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Crewdroog: omg why are you taking this as a personal attack?
I didn't, just making some things clear, no worries.
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Crewdroog: fuck off.
Thank you!
It seems the christian kind of "grace of charity / altruism" you have grown up with (as you said) hasn't lost its effect.
Post edited February 12, 2015 by Klumpen0815
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Crewdroog: snip
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Klumpen0815: Yeah, I've got some bad stuff about the Bible too, but that's not the topic, so why do you start with Christianity as if I would be defending it?
I had a similar run as Soccorro, just that I had to free myself from the Christianity of my family and it even was accompanied with violence, although not too much and not life threatening as with most Muslims I know in my town.
Stop copying the "Christianity does too"-deflecting that Muslims always do when it comes to not wanting to admit severe flaws in their belief system.

And no, this stuff is no exception in the Quran, the whole thing is messed up, read it youself, everybody should!

My post was a direct reaction to Strijkbout statement about Islam critics = nazis, which is rather the other way round as I've pointed out very clearly.
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Soccorro: snip
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Klumpen0815: Sorry that I offended your family indirectly in some way, Soccorro, but imho that was nessessary and believe me, I've done a lot of this to my own family and their belief system.

People should start open their own eyes and inform themselves.
In this day and age of Internet and free information, ignorance should not be an option.
Klumpen says "Sorry". WOW.
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Crewdroog: omg why are you taking this as a personal attack?
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Klumpen0815: I didn't, just making some things clear, no worries.
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Crewdroog: fuck off.
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Klumpen0815: Thank you!
It seems the christian kind of "grace of charity / altruism" you have grown up with (as you said) hasn't lost its effect.
what?
Still no wars.bugga....
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tinyE: Yeah, we also practice deodorant use and dental care. :P
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GabiMoro: Hey, deodorant is used in half of Europe and I brush my teeth every week, so what's your point?

On a more serious note, I trust the procedure is done using a anesthetic, so the little boy doesn't sufffer at all?
Aenesthetic...yes...with a needle right into the balls...gloves...full of blood...stitches...i was 11 years old.

WHY AM I TELLING YOU THIS!?
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GabiMoro: Hey, deodorant is used in half of Europe and I brush my teeth every week, so what's your point?

On a more serious note, I trust the procedure is done using a anesthetic, so the little boy doesn't sufffer at all?
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Soccorro: Aenesthetic...yes...with a needle right into the balls...gloves...full of blood...stitches...i was 11 years old.

WHY AM I TELLING YOU THIS!?
well good thing the balls aren't sensitive then, 'cause otherwise i'd imagine that would hurt like a son of a bitch. o.0
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Soccorro: Aenesthetic...yes...with a needle right into the balls...gloves...full of blood...stitches...i was 11 years old.

WHY AM I TELLING YOU THIS!?
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Crewdroog: well good thing the balls aren't sensitive then, 'cause otherwise i'd imagine that would hurt like a son of a bitch. o.0
Oh it did...it did...
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Crewdroog: well good thing the balls aren't sensitive then, 'cause otherwise i'd imagine that would hurt like a son of a bitch. o.0
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Soccorro: Oh it did...it did...
the later treatments for priapism are equally horrific. they aren't kidding around with those "if it lasts longer than four hours" stuff.
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Klumpen0815:
I've personally seen Mein Kampf being openly sold on the street in Muslim countries, the book is disturbingly popular in some places. When people asked me "where from" I sometimes said "Alemania" (Germany) instead of Switzerland because many people don't know about Switzerland and if they do then they try to overcharge you even more than other tourists because they think you're super rich, and then you'll lose even more time to haggle their bonkers prices down. Anyway, I've had people say to me "Alemania, Hitler good" with a big smile on their faces, and no hint of irony whatsoever. This happened on several occasions. I've also had people tell me that I look like Osama bin Laden and while I don't see that as a compliment at all, I learned that Osama is actually considered handsome by many and has plenty of fans so they meant this as a compliment. Again, not kidding. Of course, this hopefully does not represent the majority view in those countries but unsavory views aren't as fringe as apologists try to make us believe and you can run into such mentalities on a daily base at an unsettling frequency. Most tourists don't even notice because they travel in groups and have minimal contact with the locals, I travel by myself so I talk to people a lot and as an individual people feel less inhibited to talk to me and share their views. I've met many super nice people in Muslim countries but I've met quite a number of people whose views would be completely unacceptable over here.
One thing that made me really sad was when I visited a primary school in Syria - and I must point out that Syrians are in general lovely people whose hospitality is supreme and second to none - however it was sad to see that all the school kids were taught that Israel is by definition a prime evil and they all made drawings of Israeli tanks that "kill the babies". I was thinking, if you learn hate from such an early age, how will there ever be peace in the region? Sure, there have been too many civilian casualties on both sides but to witness institutionalized indoctrination of hate is a real downer.


