Posted August 27, 2013
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still sober
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From Brazil
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Momo1991
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Registered: Feb 2013
From United States
Posted August 27, 2013
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Niggles
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Registered: Apr 2009
From Australia
Posted August 27, 2013
Do we really need yet another indie store? ;)
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Gonchi
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RaggieRags
Schattenjäger
Registered: Dec 2009
From Finland
Posted August 28, 2013
I've kept my eye on ShinyLoot for a while but haven't bought anything yet. This sale might finally tip the scale for me. More DRM-free stores are always welcome.
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Gonchi
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Registered: Dec 2010
From Uruguay
Posted August 28, 2013
Kaptain Brawe: A Brawe New World is $2.00 as one of the daily deals. I don't think the game has been offered elsewhere DRM-Free.
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IAmSinistar
Queso de Espacio
Registered: May 2013
From United States
Posted August 28, 2013
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hedwards
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Posted August 28, 2013
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If it says "Live", it's GFWL. It doesn't say Live so it's not GFWL.
You're not supposed to have to read the logo to know what it means. Then again, nobody has ever accused Microsoft of knowing what they're doing or being competent at marketing.
I'm not sure we really have that many of them. Plus, with the Bigfish store closed a spot opened up.
Post edited August 28, 2013 by hedwards
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timppu
Favorite race: Formula__One
Registered: Jun 2011
From Finland
Posted August 28, 2013
I must say I'm a bit confused. So their "No added DRM" does not mean the same as DRM-free? Some of their games still require online activation, or what?
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adambiser
fascimania.com
Registered: Dec 2009
From United States
Posted August 28, 2013
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EDIT:
There is a search filter for "DRM Type", it's choices are "None" and "One Time Key Activation".
Post edited August 28, 2013 by adambiser
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timppu
Favorite race: Formula__One
Registered: Jun 2011
From Finland
Posted August 28, 2013
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Pass. It's yet another GamersGate (but without AAA titles, I guess).
Post edited August 28, 2013 by timppu
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fascimania.com
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From United States
Posted August 28, 2013
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Pass. It's yet another GamersGate (but without AAA titles, I guess).
One time key activation seems to be the only DRM they've allowed so far. Whether that just means the key is only needed for online play like it does for some of GOG's games will depend on the game
EDIT:
But of course, you're welcome to use whatever store you want. :)
Post edited August 28, 2013 by adambiser
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HypersomniacLive
The Reluctant Voter
Registered: Sep 2011
From Vatican City
Posted August 28, 2013
Here's a recent interview with Chris Palmarozzi of ShinyLoot for anyone interested - addresses ShinyLoot's stand on DRM.
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From United States
Posted August 28, 2013
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One time key activation seems to be the only DRM they've allowed so far. Whether that just means the key is only needed for online play like it does for some of GOG's games will depend on the game
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timppu
Favorite race: Formula__One
Registered: Jun 2011
From Finland
Posted August 28, 2013
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Pass. It's yet another GamersGate (but without AAA titles, I guess).
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One time key activation seems to be the only DRM they've allowed so far. Whether that just means the key is only needed for online play like it does for some of GOG's games will depend on the game
EDIT:
But of course, you're welcome to use whatever store you want. :)
Mentioning "one time key activation" with online game components doesn't make sense, as naturally with online (multiplayer) games you are validated every time you start playing.
I guess the linked interview clarified it more, ie. they allow (single-player) DRM as long as it requires authentication only once. I just hope they were not trying to be cute there and soon reveal "Well, we meant you only need to authenticate once every time you start the game, hee, hee, hee...".
So at best they sell like Steamworks games which don't have additional third-party DRM, and have actually functional offline mode. But still far from GOG's lack of DRM.
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Because we also support minimal DRM (one time key validations), we sell games that other DRM-free stores who don't support key distribution cannot sell. A great example of a popular, minimal-DRM, Linux supported title is SpaceChem. These security measures are non-intrusive and require very little extra effort from the customer, while allowing the developer to still protect their game.
Oh well, not my loss. I personally see zero reason to buy pretty much anything from them, YMMV. Just wanted a clarification as so many others in this thread also seemed to think it is a new DRM-free store akin GOG and DotEmu, while in reality it is not.
Post edited August 28, 2013 by timppu