Correction, your friend never gave you the middlefinger because you have never said or done anything to him that mattered, just treat him like you would treat muslims and he sure will get the message.

thats just a sad proof about the lack of enlightenment and knowledge among gog users

I am enlightened and i still voted for that game...? See, i have mastered Zen, the ninth Kuji In Symbol and i am already practicing on the tenth cut (juji). And my knowledge extends to all 81 mudras, not only the widely known ones... (secretely puts on trollface)

I'm not muslim nor religious at all but I don't see the purpose of this game.It's just plain offensive.

I agree on that one! This game is offensive, because it does not have women for partners! As i said before, they should make this game complete, balanced, equal; which means, it has to contain EVERYTHING Mohhamad had sex with!!! Not only the "different" stuff!

In fairness so are Postal and Carmageddon.

It's a difference, Postal or Carmageddon don't target a specific religion/race.

In the eyes of Islamists, you as a non-Muslim (or not strict enough Muslim, or "wrong" kind of Muslim) are considered an inferior being regardless of whether you respect them or not. The notion that you will be automatically respected back if you give respect does not work as universally as you wish it would. On the contrary, your appeasing and hushing is seen as weakness in some cultures and communities. The intricacies of respect and how it works vary quite a bit from place to place and culture to culture. This is crucial in understanding that your strategy of not offending and hoping to somehow get respect in return simply has no guarantee of working, and has been proven to not work with Islamists who are masters at the art of feeling offended for no reason. The only way to not offend them is to submit to all their whims and demands on all accounts and I'm pretty sure you don't want to do that. People who doggedly follow the "Word of God" aren't willing to compromise because according to them compromise would be blasphemy. So don't expect to find any middle ground or that your patience and tolerance would be returned in any way.
If you're an atheist for example, you are considered a terrorist in Saudi Arabia. Not by a select few fringe radicals, this is official policy to suppress dissidence using religion as a power leverage:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-declares-all-atheists-are-terrorists-in-new-law-to-crack-down-on-political-dissidents-9228389.html


Faith is defined by the actions of its followers. In this case, it's the behavior of Muslims that define Islam.
Very enlightening interview with Irshad Manji who shares this sentiment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3WFDKFkFBA

There is no "one Islam" by the way, the very day after Muhammad's death his followers were divided and they have been disagreeing with each other and in many cases killing each other ever since, to this day. There currently is no central authority that defines what the faith clearly is and isn't so all you can go by are the actions of the believers who follow all kinds of different interpretations. Most interpretations are self-serving to a near comical degree of obviousness.
In the eyes of conservative Muslims, people like Irshad Manji (an openly gay reformist Muslim) are not Muslims at all but as I said there is no central authority that has the say and I think people like her are the best hope for the Muslim community, both in terms of its issues within the community as well as its relationship with the non-Muslim world.


Since Germany is our next door neighbor, I follow German politics to some degree but it's really hard for me to watch because in German political discourse, people always attack the -person- instead of calmly dealing with the issues. It's quite appalling to see politicians on TV shoot below the belt line all the time, the very favorite move being to swing the Nazikeule (drawing the ever convenient nazi card no matter how absurd the context) each and every time anyone has any view that isn't far left and self-hating and politically correct to the degree of neurosis. It's hard to watch because I must facepalm so much that I visually miss out half the program.
The same problem exists here in Switzerland too but it hasn't descended to quite the same depths of what one has to suffer while watching a German political debate. They even have the ever inane audiences that clap at the most absurd statements as long as it's politically correct and sufficiently useless. Addressing problems and solving issues seems near impossible.

Since you don't know what I've said to my friend and what not, this is a perfect example of argument from ignorance.
But I find it oddly flattering that you seem so bent on having my friend cut off my head so you'll no longer have to deal with me.

I was just testing you. :D

You're going to compare this to Carmageddon? Seriously?

Read my above post! XD ^

Ah, OK good. awalterj's post was last in the thread when I clicked reply. :)

Anyone with more than two braincells would have called me on the comparison rather than try to actually debate it. I was curious to see who would do what. XD

There are still people out there who haven't played Carmageddon and take the Daily Mail's bullshit at face value. I read what they wrote about that game and it really opened my eyes to just how full of shit the media really are. I heard plenty of accusations thrown at the press before that but that was right there in black and white and just wall to wall lies.