Now introduce DLC you now have "parts down the road" Book company advances are ~$10000 atm for a first novel and can be paid before you even start writing...
publishing costs see http://www.blot.co.uk/book/costs.html and thats for self publishing with typesetting etc £2500 for 500 copies thats 5 quid a copy and thats for a SMALL expensive job done by individuals 4x the amount of pages in Hard instead of paper back with images etc is only 5500 thats 3 grand for for 1500 books (so while those first 500 cost you 5 quid each the next 1500 cost 2 quid each but thats a lie since you'd have 2000HB not PB books for that PB's will be a lot less by then) opening run for publishers is usually 20-100k books

Game company advances are 90%-120% of the cost of production (AAA game 12-120 million depends on platform) to get them you must reach the milestones the publisher sets AND are always in lieu you don't get your first check till you hit the first milestone...
you can get DVD 1000 units glass mastered and pressed for £375 so the per unit cost without case+bumf is less than books (lowest cost I can find for DVD's is 17p a disc for 200k which is a decent first release for a game still for just the disc) But the upfront costs are much much higher Oh hey look you took it to extremes GOTY will usually include the DLC and the deluxe version of the game, Ultimate? you must mean complete which is the GOTY+any aditional DLC added since it's release and so on.. and heres the thing it will usually cost less than buying the last edition + the DLC... WIN!

Let's make this simpler.

Do you agree with (as per the example in the article) the current state where companies like Gamestop sell 'used' games for 5 dollars less than new price, buy it for ~23 and about $30 goes into Gamestop's pocket?

Because that's where a large part of the Used Market is right now.

It's not person to person sales used sales anymore. This is large companies making big profits on used markets.

Well the parts are something you need, the DLC isn't. And the cost can be on both sides, both on new and on used. Or it can be on one side only. Someone buys new, doesn't buy DLC then resells. The guy that buys used likes it and buys ALL the DLC. Or the other way. Anyway, this car thing needs to stop, it's a bad analogy. Not the worse but not nearly good enough

Thanks for the link. I was/am more interested in widespread books how much does it actually cost and how much publisher make. But it's interesting none the less. I was under the (wrong) impression that authors get a percent of the sales not a fixed sum of money, but I guess that's the way book publisher exploit new authors.
Anyway, while it's true that the original investment is smaller for books, so is their price compared to an AAA title. If I understand right The Witcher 2 sold over 1 mil in the first months. That's about 50 million there. Of course some of that money goes to the publisher, stores, etc. But I think everyone made a good profit there.
End of the line, my opinion: both books and games are overpriced, and both make a TON of money from new sales.

I was just making fun of their naming process. Even new releases can't be just GAME anymore. It's still double dipping. Hell, you seen that latest "Star Trek Remastered!!!"? It's not that much different that what GOG does in a way. Setting even Extreme/Ultimate/GOTY editions aside GOG is a good example of games double dipping :D

Actually.. I'll ammend your statement..... Upto now, with their classic preferences Gog has pretty much a unique market.. old games, great, no double dipping.. they are old games that generally haven't been on sale for a long time, a good market.... HOWEVER, now that they are diluting their catalogue with games that are going to END UP BEING QUITE RECENT, regardless of the supposed 2-3 year window.. then YES... Gog will be guilty of helping games 'double dip'.

The best thing to do from now on is lay off buying games.... you'll get better, fixed versions of them for a fraction of the price, with all the DRM BS ripped out and will end up with a game you can install til eternity.. as opposed to activation servers being taken down and access to our purchases denied.

I very rarly buy new games now... it's not worth it anymore... I'm sick of all the bullshit hoop these bastard publisher force you through just to plat a dumbass game... plus I'm not installing all of the shitty software that there want to contaminate my system with.

you should have a blog, id read it.

The writer gets 2-7.5% of the profit (notice it's not of the net unless you books are huge.. JKR for example gets hers off the net) BUT you first have to pay back the advance now say your advance is $10,000 you get 7.5% and this is a fairly expensive book so you get 50c a copy you would have to sell 20,000 copies before you get any royalties, 20k books would put you on the times best seller list btw

I felt the same way as you. As I was already a bit pissed by their news, so this condescending crap made me cancel both my pre-orders.

The "parts down the road" as something "extra", you car broke you pay to have it repaired, 0 day DLC are something removed from the game, it's like if to use the auto-radio in a used car (or the wheel) you had to re-buy them from the car maker.

That's what I said more or less. It's simply a bad analogy. You can't compare the two.

While in this case it seems like the DLC is something removed from the game, zero day DLC doesn't have to mean this. Development on a game is done quite a while before release so they do have plenty of time to work on DLC to have ready on release.

I love Gamestop, whatcheyoutalking about Willis?

Hey stop using my name....oh wait....

But yes Gamestop is awesome for me. They are not pushy at all and are nerds as well so yeah...

YEAH! how dare he want money spent on the game to go to his company!But um seriously i read the full post..um whats the problem?

Im sure HE does not think your STUPID...But after reading what you posted an calling him a douche i know what i think of ya :)

Day one bonus dlc for free is good way to fight the pirates to.Pre ordering mine from Amazon.Gamestop gets no money from me .

Oh brother, this is utter crap, why "should it be" going to publishers and devs? They have no more divine right to it than authors or musicians have to copies they've disposed of (aka sold). Seriously, fuck them and their "I'm so special/the work I do is so special and hard" attitudes.
Are you kidding? Do you really think the pirates don't get DLC too? No, it's yet again a way to make the purchased copy suck more than the pirated copy.

I didn't just read his post, I read between the lines, that's why I'm offended. The situation as it stands is carefully crafted to make him look "innocent" and like the injured party, except he's the one who created the situation in the first place. It's offering the stick, not the carrot, and calling it a carrot is, frankly, insulting. You can choose to be fine with it if you wish, as for me, I say, "Fuck you Mr. Shilling."

Ok...

Curt Schilling said about the DLC that in the business they need to develope games that people want to buy right away.

So if i understand, him he is saying the rest of the game isnt good enough for customers to buy it right away.