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Posted January 15, 2014
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Siannah: How about blaming those who have the power in their hands, aka the customers and where they put (or don't at all / pirates) their money? The data about how much Defender's Quest sold on Steam vs anywhere else, is old by now - I'm not re-linking it yet again...

DRM-free is still just a niche, not the main goal. Don't know what's so hard to understand about that nor where the data is proving that it isn't so.
EDIT: To hell with it, I'm removing all I wrote here before, because it's not productive. I'm done refuting the same nonsensical arguments. If people like Jonestown Flavoured Kool-Aid, they're welcome to drink it.

Enjoy your DRM! Mazel tov! King of the world! See you down at the pub with the JManga and Rhapsody crowd.
Post edited January 15, 2014 by IAmSinistar
Posted January 15, 2014
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Siannah: How about blaming those who have the power in their hands, aka the customers and where they put (or don't at all / pirates) their money? The data about how much Defender's Quest sold on Steam vs anywhere else, is old by now - I'm not re-linking it yet again...

DRM-free is still just a niche, not the main goal. Don't know what's so hard to understand about that nor where the data is proving that it isn't so.
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IAmSinistar: EDIT: To hell with it, I'm removing all I wrote here before, because it's not productive. I'm done refuting the same nonsensical arguments. If people like Jonestown Flavoured Kool-Aid, they're welcome to drink it.

Enjoy your DRM! Mazel tov! King of the world! See you down at the pub with the JManga and Rhapsody crowd.
I liked what you wrote.Pretty much said it all lol. +1 :).I aint saying anymore about this. No point.
Posted January 15, 2014
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IAmSinistar: Quite the load of specious argument and unproven assertion, capped once again with the "it's so obvious this is the way of the world" arrogance one has come to expect in these arguments. People do so love to feel they are on the winning team, and then to use that position as a blunt instrument against anyone else. Keep feeling that way, right up until the day your precious service vanishes from beneath you and you are left high and dry. I'm sure by then there will be others you can pledge your ill-informed fealty to by then, and you can keep the cycle of bad consumer decisions going.
Love how you took a factual reason for focusing sales on one portal over another and turned it into this ... defensive emotional rant.

Nowhere was Siannah even arguing a preference for one service over the other, but merely arguing that the sales numbers on one are a good reason for devs to focus on that one.
Post edited January 15, 2014 by Pheace
Posted January 15, 2014
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IAmSinistar: Quite the load of specious argument and unproven assertion, capped once again with the "it's so obvious this is the way of the world" arrogance one has come to expect in these arguments. People do so love to feel they are on the winning team, and then to use that position as a blunt instrument against anyone else. Keep feeling that way, right up until the day your precious service vanishes from beneath you and you are left high and dry. I'm sure by then there will be others you can pledge your ill-informed fealty to by then, and you can keep the cycle of bad consumer decisions going.
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Pheace: Love how you took a factual reason for focusing sales on one portal over another and turned it into this ... defensive emotional rant.

Nowhere was Siannah even arguing a preference for one service over the other, but merely arguing that the sales numbers on one are a good reason for devs to focus on that one.
I think he is a fanboy ;) It's perfect explanation .
Posted January 15, 2014
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Pheace: Love how you took a factual reason for focusing sales on one portal over another and turned it into this ... defensive emotional rant.

Nowhere was Siannah even arguing a preference for one service over the other, but merely arguing that the sales numbers on one are a good reason for devs to focus on that one.
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Skysect: I think he is a fanboy ;) It's perfect explanation .
Which one? :P
Posted January 15, 2014
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Niggles:
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ShadowWulfe: Because you need to get with the program. Get in line. Wait your turn.

On a lighter note, I guess this just means I'll wait for it to be on sale here at some point in the distant future.
Same here, I didn't find out about the game till recently, but I wouldn't have bought on day 1 release anyway. I do the same for Steam/other client games- most games are not worth the price tags put on by sellers/devs.
Posted January 15, 2014
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Skysect: I think he is a fanboy ;) It's perfect explanation .
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Niggles: Which one? :P
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Pheace: Nowhere was Siannah even arguing a preference for one service over the other, but merely arguing that the sales numbers on one are a good reason for devs to focus on that one.
This . What a stupid reason . They are really classified , DRM-free gamers are second class .
Posted January 15, 2014
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IAmSinistar: Quite the load of specious argument and unproven assertion, capped once again with the "it's so obvious this is the way of the world" arrogance one has come to expect in these arguments. People do so love to feel they are on the winning team, and then to use that position as a blunt instrument against anyone else. Keep feeling that way, right up until the day your precious service vanishes from beneath you and you are left high and dry. I'm sure by then there will be others you can pledge your ill-informed fealty to by then, and you can keep the cycle of bad consumer decisions going.
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Pheace: Love how you took a factual reason for focusing sales on one portal over another and turned it into this ... defensive emotional rant.

