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Profanity: Speaking of SR3, what exactly is censored for you, German fellas?
"The Violence" it is made "low" as in "Low Violence Version"
That means probably no blood, in the worst case oil or stars instead of blood.

Seriously though? I have not the slightest idea as censorship in Germany isn't that much of a problem. (Censorship has never been if you are an adult, know were to look and don't want Sodomy, Nazi-symbolism, incest, rape and snuff content.)

Steam makes it a problem though. But, you know, it's Steam
Post edited November 30, 2012 by Khadgar42
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htown1980: What if the next 5 indie bundles are all DRM free?

Will that be an I told you so moment?
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thebum06: No, he's not saying that there won't be more DRM free bundles. He's saying that developers on the edge won't be able to be convinced any longer. I don't personally agree with him, but many of you guys are arguing against things he never said.
I understand that, but if the next 100 indie bundles are all DRM free and have all the main indie releases then surely that is proof that he is wrong? 100 is extreme, I am proposing 5.
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orcishgamer: I could actually see it make it harder to convince devs that have done really well with games like Braid, Bastion, and Limbo (just examples, not saying these devs are bad apples in any way, just examples of the level of success I'm speaking of) to do the multiplatform work and rip out all the Steam DRM hooks on the PC version. If they're kind of in the middle of the road success-wise they might simply opt to not be part of any DRM free bundles and wait and see if they can get in on a DRM bundle.
Exactly... =(
right carry on the argument , it will all let us pass time till hib 7 comes in and normalizes things
So, I bought it, got one code for all four games and CoH expansions and another for Saints Row. I already owned CoH and thought I'd end up with codes for the games i already owned to give away, but nope. It's just one code for the bundle, not multiple codes for separate games.
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El_Caz: So, I bought it, got one code for all four games and CoH expansions and another for Saints Row. I already owned CoH and thought I'd end up with codes for the games i already owned to give away, but nope. It's just one code for the bundle, not multiple codes for separate games.
That's how HB have generally always done things. The HB Android 4 is the exception I believe.
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El_Caz: So, I bought it, got one code for all four games and CoH expansions and another for Saints Row. I already owned CoH and thought I'd end up with codes for the games i already owned to give away, but nope. It's just one code for the bundle, not multiple codes for separate games.
This is how Humble Bundle works, you don't get separate keys for each game. I personally think it's better that way.

EDIT: Ninja'ed.
Post edited November 30, 2012 by Neobr10
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El_Caz: So, I bought it, got one code for all four games and CoH expansions and another for Saints Row. I already owned CoH and thought I'd end up with codes for the games i already owned to give away, but nope. It's just one code for the bundle, not multiple codes for separate games.
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Neobr10: This is how Humble Bundle works, you don't get separate keys for each game. I personally think it's better that way.

EDIT: Ninja'ed.
Hmm, I'd forgotten about that, there's pretty much no reason for me to buy this now aside from sound tracks. Who the hell doesn't have at least some of these games already? I think this is the only non-Android bundle I'll have missed...
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thebum06: No, he's not saying that there won't be more DRM free bundles. He's saying that developers on the edge won't be able to be convinced any longer. I don't personally agree with him, but many of you guys are arguing against things he never said.
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htown1980: I understand that, but if the next 100 indie bundles are all DRM free and have all the main indie releases then surely that is proof that he is wrong? 100 is extreme, I am proposing 5.
No, certainly not, you can have umpteen indie bundles, if it keeps some devs from even considering DRM free bundles then it's had a measurable, negative effect. If games like Limbo disappear from DRM-free bundles, then it doesn't matter how many Dungeons of Dredmore type games still get released, the DRM free bundle scene has still lost something important.
Post edited November 30, 2012 by orcishgamer
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htown1980: I understand that, but if the next 100 indie bundles are all DRM free and have all the main indie releases then surely that is proof that he is wrong? 100 is extreme, I am proposing 5.
The thing is, they'll almost certainly run another Steam only bundle at some point even if not from a big publisher. Some developers that would previously have gone DRM-free to be able to get into the HIB will now just go "Nah... I'll just wait and go in the Steam bundle."
The Humble Bundle guys used to be rather important in the DRM-free movement, they've lost that now. They're basically just DRM-neutral like Desura in terms of stance ("we won't put any DRM on games but if the developer puts DRM on we'll sell it anyway").
Post edited December 01, 2012 by SirPrimalform
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Kristian: No, if it didn't hurt it in the long run I would be wrong. Simple as that. But I nowhere said the regular bundles would stop.
You definitely strongly suggested the the regular bundles would be practically gone though so to me you're still spewing BS. You've said things such as :

" I am seriously worried that this means the Humble Bundle will have produced its last DRM free debut and its last Linux/cross-platform debut."

