Now the real paranoia begins.

@dessimu - I assume that babark was your doing?

Babark's death seemed to come out of left field to me. At least I don't remember anyone saying they were suspicious of him.

Sorry, Babark.

@ Cristigale

Yes, it was my doing. I sort of left a clue I might target him. As to why - I didn't like JMich's plan of force-confirming Bookwyrm to be the real deprogrammer, as that gives too much info about who remaining PRs will/should target, tracker might be revealed for no needed reason, townies killed in the name of confirmation and for one last time - in case Bookwyrm lied, real deprogrammer would do the thing and take situation into control without being forced to reveal him/herself.

Babark somehow was both ok with not folowing the plan and also ok with following the plan. Did he not see, how this does not benefit town too much? I don't say I am always right, but JMich is expressing some unusual ideas this time. So, I personally suspected Babark, killed him. JMich was my #2 but I figured he will get the right judgement by players themselves or be targeted by deprogrammer.

Vigilante shot is a tough call.

I'm going to reread a couple of players and see if something is there I may have missed.

What do you think about outing the tracker now??

Ignoring the current results, would you have taken a different Vigilante shot than Dessimu??

How do you feel about No Lynch now??

Do you think we've learned anything from the Day One lynch??

Does vinegar come from tree sap or squeezed from leaves??

I'm assuming you're asking who I would have targeted if I was the vig. I would have targeted babarak, JMich, or RWarehall.

For those who can't tell flub's new picture says "I'M STUPID".

It's not much of a punishment if people don't know about it :)

Babark was an interesting choice. The outcome was perhaps the second best we could have gotten.

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Vote JMich.

I'll admit when I first saw the kill I HATED it. Not that it was Babark, but that you used it so soon.

I was hoping you'd (the vig) would take a bit of time, get a better sense of who might be the cult leader or at least get to a point in the game where there would be a few more cult that you'd have a chance to hit.

After the hate, I think I understood it a little bit (not wanting to waste your vig shot being converted before use)... but in the end I still think instead of wasting your vig shot getting converted, you wasted it too soon and killed a townie.

Also, did I miss it or did not a single person ask Bookwyrm who he visited last night? I don't know what to make of that.

@ Ixamyakxim

First question is: should we ask at all?

I considered this.

In the end I think I'd like to know. Assuming Bookwyrm isn't false claiming, I can know a nice sized voting block. Bookwyrm is town, PLAYER X (at least for a day) is town, heck I can even feel pretty good knowing you're town for today as I don't think cult would have wasted a conversion on you last night.

I felt strongly that Warehall was town based on his contributions / observations and there were a few of the people that raised my eyebrows on his wagon yesterday at close.

I think if I saw a voting block of "confirmed" town today and how they vote / discuss I could get a better idea of either Bookwyrm's claim or cult voting / lynch attempts.

Well, now we're down two townies, so that's not good. But I still think if there was a no lynch, we wouldn't learn much to vote on the next day. Just my two cents.

Well, now that we know that RWarehall was town, it makes me suspicious of the people who jumped on the bandwagon to kill him. So when Drealmer (who has not posted for two days?) said RW and I had a perceived connection, it's not such a bad thing now that he's a confirmed townie.

And thirdly, I don't know about vinegar?

How was this outcome good? He was a townie. This comment makes no sense if you're town.

@ Fantasysci5

(Super best outcome: Babark flipped cultist, but was CL)
First best outcome: Babark flipped cultist
Second outcome: Babark flipped town
Third bad outcome: Babark flipped tracker
(Super worst outcome: Babark flipped town, but was DP)

That's how I interperet Bookwyrm's saying.