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bler144: Yes, I will lay out everything I have done in my investigations in detail as soon as RW comes to the table and we can discuss calmly how the pieces fit, and everyone can be their own judge.
I think I'm going to have to change, myself.

If you're Town, I PRAY you've already investigated me, because the longer this goes, the more I just can't wrap my head around falling in line with the Serial Killer. Trent flipping Town would give me the confirmation of the worst, but nobody else can know that unless I get some independent clearance. I don't even know how to convince anybody of anything.

unvote trentonlf

When you reveal everything, as long as it adds up, I will probably end up following you and praying.
Okay I'll play.

It is a little hard to see with all this mud slung on me from yogsloth.

Unvote: trentonlf
I can confirm bler's post just double-posted. It was only one to start with and then barfed up a 2nd copy after I made my post.


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flubbucket: It is a little hard to see with all this mud slung on me from yogsloth.
Well, look at it from my perspective. Maybe you're 100% Town and playing it legit. I can't know that. But I do know that it's stretching credibility to the limits to have a Town serial killer in the first place, ain't it?

And am I wrong... who's been begging to be a SK, eh? Who?

That's right. You've been. You've been, yes you have, yes you have you snoogy woogy widdle fiuhstatuh, you!
Well, f*ckity f*ck f*ck. I swear, the posting hung up for 5 minutes. I copied it and closed the window - refreshed the page (nothing showing) and opened a new window. Waited a bit until it was well past 10 minutes after I'd first tried to post - pasted and posted.
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yogsloth: Every time I want to come back in here and contribute, I am feeling overwhelmed and aggravated.

I'm forced into blindly following the Serial Killer, or blindly following bler, who has "evidence" on RW but won't say what it is.

The more I think about it, the more I hate everything.

Right now my vote is on Trent - and his day 3 behavior and role reveal make it hard to move - but If I do that, then I am following the Serial Killer myself. It's pretty clear this game was designed, intentionally, from the ground up, to lead directly to Serial Killer victory. There's no other conclusion to draw. And guess who has been saying for a long time how badly he wants to win as a SK? That it's the only trophy not in his case? This all was done on purpose, and it stinks.
I think you are overplaying your "discontent". I have a feeling it is just a smokescreen you are putting up. You have moaned and groaned in the past when a game is not to your liking, but now it feels like you are just doing it so you can avoid having to post anything relevant.

You want Bler to reveal all he has, yet you have only hinted at your role. Even trying to play it so that CSPVG is discreted by your vague hints of what your role is.

I also don't like your statement earlier about lynching RWarehall. You said "Let's say we lynch RWarehall, and he flips Scum. Is it game over? You think the Arsonist is going to die overnight? And what message is he going to bring Tomorrow, after he french-fries one of us? "Oh gee, guys, how did that happen? Let's keep looking for Scum, don't mind me as I barbecue somebody else, toodles!"

Your justification for not lynching RWarehall, even if he is scum, is because the arsonist would still be alive to kill someone. Yet you don't even vote for the arsonist. You try to spin it that it wouldn't matter if we lynch RW because the game would not be over. If he flips scum then he'll yes we did the right thing, the whole object for town is to remove the scum. What does it matter if the game is not over after we lynch a scum? The fact that we lynched a scum is what is important.

You keep flailing around and digging a deeper hole, all you're doing is making it more clear they you are scum. I don't care if we lynch you or RWarehall, I am pretty sure both of you are scum.
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yogsloth: I can confirm bler's post just double-posted. It was only one to start with and then barfed up a 2nd copy after I made my post.
Yeah, I saw it as well. I can vouch for him if mod complains.
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trentonlf: You keep flailing around and digging a deeper hole, all you're doing is making it more clear they you are scum. I don't care if we lynch you or RWarehall, I am pretty sure both of you are scum.
Is this before or after you were convinced I wasn't?

Look trent, you want to join me in lynching the serial killer? Because it's this whole damn group that's just happy to ignore the problem and hope it goes away.
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yogsloth: I can confirm bler's post just double-posted. It was only one to start with and then barfed up a 2nd copy after I made my post.
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Vitek: Yeah, I saw it as well. I can vouch for him if mod complains.
Lol - I think Vitek just won the game. We can all go home.

But thanks ;)
/whew!

BTW - are you going to make a full explanation of the game setup afterwards? I'm almost more curious if I have the design right than whodunit.
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trentonlf: .............<big long thing about stuff>...................
Yeah this.

