of tormenting by continued persistent attacks and criticism
2 a feeling of intense annoyance caused by being tormented
Post edited March 23, 2016 by Dessembrae_
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Keldroc: "Persistent courting" is the definition of harassment, regardless of the outcome.
Such a romantic...

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LeonardoCornejo: After she freindzoned me things got a bit complicated, but I managed to heal the friendship with time, wisdom, friends, and the magic of webcomics and My Little Pony.
*continues chewing gum*
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Keldroc: "Persistent courting" is the definition of harassment, regardless of the outcome.
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Hammer49: Such a romantic...

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LeonardoCornejo: After she freindzoned me things got a bit complicated, but I managed to heal the friendship with time, wisdom, friends, and the magic of webcomics and My Little Pony.
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Hammer49: *continues chewing gum*
I bet that gum lost it's taste a long time ago if you have been chewing it since the inception of this thread.
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Keldroc: "Persistent courting" is the definition of harassment, regardless of the outcome. Yes, sometimes harassing someone will get you what you want. That doesn't make it a good idea or an acceptable behavior.
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Dessembrae_: That is not the definition of harassment. Turns out it's not even close. Did you even look it up before typing that out?

Here's a legal definition:

harassment

(either harris-meant or huh-rass-meant) n. the act of systematic and/or continued unwanted and annoying actions of one party or a group, including threats and demands. The purposes may vary, including racial prejudice, personal malice, an attempt to force someone to quit a job or grant sexual favors, apply illegal pressure to collect a bill, or merely gain sadistic pleasure from making someone fearful or anxious. Such activities may be the basis for a lawsuit if due to discrimination based on race or sex, a violation on the statutory limitations on collection agencies, involve revenge by an ex-spouse, or be shown to be a form of blackmail ("I'll stop bothering you, if you'll go to bed with me"). The victim may file a petition for a "stay away" (restraining) order, intended to prevent contact by the offensive party. A systematic pattern of harassment by an employee against another worker may subject the employer to a lawsuit for failure to protect the worker.

Here's a free dictionary definition:

ha·rass (hə-răs′, hăr′əs)
tr.v. ha·rassed, ha·rass·ing, ha·rass·es
1. To subject (another) to hostile or prejudicial remarks or actions; pressure or intimidate.
2. To irritate or torment persistently: His mind was harassed by doubts and misgivings.
3. To make repeated attacks or raids on (an enemy, for example).

ha•rass•ment (həˈræs mənt, ˈhær əs-)
n.
1. the act of harassing.
2. the fact of being harassed.

Here's a Miriam-Webster definition:

Full Definition of harass

transitive verb

1
a : exhaust, fatigue b (1) : to annoy persistently (2) : to create an unpleasant or hostile situation for especially by uninvited and unwelcome verbal or physical conduct

2
: to worry and impede by repeated raids <harassed the enemy>

Here's a Vocabulary definition:

Harassment
1 the act of tormenting by continued persistent attacks and criticism
2 a feeling of intense annoyance caused by being tormented
So basically by that definition many SJW are Harassers
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Dessembrae_: That is not the definition of harassment. Turns out it's not even close. Did you even look it up before typing that out?
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YaTEdiGo: So basically by that definition many SJW are Harassers
You get a free pass if you can show your SJW membership card.
I cant believe my joke GOG mix reached 26 votes. At least 26 persons like it. And since some of the games on that mix are listed on few others, it is very easy to track it and update it.
Kunkel awards for game journalism reveals winners ; http://www.spj.org/kunkel-winners.asp
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Keldroc: "Persistent courting" is the definition of harassment, regardless of the outcome. Yes, sometimes harassing someone will get you what you want. That doesn't make it a good idea or an acceptable behavior.
and what about puppeting/manipulating target's friends so they act as your personal army to speak to target on your behalf anddrive target into dating you ?

doest it falls in what you call either "persistent courting" or "harassement" ?

i ask about it to such an expert as you are, as i felt victim for such trick because of someone who tricked my friends into pressuring me to date this someone
i dont call that harassement, i call that sick and disgusting selfish manipulating scam ! and i only figured out the whole stuff afterwards
what should i ever expect from soneone that is ready to go that far to chase after personal little selfish delusion dreams/fantasy/wants ? (without second thought to the target except for reducing it to a simple object or token of one's own fantasies)

since then i never let anyone getting close to me in fear of being tricked a second time because as the saying goes, "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me"
since last two decades i had been fortifying my life against any intrusion or siege attempt and now i accepted the idea of dying alone and unmissed. Because it's too late to undo it and go backwards.

don't BS me with your little "persistent courting is rape" thing ok ?