Do you really think I asked you because I've missed something?

And clarify one more thing, please - do I understand you correctly that you take adaliabooks voting babark three times as a sign of them being scum-buddies?



This is an interesting game mechanic. Could you tell us if "no longer" means that it's a permanent change, and not just for D4? And if so, does "certain players' mean it's the same players from now on, or do the players change each Day?

Read my statement. I think I've been pretty clear. I'm voting Flub because I don't see Babark as a scumbuddy to Adalia. And I have my doubts whether JMich can be, although I'm leaving that door slightly ajar. That whole very end of day Adalia is strange starting with post #1105 where JMich isn't even on his short list anymore, but then he turns around to vote him.

Somehow, I'm getting the feeling you are deliberately misinterpreting what I'm saying HSL. First you accused me of claiming Bookwyrm and Christie might be scum, now you are seemingly trying to twist my words about Babark. I'm just getting the impression you are trying to discredit my opinion and make me look scummy.

Unvote Flubbucket
Vote HSL

Between Trent who doesn't want to explain anything about his opinions and HSL who all game seems hellbent on misinterpreting and exaggerating people's statements...

Sorry about that, I read it as "are scumbuddies", hence the question.


Is that after taking that serious look you said you'd take, or is that still coming?


Took you a tad longer than I expected.

Asking for clarification because I thought you were actually posing a question is accusing you of claiming they might be Scum? Makes one wonder who's looking for a chance to twist words and misrepresent...

But I'll give you saying all the right things to create a false sense of success for Town, that we've lynched a Mafia, and odds are looking better now that we only have to find the other two; so far, it has netted you a certain someone getting on board. Well played, let's see see what this post gets you.
And claiming I'm trying to discredit your opinion and promptly voting me? Now, where have I seen this before...

Let's see...
First, you accuse me of arguing Bookwyrm and Christie are scum...
Next, you get my position wrong on Babark.
Now, you are accusing me of deliberately misinterpreting?

All this after you tried so hard to paint JMich as scum because he didn't think spectres could be NK'd. Claiming the only reason could be he's scum.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt with the JMich incident, but now that you are seemingly doing the same to me, I see a pattern.

I re-read your argument with Jmich. I don't see much there. Others have said the same. The closest thing to something JMich got wrong was in regards to post #817 but if you really read that post, it contains a lot of "double-speak" from Adalia. Funny how you can accuse JMich of deliberately mischaracterizing a post which simultaneously claims Bookwyrm and Christie are town but asks the "real Coroner" to claim as if Christie was lying.

No, the door ajar came from a re-read of the very end of day. Something smells funny there, but I can't put my finger on it exactly. From post #1105 to the end of the day. It looks like Adalia is providing cover for someone. He never actually voted you, but lists you as his top candidate along with Drealmer and me. But then votes for JMich 5 votes later.

Is he covering for you by distancing, you know, his "#1 candidate"? Or is he covering for JMich by pushing one last vote to make it "very clear" they are not on the same team? I'm leaning the former, as you seem to be trying too hard to paint people as scum with nothing to back it up, but I'm not ruling out that Adalia might have made a push on JMIch at the end to "prove" they are not on the same team.

Refer back to my Adalia "Vote Hopping Tour" list...post 1197
Post #1105 all of a sudden poses a scum team of HSL, Drealmer and me...none of which he's been voting for. I just find it odd how he included your name for hopping on the wagon late along with two early adopters.

more explanation required

tell us why you find it "rough"

what I didn't say before was that you're also very capable of having made the move you did with the PMs mention and being NKed as scum, especially if Evil had 3 alive going into last night and you felt confident to lose one in order to gain town points and drive the victory home for Evil (especially if you thought it possible you'd be lynched the next day anyway), and we need to keep that possibility in mind

I didn't say that before because I wanted to see what you happened to contribute and what others did for a little

considering you've not really helped town at all since coming into the game as far as I can see, and as a townie at this point I would figure you to have been providing a LOT more analysis and insight, you're right back up there as possible Evil for me until you do something Good

OOHHH, and I think maybe I figured trent out. In honor of me, he is RPing and directing his RP at me! which would mean he's got to be Evil!

And to continue my last point...
Include you as a #1 pick merely for jumping on his wagon so close to deadline...it smells funny, very funny...

to provide a little more analysis:

if both adalia and yogs are scum, I think it has to be a 4person Evil team

if yogs is not Evil, I still think it is possible (though less so than if he is) that Evil started with 4

oof, something seems out of balance here, Evil knows how many they've got left to kill, but Good has no clue

@agent, can you tell us how many Evil are alive (not counting spectres as 'alive')?

