It's a holiday up here in the Great White North (though it's not white, currently). Therefore, I'm too lazy to write flavour.


Votecount

trentonlf: 3 (drealmer7, babark, JMich)
JMich: 3 (HypersomniacLive, trentonlf, lotsofchickenwings)
HSL: 1 (RWarehall)

Not Voting: Bookwyrm627, flubbucket, yogsloth

Trentonlf and JMich are tied for closest to Lynch.


Can you tell us how many players that "no majority required for lynch" applies to, or at least if it is more than 2?

No, I can't tell you. The number might change.

Could you tell us if "no longer" means that it's a permanent change, and not just for D4?

Yes, this is a permanent change.

And if so, does "certain players' mean it's the same players from now on, or do the players change each Day?

Once it has happened to a player, it does not go away. It could possibly happen to additional players.

Can you tell us how many Evil are alive (not counting spectres as 'alive')?

Let me get back to you on that.

Again with the accusing you about Bookwryrm627 and crsitigale. I guess repeating it enough times will make it true.
I misread that line about babark, but I'd be disappointed if you didn't try to paint it as something sinister.
As for the "deliberately misinterpreting" - funny, you're accusing me of the same, but you doing it makes you obvi Town... pretty rich.


It stood out to me, I brought it to the attention of others. When adaliabooks did the same, it was an issue, but JMich doing it, and before adaliabooks, it's not...

The actual issue with this though is his response to me in his post #885, but besides cristigale, everyone brushed it off. But not everyone tried hard to underplay it. I've drawn your attention at least twice to it, but you're deliberately - yes, deliberately - avoiding it; guess you've not found (yet?) a convincing-enough sounding argument to spin it as a Town move.

Here, I'll quite it for you: And is what I replied to him, and [url=https://www.gog.com/forum/general/forum_mafia_game_40_wilderberry_hollow/post889]this is how he reacted - completely ignoring everything about this, attempting to steer attention away from him and back to adaliabooks, accusing me of trying to discredit him, and promptly voting me. Where did I see this recently?

This is not the reaction of someone that made an honest mistake and simply assumed that Spectres can't be NK-ed, or misread the D2 opening post.
Add to that all the wiggling he did with that "Spectres manipulating the mod" and what that meant in relation to his argument for voting adaliabooks, or how that would fit in with Town having a realistic chance at winning.
It's interesting that you underplay it, to say the least, and present it as nth. More so after having reread my exchanges with JMich, when you're presenting yourself as almost the only one trying to figure things out, and picking up all sorts of tells, subtleties and nuances in others' posts.


Funny, I also see a pattern, and the appearance of giving me the benefit of the doubt is just part of your "LAMIST, I'm totally scum-hunting, and so not pushing my scum-agenda".


And you're trying a tad too hard to not touch JMich, keep attention away from him and on to me. Interesting that your push on me started after the mod revealed that not everyone needs a majority to get lynched. While JMich has 3 votes on him...
Am I surprised? Not one bit.
How many votes for me will it take before you dissect my posts, and present my scumminess beyond any doubt and push hard for my lynch, just like you did with adaliabooks'?


I'm Mafia for getting on his wagon late, the two of you are Town for being "early adopters", and adaliabooks tried to use this as cover for me? Some sort of reverse psychology? Is this how I should read this?



It is, isn't it? I'm on board lynching him if we can get a majority vote on him, I think it more likely for JMich to be among the players that don't require one.

No, I did read it. No, I'm not avoiding it or spinning in.

Take a look at Post #817 yourself...

Just look at the meat of the post...I read it the same way as JMich did. Reposted because I get the sense many people are not going back through the thread. First sentence summarized, "I don't think Christie is lying, but would the real Coroner please speak up."
Second sentence summarized, "It's not likely Christie is lying, but I need to bring this up."
Third sentence, "If Christie is lying..."
Next paragraph, talks of Bookwyrm being scum.

You know Hyper...I think I can explain my thoughts simply...

I don't really think you are scum, but you sure seem to be taking linguistic liberties to make this point. I know its really unlikely you are scum, but I feel it's very necessary to bring this up. And if you are scum and we ignore you, scum will almost definitely win.

Clearly, it should be obvious to anyone I have no doubts about your townliness. I mean, I said it was unlikely, so clearly I don't really mean to imply you might be scum.

You did read the last votecount post by agentcarr16, right? Do you think trent is on the same boat, or that agent is lying?

That still doesn't address what I've now for the third time directed you to. Unless I made my post #1247 with invisible digital ink, you're still avoiding it; still haven't found a pro-Town sounding argument to spin it, eh?



I hadn't when I posted, then went to prepare dinner. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

Keep in mind my vote basically has to be the hammer. I can't start a wagon.

If it comes to it, I'll hammer JMich. I'd just rather go after RW.

I'd rather lynch both of them in one go.

Do you prefer RWarehall over JMich because you're uncertain about the latter, and why if so, or as a tactical move?

I do believe I have a stronger read on RW at this point. JMich is still on my scumlist, but I hardly have 100% certainty on the makeup of the team. Not even their number. My initial read on a4 was Scum, that's where I started, I backed off after the substitution, but I feel RW has been pushing against the wrong players if he's Town. That's all, really.

How do you lynch both in one go?

Can you tell us how many Evil are alive (not counting spectres as 'alive')?

I'm not going to answer that question, for obvious reasons.

However, I had intended to include the starting number of Evil as part of the openness. I forgot, so I am rectifying my mistake now.


Official Rules Edit

6. There are exactly ten (10) Good and three (3) Evil in the game at commencement.

uHHHhhHH?

Way to kick Mafia in the chones. It was the most reasonable guess for the rest of us, but still. Not cool.

I blame Krypsyn for this.

I see the mod spilled the beans about their number, not sure it was necessary at this point in the game.


It was just wishful thinking put into words. I'm good with lynching either one of them Today, and hope the game doesn't end before we lynch the other.
I'm one vote for RWarehall, you're another one. We need four more to be certain he goes down.
JMich has currently three votes, you're another one, and we need two more to reach majority.

Let's see who is willing to vote for whom.

You can count me as a vote for either one of them.

If we can build a cabal of voters who would vote for either JMich or RW, I suggest placing votes in a block.

Entirely on one, then entirely on the other, and see what happens.

There are ten players here. Unfortunately, majority lynch requires six. Unfortunate because Wyrm doesn't have a vote.

So we have five voting living Townies, three voting Scum, and my hammer Townie vote.

That is enough to lynch with majority with my hammer.

But guess what my ring-a-ding-dongs?

Somebody no longer requires majority. Somebody can be lynched with five votes.

I don't know who that is, or the exact mechanic behind it, but I'd bet a shiny nickel it's not a Townie.

HSL/trent...?

Who else wants in on this party?

This was five days ago.

REALLY NEED YOU BRO.

Granted, getting the participation level required to execute any kind of plan is probably an unlikely proposition.

Shall we just return to our usual screaming clusterfuck?