Nowhere was Siannah even arguing a preference for one service over the other, but merely arguing that the sales numbers on one are a good reason for devs to focus on that one.
Both you and Siannah have been saying similar things.
Posted January 15, 2014
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Niggles: Both you and Siannah have been saying similar things.
Cool story brah? Or is there a point to that statement?
Posted January 15, 2014
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Niggles: I liked what you wrote.Pretty much said it all lol. +1 :).I aint saying anymore about this. No point.
Ta mate, and I'm with you, this topic is as palatable as dried-out meatloaf now. And just as nourishing. ;)
Posted January 16, 2014
I consider Steam to be a real pestilence over gamerkind, I boycott the thing since 2004 and will not change anything in my attitude, not even for Banner Saga. I have no problems waiting some days, even weeks longer for a proper DRM-free version. But I have problems with games bringing the full experience only to those who preorder (even if it's "only" one lame character and a silly piece mojo necklace - it's about principles). It's a real shame that our pirating brethren get all the stuff from the Steam-version in handy DRM-free package now...
Posted January 16, 2014
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Pheace: Cool story brah? Or is there a point to that statement?
"Steam/GOG User"

Yeah... that's reason enough for anyone to ignore you.

You're a troll and a moron who just drops into threads like these to say things you know will offend people here, because people on GOG boards are obviously in favor of no-DRM. I've spoke to Niggles about this earlier I believe, there's a whole bunch of these self-obsessed contrarians on the GOG boards who just come here to to say things they know will not be liked by those against DRM. You're all trying to make yourselves look cool, edgy and unique, like a teenager getting a tattoo without his parent's permission.
Post edited January 16, 2014 by Crosmando
Posted January 16, 2014
I must admit that, in current situation, I am quite glad GOG didn't released TBS yet...
Pirates, by uploading cracked version only 2 hours after release (maybe even sooner), added very important example of whole DRM nonsense, but nobody can argument it is because of GOG and/or DRM-free version now...

I think nobody lost too much: for devs it is not so important, where gamers actually buy the game..
GOG maybe lost few customers, but as I usually see a lot of comments like "looks great, wishlisted..." in after-release forums, I tend to think, there are only very few of us who buy games on release day for full price here... And others will wait for discount anyway... They just could annouce it comes here when pre-order elsewhere started...
But GOG now have very nice and strong example for persuading other publishers to release their games DRM-free...
This is IMHO much more valuable for them... And yet it gives argument for GOG like e.g. to get all goodies from devs as a satisfaction bonus because of the delay...
Posted January 16, 2014
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etna87: http://www.pcgames.de/Broken-Age-PC-257065/Tests/Broken-Age-im-Test-1105098/
Test in German, 76%.
Short summary: Nice atmosphere, many crazy ideas, great music, but puzzles are very simple, the story is quite short, and a lot of characters are not that interesting or unimportant.
Even shorter summary: Nice, but not great.

I think basically, this test reiterates the opinions voiced in this thread; the main difference in perception seems to arise from the fact that people value the various aspects differently.
Since I did not back the game (and won't buy it for now), I can only comment on the graphics. While I do like some cartoony styles (for example, I think Bastion looks great and I also liked the style of the MI2 special edition), I'm not a great fan of the "childrens' book" style of DF.
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Grargar: I think this post belong to this thread.
Urgs... how the hell did that happen? You are right, of course. Sorry. I must have had two tabs open and then confused them or something.

Anyway, I'm glad the Banner Saga is received so well, it will go immediately to my "buy&play at some point" list.
Posted January 16, 2014
On the bright side, at least we know that the game is coming to GOG. I bought Dust: An Elysian Tail and Guacamelee from Steam (both great games BTW), because I had no idea if they were even coming to GOG. I still ended up re-buying them here, but if I had known beforehand, then I wouldn't have bought from Steam. They really need to put out a list of upcoming games, at least new and/or indie games. An official one.

As for The Banner Saga itself, it really looks like the sort of game I'd buy on day one. If I were a backer though, I'd probably be pissed that they made no mention of the DRM-free release taking a backseat to Steam on their project page.
Post edited January 16, 2014 by HK_47
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