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Posted October 01, 2015
FPS Immortals are here.

Quake II: Quad Damage, Quake III: Gold, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Wolfenstein 3D and Spear of Destiny - are available now, DRM-free on GOG.com. You can pick them up at 33% off in two bundles:
<span class="bold">Quake Damage</span> & <span class="bold">Return to Wolfenstein</span>.





Wolfenstein 3D (with Spear of Destiny) is widely considered to be the first true 3D FPS ever. It single handedly kickstarted a generation of id Software greats, and thus influenced just about every FPS we've played ever since. Its mazes, shades of gray, and blue hues are burned into the collective gaming memory - plus you get to kill a mechanized Hitler. Classic.
In the early days of FPS gaming, Quake II: Quad Damage was the milestone. In a spot-on review from 1997, GameSpot calls it "the only first-person shooter to render the original Quake entirely obsolete." It was bigger, better, prettier, and smoother than any clone or predecessor - it also offered one of the most playable, and by far most popular multiplayer experiences of its day.
Quake III: Gold, aka. multiplayer revolution. Despite a controversial removal of the lauded single-player experience the series was known for, Quake III: Arena became a smash-hit and (together with Unreal Tournament) essentially defined arena-style, movement-based competitive gaming for years. The shooter spawned a community that's been living and breathing to this day.
In B.J. Blazkowicz's Return to Castle Wolfenstein, another legend is born. A unique, objective-based multiplayer mode saw immense popularity back in the day - and it was actually pretty okay if you're into that sort of thing. The single-player campaign is a dark, somewhat ridiculous freak show of morbid, scientific fantasy. An ever present sense of dread emanates from the disturbing experiments and cult-like universe, just waiting to be set afire - by you.


As with any Bethesda purchase, you'll also get The Elder Scrolls: Arena & Daggerfall for free!


Prepare to fight in Quake II: Quad Damage, Quake III: Gold, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Wolfenstein 3D and Spear of Destiny - now DRM-free on GOG.com. Return to the FPS immortals at 33% off in two bundles: <span class="bold">Quake Damage</span> & <span class="bold">Return to Wolfenstein</span>. The promo will last for one week, until October 8, 12:59 PM GMT.



The four titles released today are not available for purchase in Germany. These are legal restrictions that are beyond our control, and we're very sorry for the inconvenience.
Posted October 01, 2015
several screenshots in the wolf3d page are not from the original.
probably some fan made maps, and I think they should be removed
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Posted October 01, 2015
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mike_cesara: Ha!
I think I should dig up more of my old CD's now and add Heretic, Hexen, Call of Cthulhu.. ; )
Yeah, we need Heretic and Hexen here too! I like those more than Doom and Quake.
Posted October 01, 2015
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triple_l: several screenshots in the wolf3d page are not from the original.
probably some fan made maps, and I think they should be removed
I'm impressed you know every inch of Wolf3D by memory, perhaps they're from Spear of Destiny?
Posted October 01, 2015
Finally!!!
Posted October 01, 2015
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triple_l: several screenshots in the wolf3d page are not from the original.
probably some fan made maps, and I think they should be removed
they are from the two spear of destiny add ons that are included with SOD, so no they shouldn't be removed.
Posted October 01, 2015
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shmerl: Yeah, we need Heretic and Hexen here too! I like those more than Doom and Quake.
Likewise. I hope they make it here, as well as Strife.
Posted October 01, 2015
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PaterAlf: It makes sense for the Wolfenstein games which were indeed banned in Germany.

But the Quake games were not. They are on the index (like many other games that GOG sells to Germans). You are not allowed to promote them, to sell them openly and to sell them to minors. But it's perfectly fine to sell them to adults when they ask for the game.

A simple solution for GOG would be to block the game page for German users and only give access when the customer enters a credit card number (minors are not allowed to have credit cards here). They could also only allow purchases via credit card and everything would be fine.