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Strijkbout: We'll see, and please don't come to me if your friend blows your head off next time when you made a joke that didn't fell well on him, but why would you I'm a fake liberal anyway.
My best friend never attacked me when I criticize his religion (Catholicism), on the contrary he's open to discussion. He genuinely forgives me whenever we have a fight regardless of who said what. That is why I greatly respect him even though I give a symbolic -100 respect points penalty to any religious person if they in any way shape or form shove their religion in my face. Because religion is by definition an argument from ignorance and I have exactly zero tolerance when religion passes the barrier from private spiritual matters (which is entirely fine) to public matters where it affects others, often in a decisively negative way. I don't go out of my way to insult religion or those who follow it. For example, if I'm sitting at my friend's table and he prays with his family before meals, I patiently and silently wait and don't mock them. I even say amen because it's his house and praying before eating doesn't threaten me or anyone in any way. In general, I only offend and criticize religion when it crosses the line and/or takes itself too seriously.
When Muslims say I must respect Muhammad, they are absolutely crossing the line. There's not a single reason why I should give any respect whatsoever to Muhammad, he was nothing admirable in my opinion, just a mere mortal like you and me. When I hear people say that he was the perfect human being and then I compare that to what is known about his life, all I experience is a severe disconnect and most severe facepalm. So severe that I think even this primitive silly little crap game is justified in its existence, even if it has no value other than contributing a tiny bit to balance out the ludicrous superiority claims made about one man whose respectability is entirely questionable and whose divine connection is unproven, just like all divine connections. You can believe in it, but don't use it as a pretext to bully and coerce other people into anything. But that's exactly what's happening.
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Klumpen0815:
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Soccorro: HAHAHA... And i actually thought this community is open minded. Really, this thread is all about humiliating a single, specific religion. insulting people, ideas or religions so directly is NOT freedom of speech, it is stupid. by the way 3 muslims have been executed in their home by some 46 year old white dude.
You know what is not open minded? --> Religion. Pretty much proven to be the single most not open minded thing on the planet.
You, as an ex-Muslim, should be painfully aware of how not open minded some countries are about you leaving the religion. Penalties vary from place to place and it goes right up to capital punishment for apostasy. Religion is what people make of it and they make different things of it from place to place so don't bother trying to convince people this has nothing to do with the faith. There's no one interpretation of Islam and no institution that has the authority to decide for the entire Umma so you're entirely up to the mercy of local jurisdiction.
Your claim that insulting people, ideas or religions so directly is not freedom of speech shows great lack of understanding the term. It matters not if something that's said is stupid, that isn't a criteria at all.

Any why are you mentioning that recent murder? The investigation is ongoing. There is as of yet no proof that this was an anti-Muslim hate crime, so there's no point in mentioning it here in this thread.
How about you mention the recent "honor" killing aka murder of a 19 year old pregnant Muslim girl who was stabbed and burned alive by her Muslim boyfriend, in Berlin? Simply because the guy wanted her to get an abortion so his "honor" would be kept intact? If you had any sense, you would be voicing your outrage about things like that first and foremost. But of course, "it has nothing to do with religion", pure coincidence that all those honor killings are somehow perpetrated by Muslim men, mostly against Muslim women.
Post edited February 12, 2015 by awalterj
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Licurg: Can we get this on GOG ? =))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Sex_Simulator_2015
Probably not, the game just serves the purpose of insulting Muslims without any particular benefit as far as I can tell. This is exactly the kind of game that we shouldn't be getting here.

The fact that it's a statement of free speech absolutism is a pretty good indication that it has no artistic or other merit. It's basically just a troll piece.
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awalterj: How about you mention the recent "honor" killing aka murder of a 19 year old pregnant Muslim girl who was stabbed and burned alive by her Muslim boyfriend, in Berlin? Simply because the guy wanted her to get an abortion so his "honor" would be kept intact? If you had any sense, you would be voicing your outrage about things like that first and foremost. But of course, "it has nothing to do with religion", pure coincidence that all those honor killings are somehow perpetrated by Muslim men, mostly against Muslim women.
Nearly my neighborhood and a case that is happening again at times.
"Honour"killings by muslim men towards women (some muslim, some not) are well known here and happening now and then. Doesn't prevent anyone in or outside the media to bash on Pegida as some kind of deluded "hate-movement" though (which is bollocks).

Last time I remember before this case, the muslim guy has cut off the head of his girl, took it outside, raised it high and called "Allahu Akhbar!".
Sure, we desperately need even more of this in Europe...
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32 VOTES ! IT'S HAPPENING !!!
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Licurg: 32 VOTES ! IT'S HAPPENING !!!
Hatred got over 1000 votes, and I somehow doubt it'll happen. :m
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Licurg: 32 VOTES ! IT'S HAPPENING !!!
I'm not so sure friend. 'Nothing' has more than that and it still isn't here. :D

Of course if Nothing were here it would be Something and thus not Nothing and so even if we had Nothing we still wouldn't have Nothing because Nothing would be Something.