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At this stage GoG are acting like any dying company would. Popular games aren't judged for their potential sales, but for their potential download amount from GoG's servers.

Who would want to list their game with a dying company anyway.

[Modded. Refrain from such blatant namecalling in the future.]
Post edited July 21, 2022 by Clownski_
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We are giving it another go.

Remember to vote and comment here to potentially increase our odds of getting Selaco on GOG. Remember be kind and civil <3

https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/selaco

Will keep you posted!
Post edited January 17, 2023 by Wesley_de_Waart
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Wesley_de_Waart: We are giving it another go.

Remember to vote and comment here to potentially increase our odds of getting Selaco on GOG. Remember be kind and civil <3

https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/selaco

Will keep you posted!
Cheers, hope GoG is going to reward that level of perseverance this time around.
Although I could see them passing on it again because, for some reason they only want to release the finished thing.

Like there's a quota or limit for throwback old-school FPS' to release as "in development" on GoG that has been reached.
Post edited January 17, 2023 by Swedrami
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Wesley_de_Waart: We are giving it another go.
*cross fingers, legs, arms, and eyes* ;)

I already voted for it long ago, but added a comment just in case. Honestly, I still can't see why GOG has been mum about this, especially since other GZDoom-based games are here already: Hedon and Hands of Necromancy. The latter was just recently added, too. Just going by the demo, Selaco already seems to have way more polish than most.
I hope things will work out this time around, because the lack of responsiveness on GOG's part is absurd.
You wouldn't consider people using the wishlist as putting "peer pressure" on GOG? Peer pressure is something you weren't behind when "a whole flood of users" (3 or 4) people asked for a DRM-free release on your Discord server. The game has a lot more than 4 votes.
One day GOG might notice the game, most probably after the release on Steam or maybe after some staff rotation at GOG Curation Team.

I can't wait to play the game.
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Wesley_de_Waart: We are giving it another go.
Best of luck Wesley, I hope it works out!
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Wesley_de_Waart: We are giving it another go.
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P-E-S: *cross fingers, legs, arms, and eyes* ;)

I already voted for it long ago, but added a comment just in case. Honestly, I still can't see why GOG has been mum about this, especially since other GZDoom-based games are here already: Hedon and Hands of Necromancy. The latter was just recently added, too. Just going by the demo, Selaco already seems to have way more polish than most.
Thank you! <3
I mentioned your game in the gog survey, don't know if that'll help, but it might. :)

Best of luck, I hope gog responds this time.
It will be fine. We just need to wait for the curation guy to sober up.
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DoomSooth: You wouldn't consider people using the wishlist as putting "peer pressure" on GOG? Peer pressure is something you weren't behind when "a whole flood of users" (3 or 4) people asked for a DRM-free release on your Discord server. The game has a lot more than 4 votes.
Awful comparison. There is a huge difference between using a Community Wishlist feature / comment section in a civilized manner, and raiding a small Discord server where people just want to hang out and have a casual chat about things. I don't like to think of this as 'peer pressure', but rather just to prove to GOG that people are interested in this and that it's worth considering us for their store page! We're not here to cause trouble and we want to avoid that as all costs.

When the first Zoom user arrived on the Selaco Server asking for a Zoom Platform version, I responded with (paraphrased) ''We will explore other options besides Steam in the future''. The question was answered. However, people in the Zoom Discord server we're asking other server members to join the Selaco Server and ask for a Zoom version to pressure us into doing it, despite already having answered that question making it rather pointless. At the time, we were just a handful of people juggling multiple jobs around working really hard to make progress on Selaco (this was before some of us started working on this game full-time), so the whole Discord thing was rather frustrating since our time was already limited to begin with. The "3 or 4 people" you mentioned is a blatant lie. It even reached the point where someone associated with Zoom messaged me directly to ask what was going on. How poorly the whole thing was handled gave me a very sour aftertaste of the Zoom community, but I'm sure if was just a vocal minority.

See the difference here? One is invasive, the other is simply raising a voice using a feature that does not bother anyone.
Post edited January 17, 2023 by Wesley_de_Waart
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DoomSooth: You wouldn't consider people using the wishlist as putting "peer pressure" on GOG? Peer pressure is something you weren't behind when "a whole flood of users" (3 or 4) people asked for a DRM-free release on your Discord server. The game has a lot more than 4 votes.
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Wesley_de_Waart: Awful comparison. There is a huge difference between using a Community Wishlist feature / comment section in a civilized manner, and raiding a small Discord server where people just want to hang out and have a casual chat about things. I don't like to think of this as 'peer pressure', but rather just to prove to GOG that people are interested in this and that it's worth considering us for their store page! We're not here to cause trouble and we want to avoid that as all costs.

When the first Zoom user arrived on the Selaco Server asking for a Zoom Platform version, I responded with (paraphrased) ''We will explore other options besides Steam in the future''. The question was answered. However, people in the Zoom Discord server we're asking other server members to join the Selaco Server and ask for a Zoom version to pressure us into doing it, despite already having answered that question making it rather pointless. At the time, we were just a handful of people juggling multiple jobs around working really hard to make progress on Selaco (this was before some of us started working on this game full-time), so the whole Discord thing was rather frustrating since our time was already limited to begin with. The "3 or 4 people" you mentioned is a blatant lie. It even reached the point where someone associated with Zoom messaged me directly to ask what was going on. How poorly the whole thing was handled gave me a very sour aftertaste of the Zoom community, but I'm sure if was just a vocal minority.

See the difference here? One is invasive, the other is simply raising a voice using a feature that does not bother anyone.
Three or four people is not a "raid". It wasn't "a whole flood" of users, because the server you're talking about didn't have that many active users, at the time. Nobody was asked to "raid" you. A request was added in the requests channel to enquire about a possible release, so that's why one of the staff approached you. All of the users there did what they did of their own accord. There was no "raid". You don't want to sell there? That's your decision, but don't make it out to be way more than it was. You asked the users to stop asking you for the game and they did. To say that you were "raided" is melodramatic. They only expressed interest in your game. If anyone was rude about it then I'm not aware of it.

In any case, I bet you wouldn't have minded if you had been "raided" by Steam or any other users about it. Just so you know, I wasn't one of the people that requested the game, and I'm not affiliated with any stores.
Post edited January 17, 2023 by DoomSooth
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Wesley_de_Waart: I responded with (paraphrased) ''We will explore other options besides Steam in the future''. The question was answered.
That second quoted sentence is a non-sequitur in relation to the first quoted sentence.

The answer you provided was actually a "non-answer answer," and therefore the question was not actually answered.

Note: I'm not necessarily endorsing the behavior of Zoom advocates going to your server to ask the question again; but that's a different matter than the point I'm making, which is simply that a non-answer answer is not actually an answer.

It's better to give very transparent and honest and forthright real answer answers, which don't have any semblance of PR Speak to them, which the quoted statements at the start of this post heavily do. Consumers don't like PR-speak BS.
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Wesley_de_Waart: We are giving it another go.

Remember to vote and comment here to potentially increase our odds of getting Selaco on GOG. Remember be kind and civil <3

https://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/selaco

Will keep you posted!
Voted ages ago, If GOG reject this now, they are unsavagably mad.