Those gimmicks have a knack of nicely enhancing gameplay in subtle ways once all the hyperbolic rubbish about revolutionising gameplay subsides. The Wii motion controllers were marketed as letting you mimic what your in-game avatar does, but once that was proven as bullshit (and given the space restrictions of many people's living rooms), the Wiimote turned out to be a very capable mouse replacement. In fact, I'm surprised we didn't see more RTS and top-down CRPGs like Titan Quest or Diablo-likes on the Wii.

Likewise, the Wii U's second screen was marketed as having the potential to revolutionise gaming, but when the fuss died down, it turned out that the second screen wasn't going to revolutionise gaming, but rather be a useful way of conserving main screen real estate and avoid unnecessary switching between game screens and maps or inventories.

as far as i am concerned nintendo is stil totally rudderless and stil has their heads up their arses

And they will probably. They need a serious loss before they are willing to admit. They need a serious loss, something akin to CapCom, or the latest gimmick not selling because 2 generations of consoles failed (and they are effectively moving to their handheld market, the only part making them any money).

Although I'm not officially boycotting them, I'm not buying anything of theirs either.

You know. If they were open, had the hardware non-gimmicky, had 3rd party support and helped them, didn't attack fans, and even provided new exclusive titles that everyone wants, then they would probably win big. But that doesn't appear to be their direction.

nintendo has been on a downward spiral ever since the n64
the wii was a fluke because of the motion control hype and the wii U has been back to business as usual
nintendo being blind and tone deaf and stumbeling around

Honestly I thing the Gamecube was a wonderful system, although it's big flaw was it's storage capacity on discs. The controller as I recall was a little weird but you got used to it easily enough. But they had to throw the GC away to push the wii...

I really don't get them.

My GF got a Wii, and I tried playing the Mario Wii game. Letting go of it to flick the entire controller to do a move is annoying, not to mention the Mario Party for the Wii was also horrible. Every game I was interested and tried I hated the motion controls and pointing at the screen. I think we used it more for Net Flix than anything else, and now we can't even use that.

Hum hum, I think your despair has tainted your memory as the DS was a success too (both from financial and videogame points of view)

The DS... the only games I use my DS for is Sudoku. I hate the touch controls otherwise. The screen is too small, the system is too small.

And as far as I'm aware the 3DS is now too, despte it's somewhat rocky start.
At this point I'd much rather Nintendo ditched home consoles in favour of handheld. Even something like the Wii U contoller with decent specs would be nice.
I'm still expecting the NX to be some kind if Hybrid home / handheld console. Or if they really mean that it's a new product than some kind of weird health and fitness device...

dislike not despair and i was talking about consoles not handhelds
the 3DS has plateaued though
the DS sold 154 million the 3Ds is staggering at 59 million
nothing to sneeze at but nowhere near the heights of the DS

i just think the Ds line has run its course

Actually I'd rather that consoles be both, which is essentially what the NX is supposed to be, according to rumours. We're at the point technologically where a single copy of a game should be scalable enough to run on both low-powered and high-powered hardware.

Honestly, I've been really frustrated with the way I've played a game on PC and then had access to an Android version, only to discover that I have no way of porting over saves. Or I've played a game that supported shared saves on the PC/PS4/Wii U, but which is essentially is pointless because you had to pony up more for the Android/Vita/3DS versions separately.

Sony's come the closest to enabling this sort of thing with Remote Play, but even in local networks the lag is prohibitive. The gaming industry needs to start blurring the lines between mobile/handheld and home systems, preferably without excessively relying on or requiring control-freak technologies such as cloud storage.

Looking back through your posts, you seem to have a very large chip on your shoulder about Nintendo.

i dislike nintendo
i believe i said as much in my previous post

A lot of the big companies really need to shrink quite a bit. Go back to simpler or smaller games and be more personable, push back for the core crowd before they are all grown and all that's left is mobile games.

Although there's at least one or two crappy little companies *Cough digital homicide cough* that deserve to just die and stay dead.

Yeah, right, I gathered that much. So why make a dedicated thread to the NX and post every five minutes about it?

The difference being, you don't need to buy a new console for those, since most of those series are cross-platform anyway. ( In fact, the Wii U was generally the only of the "new" consoles to be left out, while PC, XBone and PS4 got all the latest releases. ) Not that I care much for any of those series, but just saying.

Personally, I probably would have bought a Wii U if they had released more new games ( as in, new franchises/ game concepts ), and more games for older audiences, such as Eternal Darkness or the exclusive Resident Evil games back on the GameCube. Or even just sequels to some dusty old series, such as a good new Metroid ( Prime ) game.

A bunch of Mario games just aren't enough for me anymore, no matter how good they may be.

because people keep quoting me ?

and so far it seems im the one who generally posts news on consoles round here
including nintendo

or at least get knocked on their ass
sony got taken down a peg or two during the ps3 and they are much better for it ( though the ps4 pro is a gigantic miss step as far as i am concerned )

microsoft is still microsoft and they take two steps forward and one step back

but nintendo has always been tone deaf blind and oblivious to the rest of the world
marching to their own beat
some times it works
usually it doesnt
but when it works the succes is so huge they seem to be validated in their ways so they keep doing it

im not sure if its laziness or arrogance
but they did everything wrong with the wii U from lack of games to almost no advertising to a stupid confusing name
to yet another gimmick
to actually looking like a souped up wii

and all nintendo does these days in terms of gaming is playing it on safe and rehash the same series
or screwing them over
the new star fox wasnt exactly a major success
and metroid has been damaged so badly since other M nintendo seems to be avoiding it other then that turgid spin off