What could my wants and desires have to do with anything?? yogsloth, your assertion of collusion is just stupid.

flubbucket: Hey Vitek. Let's have a game where I get to be a serial killer and you can host it.

Vitek: Neato!! Let's do that. Wait, won't yoglsoth bitch about it.

flubbucket: No yoglsoth isn't one to complain about things. He's a real trooper.
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trentonlf: .............<big long thing about stuff>...................
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flubbucket: Yeah this.

What could my wants and desires have to do with anything?? yogsloth, your assertion of collusion is just stupid.

flubbucket: Hey Vitek. Let's have a game where I get to be a serial killer and you can host it.

Vitek: Neato!! Let's do that. Wait, won't yoglsoth bitch about it.

flubbucket: No yoglsoth isn't one to complain about things. He's a real trooper.
Whew! Sets my mind at ease!

I'm off to eat some paste for a while.
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trentonlf: You keep flailing around and digging a deeper hole, all you're doing is making it more clear they you are scum. I don't care if we lynch you or RWarehall, I am pretty sure both of you are scum.
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yogsloth: Is this before or after you were convinced I wasn't?

Look trent, you want to join me in lynching the serial killer? Because it's this whole damn group that's just happy to ignore the problem and hope it goes away.
No I will not vote to lynch flub as I believe he is town. I'm still not sure of your fascination of trying to make him a serial killer instead of an arsonist. Is it because a serial killer sounds more damning?

My stance is this: You and RWarehall are scum with a possibility of agentcarr or CSPVG being one also. Not much gong to change my mind on this.
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trentonlf: I'm still not sure of your fascination of trying to make him a serial killer instead of an arsonist.
Gee, I dunno. Where could I get a crazy idea like that from? Maybe from the very first sentence here?

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trentonlf: My stance is this: You and RWarehall are scum with a possibility of agentcarr or CSPVG being one also. Not much gong to change my mind on this.
The either you are scum or we are doomed. Getting railroaded is infuriating. This speed at which you just fall in line and fliparoo is breathtaking.

This is why I have to bet the farm hoping that bler has already investigated me. Since I was all over him earlier, I'm hoping he is Town and did so already. Pretty much everything hinges on what he's found and how he reports it.
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trentonlf: I'm still not sure of your fascination of trying to make him a serial killer instead of an arsonist.
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yogsloth: Gee, I dunno. Where could I get a crazy idea like that from? Maybe from the very first sentence here?

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trentonlf: My stance is this: You and RWarehall are scum with a possibility of agentcarr or CSPVG being one also. Not much gong to change my mind on this.
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yogsloth: The either you are scum or we are doomed. Getting railroaded is infuriating. This speed at which you just fall in line and fliparoo is breathtaking.

This is why I have to bet the farm hoping that bler has already investigated me. Since I was all over him earlier, I'm hoping he is Town and did so already. Pretty much everything hinges on what he's found and how he reports it.
My whole belief in this is based on JMich flipping town. If that had not happened then I would not believe flub at all. For this to make any kind of sense flub has to be telling the truth and that makes you scum. You will not convince me that a townie was working with scum or a neutral.
When WAS the last time RW posted? #1242? Has his online light been on?
In Dallas.

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yogsloth: This is why I have to bet the farm hoping that bler has already investigated me. Since I was all over him earlier, I'm hoping he is Town and did so already. Pretty much everything hinges on what he's found and how he reports it.
I think this is the 3rd time you've brought up being investigated. I wonder why.

J/k, I totes know why. I'd been on the fence whether it was you or trent, but flub's answer plus you hammering this angle waay too obviously makes me pretty confident it's you.

So, I shouldn't do this since there's a lot to say, and I only have about 20 min til I board. If anyone wants to help me by /bumping when I post, that might let me get a few shorter posts in.

RW's ploy
I'm not sure it matters whether RW figured out what my cop role is, but he was trapped. He knows he's going to look guilty at least on 3 fronts: who he visited, what his role was in visiting them, and of course, his alignment.

He gambled on the first two, though admittedly his explanation of role-blocking cristi to save her and getting "miraculously redirected to blocking who knows, maybe trent?" was pretty amusing. I think he was honest about his role.

His trouble is, I'm not a tracker/watcher, or role cop. I'm Town Parity Cop.

And it's quite possible he sussed that out - the trap was that his only way out was to question my credibility (which CSP hammered) or to claim Miller, which might have gotten him lynched anyway if Trent/Yog stayed at a 50/50 split.

/Bump please