But there's no real reason to completely lock the games for Germans (and when the publishers says he's forbidden to sell them in Germany it's simply a lie).
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HunchBluntley: A possibility that I thought of would be to hide them for German users on the front page, promo pages and such, as well as leaving them out of general search results (searching by "shooter" category, for example), but allowing German users to see the game when the exact title is searched for (or by simply entering the store page's URL). It might be tricky to implement, but it would be a way to abide by the German restrictions while still allowing German users to purchase indexed (but not banned) games. This would probably have to include your credit card idea being implemented, too.
There's no need for all this. www.gameware.at is selling indexed titles to Germans without problems for many years and GoG could continue to do the same at least when it comes to Quake 1-3, Wolfenstein is another matter due to the swastikas, they could still make the censored German versions of Wolf3D and "Return to Castle Wolfenstein" available though (which in most cases can be hacked if one desires to do so).
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Posted October 01, 2015
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synfresh: How exactly do you expect GoG to age verify on here?
Use of credit card for purchase of games that are otherwise not available. At least in Germany minors are not allowed to have credit cards.
Posted October 01, 2015
Ooooh, Wolfenstein! Gut, gut!
That game was probably the main reason why my parents bought me a console. Back then I was in my first primary school years, and I played the game on my uncle's computer without knowing what Nazism was; explaining why I was drawing swastikas in a "draw your favourite games" homework was a bit difficult, so better having a blue hedgehog instead! XD
Posted October 01, 2015
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Nergal01: Out of curiosity: does Spear of Destiny come with the "Lost Episodes", aka "Return to Danger" and "Ultimate Challenge"?
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DCT: yes in fact they do.
I'm a veteran wolf3d fan and never heard about this.
I went to wiki and they say its from 94 and from the original publisher? really?
Are the screenshots I can't identify from these so called "lost episodes"?
one thing for sure it doesn't have id's quality and it looks like some fan made map
Posted October 01, 2015
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Klumpen0815: There's no need for all this. www.gameware.at is selling indexed titles to Germans without problems for many years and GoG could continue to do the same at least when it comes to Quake 1-3, Wolfenstein is another matter due to the swastikas, they could still make the censored German versions of Wolf3D and "Return to Castle Wolfenstein" available though (which in most cases can be hacked if one desires to do so).
Haven't ordered there yet, but I guess they will ask for an age verification too, before they will send you any indexed games.
Posted October 01, 2015
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Klumpen0815: There's no need for all this. www.gameware.at is selling indexed titles to Germans without problems for many years and GoG could continue to do the same at least when it comes to Quake 1-3, Wolfenstein is another matter due to the swastikas, they could still make the censored German versions of Wolf3D and "Return to Castle Wolfenstein" available though (which in most cases can be hacked if one desires to do so).
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PaterAlf: Haven't ordered there yet, but I guess they will ask for an age verification too, before they will send you any indexed games.
i bought there singularity some years ago and they didn't ask me about my age, paid with paypal.
Posted October 01, 2015
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triple_l: I'm a veteran wolf3d fan and never heard about this.
I went to wiki and they say its from 94 and from the original publisher? really?
Are the screenshots I can't identify from these so called "lost episodes"?
one thing for sure it doesn't have id's quality and it looks like some fan made map
The Lost Episodes were made by another developer (FormGen), and they feature a very different look and a much more maze-like level design. Also, all enemy sprites and voice files were replaced. Some of them look more like the real deal, especially the SS-guys in their black uniforms. Also, the voice samples actually sound like real German this time around.
Posted October 01, 2015
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triple_l: several screenshots in the wolf3d page are not from the original.
probably some fan made maps, and I think they should be removed
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DCT: they are from the two spear of destiny add ons that are included with SOD, so no they shouldn't be removed.
i don't buy these "lost episodes"
its a cheap gimick from someone to gain extra bucks
it has no historical value
and besides its the first screenshot you see when you load the page and its ugly
Pixelmaster Adrian Carmack would never do those mediocre textures
Posted October 01, 2015
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mk47at: No, it isn't! Please check the applicable laws. More information at the bottom of the post.

I'm probably going to be downvoted, but I don't care...

You know that this simply isn't true for the Quake titles. It is perfectly legal to sell all Quake titles to persons that are older than 18 years!
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synfresh: How exactly do you expect GoG to age verify on here?
I think several possibilites have already been mentioned, e.g. possession of a credit card. A foto of a Personalausweis might suffice, but this is a grey area, but I know several shops that use this method. The Deutsche Post offers an age verification service called Postident, this is probably the safest possibility.


If they had stated that they are to lazy to sell them, it would be a different matter. But claiming that they aren't allowed is simply not true.
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