with the pitt dlc fallout 3 got a battle arena :P
fallout 3 = oblivions future exploded

Fallout 3 = Oblivion with horribly broken DLC for the Xbox 360 (google pictures of The Pitt and see the red exclamation points! HAHA!!)

oblivion = Fallout 3 with dungeons.

Fallout 3 = Oblivion with burnt out shopping malls!

Well, that was the greatest thing ever. Ty for the laughs.

What a great thread!! XD!

I bought these games during the promo, eventhough I never played or even liked RPGs.
This morning I managed to finish Fallout, playing it without any mod and with the default Max Stone character.
Not trying to discover as much as possible, but simply going to all locations and furfilling all quests.
I'll see myself replaying it some day with mods and stuff and really checking out the various sectors.
Fallout 2 is the next I'll play and I think I will like that just as much.
After that it's Fallout Tactics that will keep me busy.
Who knows, I might even check out some other 2D isometric and preferably turnbased RPG.

Fallout is a good game.
Fallout 2 is a good game.
Fallout 3 is a good game.
None of the games are perfect. None of the games are horrible.
Just because something's different doesn't mean it's bad.

Eh, I agree. I played the original Fallout games only a few months, maybe a year before Fallout 3's release, because of all the raves and ratings of those who loved the old ones. I was underwhelmed beyond belief, considering my Alpha Centauri high expectations. But they were still good games. But I can understand why some would prefer the originals over number 3, considering all the changes.

oblivion = Fallout 3 with horses!

Well Fallout is in the same situation as Resident Evil is right now, for example: resident evil 4 and 5, while being fun shooters, have absolutely nothing to do with the gameplay or story of the first 3.
but still they managed to build a new fanbase, this results in having the old fanbase (wich likes survival horror games) bitching about the new titles, while the new fanbase (mostly shooters fans) hypes them to the stars.
the same goes for fallout, looking for tipical fallout elements in fallout 3, is like looking for porn in a church, still there's a lot of people who enjoyed it (and probably enjoyed oblivion too) and there's nothing wrong with thay.
But the old fans (or people whos prefer deeper stories or turnbased combat) usually are quite unsatisfied.

RE5 was full of story from the first four games. Not sure how you could say otherwise.
And old fans being unsatisfied is a given. To expect Bethesda to produce a point-and-click turn-based text-heavy RPG with the technology they have at their hands is asking them to shoot themselves in the foot. Businesses exist to make money, and while producing a game like Fallout could bring in a modest profit in the late '90s, it's pure developer suicide in this day and age. The failure to realize that demonstrates an obvious lack of judgment. Hell, the business end of game development is what has Interplay dried up at the moment.
Nostalgia's wonderful, and gog.com exists so that we can play the old games we love and will likely never see produced again, but it's stupid to expect an ever-increasing market to handicap itself and cater to our wants/needs.
That's my two cents.

Actually i thnk that the mrket is flooded with FPS/third person shoothers and FPS-RPG hybrids, without looking at the indie scene (wich strangely is growing a lot).
I think it's time for a big company to introduce something new (or take back good old stuff and innovate it a bit), of course it's a risk but it could also be a giant hit. but instead they keep going on the safe route making one generic game after another.
its worser than the music industry.
btw, in resident evil 5 i prefferred skipping most story related stuff after a while and started focusing on shooting stuff.

It's kind of semi related, but didn't Capcom release a new Megaman game very much in the style of the original NES ones fairly recently?
If I remember, it was released as dowloadable content. It says to me that if there is a demand for it, perhaps companies might look at it. This way, I assume (could be totally wrong) the company would save a fair wedge of money on releasing a game, so it'd be less of a risk if it did die.
I think there is scope there for more retrospective games.

thing that made me most angry about fallout 3. Ghouls. They made them into something bad when they are just people.
Oh and how did harold end up in D.C. if the originals took place in cali. Bethsda, im ashamed.