I would take a look at the bigger picture if I were you.
While I can see the possibility of scum inserting one of their number if all 3 were alive...
Let me ask you one question...
What would the scum team look like if all 3 were alive (and thus Adalia was town) and they sent their buddy Yogs to spectre Heaven?
So, then, why would Yogs as scum be bringing such attention to his scum buddies? Those voting for Trent are the most likely scum, if Adalia were somehow town.

In short, I don't see it.

So.

Ten of us left. (Well, a couple of us are slightly respiration-challenged, but ten players in the max total posting, anyway. Ten votes. Six to lynch.

But some players no longer require a majority.

I believe I know why.

OK kids, plug your ears, the ghosts have to talk.

@Wyrm - Tell me what you got left. Watchya gonna do? Are you going to pay a small price or a big price? Speak in like, all super secret codes and stuffs so nobody knows what you mean. THE BANANA FLIES AT MIDNIGHT. You know. I believe my fruit basket isn't as appealing as yours, so I don't intend to eat any of it. But that could change depending on what you do and how much pizza you have left.

RW is so scum it's hilarious, btw. Shoulda stuck with my gut on a4.

I do have a vote, but once it's placed, it doesn't come off, so I intend to use it to hammer if I like the candidate.

I would strongly suggest lynching RWarehall.

I'll agree that yogs being Evil is slim chance, but I'm not discounting it all together in conjunction with the possibility that they started with 4.

If Evil started with 3 and adalia was Good and yogs is evil?...I don't see that either. Me considering yogsloth being evil is contingent on adalia also having been, and therefor leads me to the Evil started with 4 thought.

uhhh, yoggi, can you detail for us why RW is obvi-scum? that'd be helpful

I'm starting to think your fruit-basket only had prunes because Evil doesn't get spectre-abilities? and now you're just using "code" that you picked up from the previous exchange of cristi and wyrm to make it seem like you're a similar spectre to them when all you have is shit

I think it funny, so many in this game want to just claim "Player X is scum" or "Player X is town" and provide nothing else. Guess its your gut?

Sometimes I think I'm one of the only ones here who is trying to figure this out and reading the past posts, because for all the "I believe Adalia was town and 3 scum are left", I don't see anyone explaining why.

I'm not surprised Yogs thinks what he does, because he's been fixated on it all game. I've thought a particular person was scum all game before and been wrong, just as Yogs is now. I still don't think he's scum though. Because Adalia is Obvi-scum to borrow a phrase and there is no way there were 4 scum to start. With 3, scum just wouldn't take the chance to lynch their own and end up with 1. Heck, even with 4, I doubt they would...

Trying to cast shade on me (pun intended!) is pretty ridiculous, IMO.

Not because I wouldn't want to have a surprise twist in killing myself as Scum to come back to haunt your assess... that sounds exactly like something I would to, I admit...

But you think I could really roll into the game, as a sub with no prior contact with my team, devise that entire plan myself (which I would have to have done, given my first post) having barely read the thread, and then proceeded to bully my teammates into abandoning whatever they were doing, shut up, and obey me? Whaddya think drealmer, would YOU kiss my butt like that?

Or is it more likely I effectively faked the last power role to soak the night kill?

I do think, from reading between the lines of the book I got when I died, that each specter after me is going to get fewer and fewer goodies, and those will be less and less appealing, regardless of alignment.

What are your thoughts on JMich?

I still think we have not lynched a scum yet. I am also torn between RW and drealmer as the last scum after JMich and babark. If drealmer is town then his hubris is blinding him and he is playing right into scums hands. I also tend to always find RW town and he ends up being scum, him and Krypsyn always seem to fool me. RW is talking an awesome town game, but the direction he is going I think is wrong and it leads me to believe it's possible he is trying to discredit as many town players as he can and try and ascertain who the exorcist is.

I think there is a three-man scum team, located between RW, babark, JMich, drealmer. I'm also terrified our last power role is in that same group, with my luck.

drealmer is extremely difficult for me to read because I simply can't tell where the crazy ends and the malevolence begins. Is he Scum, or just a looney? I can't tell.

But RW's insistence that adalia was Scum doesn't sit well with me. I thought adalia was tré Scummy most of the first Day I was here, but eventually changed my mind. But hell, I don't know. Do you? Why does RW? He's then, to me, running interference on some players and pursuing the wrong ones. To me, he's moved into the #1 position.

Although, hell, if you and HSL are Scumz, more power to ya, fellas!!!

In any case, hopefully the exorcist will know that from here on out, he is to exorcise the day's lynch, no matter who it is. Bookwyrm is 100% locked in as Town, and it really should be clear, that with only one death needed for the win, Scum team wouldn't waste a member and precious time killing one of their own, when they could go for the insta-win.

The idea that scum would kill one of their own to make a spectre is ridiculous, it's a wasted kill for them when they could win the game if they actually killed the PR.