"The Humble Bundle guys have so far been able to demand that a bunch of devs release their games as DRM-free and multi-paltform. They will no longer be able to do that "

"What happens when the next developer wants it that way and then the next and the next. They agreed to let THQ do this and now they will have to agree to let anyone else do this and so now now otherwise reluctant company will EVER agree to DRM free/cross-platform games."

"They can say so all they want but this WILL hurt the normal bundles "

"They COULD do that, but now they let THQ in. Other developers and publishers aren't going to agree to their terms now. They want to be treated equally with THQ."

"I am doubtful that is limited to AAA companies."

"Bad things are 1000x as likely to happen in any given situation as good things. Always expect the worst humanly possible."

"The next bundles with be the Humble Origin Bundle, The Humble Securom Bundle, The Humble UPlay Bundle and the Humble GFWL Bundle. Heck they even let GFWL through in this first bundle. YUCK."
Post edited December 01, 2012 by CaptainGyro
And the counter got past $2.7 million in less than two days right this moment. I guess now it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to think this will outperform Indie Bundle V?
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koima57: I'll get low rated as hell for writing this but damn, that's a lot of "DRM Free" entitlement and whining from our community.. As far as i can tell, that's "Humble" enough for THQ to contribute to charity and setting such a low price tag for their products, a real steal of a deal. Soo, take it or leave it. Period!
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koima57: entitlement
Yeah. Fuck you. Customers are wanting are product that they want and not buying what companies are telling them to buy? That's not entitlement. Well, unless you are talking about the companies feeling like they are entitled to money even when customers do not like the product.
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Kristian: No, if it didn't hurt it in the long run I would be wrong. Simple as that. But I nowhere said the regular bundles would stop.
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CaptainGyro: You definitely strongly suggested the the regular bundles would be practically gone though so to me you're still spewing BS.
Sorry, but for the most part there you've completely misunderstood him.

I'll explain this one
" I am seriously worried that this means the Humble Bundle will have produced its last DRM free debut and its last Linux/cross-platform debut."
He means that the DRM-free bundles will contain games that were DRM-free and cross platform already and developers that don't want to release DRM-free versions or ports will stick to Steam only Humble Bundles.

Prior to this, several games made a DRM-free and cross platform debut with the Humble Bundle because their policy required it. I didn't pay so much attention to the cross platform stuff, but things like Jamestown and SPAZ all had DRM prior to being in a Humble Bundle. Who knows, the devs might have opted to be in a non DRM-free bundle if this precedent had been set earlier.

So yeah, he never said regular bundles would stop.
Post edited December 01, 2012 by SirPrimalform
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CaptainGyro: You definitely strongly suggested the the regular bundles would be practically gone though so to me you're still spewing BS.
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SirPrimalform: Sorry, but for the most part there you've completely misunderstood him.

I'll explain this one
" I am seriously worried that this means the Humble Bundle will have produced its last DRM free debut and its last Linux/cross-platform debut."
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SirPrimalform: He means that the DRM-free bundles will contain games that were DRM-free and cross platform already and developers that don't want to release DRM-free versions or ports will stick to Steam only Humble Bundles.

Prior to this, several games made a DRM-free and cross platform debut with the Humble Bundle because their policy required it. I didn't pay so much attention to the cross platform stuff, but things like Jamestown and SPAZ all had DRM prior to being in a Humble Bundle. Who knows, the devs might have opted to be in a non DRM-free bundle if this precedent had been set earlier.

So yeah, he never said regular bundles would stop.
Cool. You told me something I already knew once again. I didn't say that he said the regular bundles would stop
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CaptainGyro: Cool. You told me something I already knew once again. I didn't say that he said the regular bundles would stop
You practically did, stop being a dick:


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CaptainGyro: You definitely strongly suggested the the regular bundles would be practically gone though so to me you're still spewing BS.
No he didn't. Stop acting all smug and acknowledge the fact that you misunderstood him.
Post edited December 01, 2012 by SirPrimalform