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Also with the SJW bs one could argue the Damsel in distress argument as well since Duke himself is saving women/Chicks.

Duke could work but there would be tons upon tons of backlash.

Hail to the King Baby!.
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We are in 2018, sometime I am not even sure if Pong could be made in today's climate without some dummy writing a six pages click-bait article about how a game featuring straight while lines is highly racists an homophone.

So for a game like Duke Nukem 3d to be made today... I think there are not that many studio that would do it today and even fewer that would do it right, as in without trying to put the "parody" aspect to ridiculous level to try to dodge the controversies. (i.e. How I full except Gearbox to handle it if they ever make a sequel to DNF).
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fronzelneekburm: Duke Nukem isn't the problem. It's "today's climate" that's the problem.
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Epitaph666: What he said.

Plus i once again don't understand the hate for DNF as a game. I mean yes it lacked some things (not enough gore, couldn't use many weapons as you could in 3D and graphics were good but lacking) but to call it a "Shitty game"...
Well that's overreacting.

I'd give it a 80% overall.
The hate was caused by the fact that Duke Nukem fans were forced to wait, well... forever (sad ba dum tss) and got a title that was very meh and not worth all the wait.




And I heavily disagree with your 80%. It's a pretty weak shooter that looks just bad compared to Due Nukem 3D.
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Anyone who has ever played DNF knows it has nothing to do with the content. It's a shit game. It's design is awful, it has a confusing upgrade system, it really doesn't look that good, and worst of all IT'S BORING!!!! :P

I bought it, I started it, and after 45 minutes of crawling through fucking air ducts I decided I would probably be having more fun driving nails into my genitals. I'm not kidding! The first 30-45 minutes is just crawling through air ducts! That's it! XD

Anyone who ever complained (which I have) that F.E.A.R. has monotonous backgrounds needs to have a look at this game to see what it really means to have monotonous backgrounds.
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None of the "big" companies have the balls for it. Certain "groups" would immediately start throwing a tantrum and that is a no-go for them. They cannot afford to taint their image as a "proper", "correct" and "inclusive" company.

And why does noone have a problem with Caleb being pretty much a sadistic psychopath and literally eating the hearts of his enemies to heal? Or Lo Wang making puns like "Just like Hiroshima" etc.? For some reason, it is only a problem when a game character acts macho and considers women chicks. The pure idiocy with the "correctness" and "inclusion" is growing beyond definable proportions. Sorry, it IS already much further than it should have ever gotten. We need more devs not giving a shit like Warhorse that basically said "deal with it" to all the haters.
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Could it work today? Easily.

Start off with a reformed Duke who has changed his ways. Suit and tie, middle manager at a scented candle company. Then come up with an upward scale of abuses around the world until he can't take it any more and the badass must break out of the shell to deal with the world-threatening McMonster or whatever. Bang! Revert to old Duke, but keep having moments of conflict where New Duke and Old Duke wrestle for his psyche. Tank top gets traded for the suit jacket with the sleeves torn off. And a bow tie. Suit pants and combat boots. "Hey, bab--- I mean, greetings, ma'am." That sort of stuff.

And make it all funny.

Could balance the old Duke with a presentation of how ridiculous some of the new culture can be, while still pointing out that the old Duke kinda has to go.
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idbeholdME: None of the "big" companies have the balls for it.
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Fairfox: lolz thars teh phrase i mentioned in teh other post. men bein' liek women is sooooo gay

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idbeholdME: And why does noone have a problem with Caleb being pretty much a sadistic psychopath and literally eating the hearts of his enemies to heal?
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Fairfox: ...yah i kno, its a problem i oft. encounter in every day life... *thunkzzz*

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idbeholdME: The pure idiocy with the "correctness" and "inclusion" is growing beyond definable proportions. Sorry, it IS already much further than it should have ever gotten. We need more devs not giving a shit
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Fairfox: this just reads as somebody naht direct lee impacted by any of it
1) Yes, I use commonly used colloquialisms. Shocking...

2)You are right, you don't see that often unlike guys fending off alien invasions single handedly. But many seem to think that if you play a macho man for a minute, you immediately start acting like one. Why don't they also automatically assume that we instantly become murderous psychopaths when we play as one?

3) The core of the problem is, that games are being villified for no reason because some people make absurd connections and we see the results everyday where games are being called racist for no reason, devs have to deal with censorship and such. I don't give a damn if the main character in a game is black and I don't need to complain about it. Turn it around and it is a worldwide scandal of epic proportions à la Kingdom Come for some reason. That is what makes me so riled up on this topic. People are seeing problems where there are none, blaming games for problems they have minimal or no influence on and forcing their views of what is right down everyone's throat wether they like it or not.
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So help me god if one more person uses the term "SJW" I'm going to blow my brains out.
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tinyE: So help me god if one more person uses the term "SJW" I'm going to blow my brains out.
If you have a better term to describe the people who constantly over-react seemingly finding racism or sexism in just about everything...what term do you suggest instead?

And it's not even like this group of people even tries very hard. If there is an election and one of the people is a minority or a woman, the claim is racism or sexism was the cause. No consideration at all that maybe people thought the other candidate was the better choice for other reasons. If a developer creates a medieval fantasy thematically based on their home country in the middle ages, and as a result, the world is mostly one ethnicity, that developer is somehow racist because of their poor demographics or representation. If a couple scenes in a game depict women acting poorly, the developers are sexist even if there are dozens of other examples in the same game depicting men acting poorly. If there is one main protagonist, and the protagonist is male, the game is somehow automatically sexist. Or if he's white, racist.

SJW is the term for this type of person. Most everyone knows what it means and most everyone sees how many vocal people act this way. These are people who cherry-pick situations to their advantage claiming it enhances "social justice" when all they are doing is advocating for their particular cause and ignoring true equality or real justice.
Personally I think it has more to do with humor. It used to be a big part of gaming, books, etc. in the 80's/early 90's. These days, not so much; everybody wants to be "blood and guts! grrr!" or "walking simulator" or "look at my clever game: you play a person playing a person playing a person playing a person playing a game." Boring.
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