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AlienMind: For example, if I have an Atari2600 and bought a cardridge, and the Atari2600 broke, it should be legal to download a copy from wherever and run that on an emulator.

Furthermore, in the case of culturally relevant software like games, where clearly the behavior of a whole species was influenced and shaped by specific titles, especially after more than a few decades passed, they should not be owned by single companies but instead should be transferred to the public domain and thus, equally, it should be legal to download a copy from wherever and run that on an emulator because real devices are museum pieces.

emuparadise in this instances were just a place where those roms were lying around and as such.. the existence of such a storage should also not be illegal and gone after by police. The police should go after people where those two things above not apply. But they want the easy way out so they just cease and desist emuparadise.

Note that I said "should" a lot of the time here. That's my viewpoint. Of course, it's still not legal because.. well it's about money and thus corporations and as politicians who make laws today are run by corporations.. well... shit.
I thought the argument was that the companies who sold the games weren't selling them anymore, thus it's OK to download them. Now we're saying to hell with their rights, as they've become important so we take their things from them? Look, they're either selling something and making money off of it, or they're dicks for not selling something and thus also not making money off of it and depriving the world of it. You can't have it both ways.

Plus, if they make something really strong and powerful, because they did the work necessary to make something strong and powerful, don't they have a right to milk that? Don't we owe them for their service of transforming the industry?
The funny thing is that it's been found that the roms Nintendo sells on its Virtual Consoles and the mini consoles are often downloaded from sites such as this one, too.
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fortune_p_dawg: i had a switch for a while. ... the hardware itself is cheaply engineered & built garbage.
No kidding. I had a few tries with some demo units, and I just can't over the fact how crappy those joycon controllers feel. For a company well-known for making quality controllers in the past, they really dropped the ball on these. Dropping $70 on the pro controller should be a preference, not a necessity. Also, the buttons instead of d-pad feels incredibly weird. I'll be curious to see if they're going to address this issue in their eventual console redesign/refresh.
Please don't share links to ROMs.
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Linko90: Please don't share links to ROMs.
That's something I've always wondered, how is it we are allowed to post Steam links in here?

I have a feeling if I went into their forum and linked a GOG game or sale, my ass would be out in a heartbeat.
Post edited August 09, 2018 by tinyE
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Linko90: Please don't share links to ROMs.
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tinyE: That's something I've a;ways wondered, how is it we are allowed to post Steam links in here?

I have a feeling if I went into their forum and linked a GOG game or sale, my ass would be out in a heartbeat.
There are no legal grey areas around linking to steam, not really on topic but yeah, not against the rules. Hence why giveaways with steam codes etc are fine.
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Mr.Mumbles: No kidding. I had a few tries with some demo units, and I just can't over the fact how crappy those joycon controllers feel. For a company well-known for making quality controllers in the past, they really dropped the ball on these. Dropping $70 on the pro controller should be a preference, not a necessity. Also, the buttons instead of d-pad feels incredibly weird. I'll be curious to see if they're going to address this issue in their eventual console redesign/refresh.
I have to say I was really worried about the Joycons when I got mine and expected them to be a bit crap, but actually I love them.
The placement of the two triggers is a little uncomfortable (I preferred the Wii U's set up with a bit more space) but otherwise I have no complaints with them, I far prefer them to the X Box controller I got to use with my laptop.

Honestly I'm not sure what the complaints about the Switch hardware wise are about, as usual for Nintendo I find it's a pretty sturdy and comfortable piece of kit.
The OS is a little bare bones, but it loads lightning fast so it's a vast improvement over the Wii U in that regard.

I wish they would do something proper with the virtual console. I kind of feel their online subscription is a step in the right direction, they just need to add all their old games to it instead of just a few NES ones.

As for ROMs... yeah it sucks that they do this stuff, but at the end of the day it is perfectly within their legal rights to do so.
This thread reminds me to start operation Playstation by collecting as many post 2010, PS3 games from these places ,as possible.
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zlaywal: Japanese entertainment corps have a crazy copyright and drm stance.
Emuparadise was a bit naughty but Nintendo were abusing peoples youtube channels for having clips of games which they were entitled to use under fair use.
Post edited August 09, 2018 by Spectre
I am starting to really dislike Nintendo.
First they sabotage fan made projects and now this.
This is indeed disheartening.

The only thing to do is NOT to reward that kind of behavior.
No matter how tempting it may be, do not buy anything from Nintendo or anything in any shape or form they can profit from.

I have been collecting consoles from the 70's and newer - and my switch is going to be the last piece of Nintendo hardware purchased from new. From now on everything Nintendo (including switch games) i am getting is going to be second hand used stuff - picked up from flea markets, etc.

This is the last time they have earned a profit from me.
From now on, new Nintendo stuff is banned under my roof.

Needless to say, i am royally pissed at Nintendo - a big f-you in their general direction.

/rant
Post edited August 09, 2018 by Solei
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fortune_p_dawg: i had a switch for a while. ... the hardware itself is cheaply engineered & built garbage.
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Mr.Mumbles: No kidding. I had a few tries with some demo units, and I just can't over the fact how crappy those joycon controllers feel. For a company well-known for making quality controllers in the past, they really dropped the ball on these. Dropping $70 on the pro controller should be a preference, not a necessity. Also, the buttons instead of d-pad feels incredibly weird. I'll be curious to see if they're going to address this issue in their eventual console redesign/refresh.
not only do the joycons feel terrible, nothing about the system's build feels at all precise. the thing has a slight curve, one joycon goes on easier than the other, the dock scratches the screen apparently, no way to backup saves, the list goes on. the entire system is like one giant cut corner. not to mention the fact that my giant, brown, catchers mitt, body buildery hands just about turn the thing to dust every time id brush up against the it.

give me my 12-pound, solid as fuck asus rog laptop any day.
Post edited August 09, 2018 by fortune_p_dawg
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Linko90: Please don't share links to ROMs.
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tinyE: That's something I've always wondered, how is it we are allowed to post Steam links in here?

I have a feeling if I went into their forum and linked a GOG game or sale, my ass would be out in a heartbeat.
I've linked to here on steam many times, particularly for We Happy Few as people were confused that they couldn't buy on Steam yet.
Don't worry it'll be back. How many times has TPB been down and came back under a different domain.
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Crosmando: Don't worry it'll be back. How many times has TPB been down and came back under a different domain.
I think eventually it stops being worth the effort, such as when Pretend You're Xyzzy got taken down due to dumb things.
Dammit, I told myself just last night that going through their ROMs could wait until today, and this just has to pop up.

Are there are any other ROM sites comparable to Emuparadise? (I know links are bad, but is asking this ok in the forum?)
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tremere110: Just went to Emuparadise... still seems to be there as far as I can tell. I didn't try to download any ROMs though.
Same here. Looking at the forums, it does seem like they removed all the Nintendo games?