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nmillar:
You said:
“I've explained this a number of times already. It made sense to kill TwilightBard and QuadrAlien since you already knew mine and Vitek's roles (and that we were no real threat). If there were any power roles remaining, it could only be TwilightBard and QuadrAlien!”

I do not know your & Vitek’s roles.
I only know the roles you’ve claimed.
If you remember, I questioned your claim at the time.
MORE MISREPRESENTATION.

“Yes, Orryyrro is the obvious scapegoat since he'd already gathered suspicion from a number of people. I'm guessing you're now claiming to be a scapegoat, but there has been very little suspicion of you until recently.”

So you weren’t suspicious of me when you attacked me day 3?

“Why exactly are you trying to confuse people with useless lines of questioning? This seems like you're trying to distract people from the points raised against you. There's no point interrogating me or Vitek since we've both been proves as town. It is you and Orryyrro under the spotlight here.”

First, you’re only proven as town if my comment about you prolonging the day to watch me squirm is wrong.
Second, I don’t see Orry under the spotlight.

“Fair enough that there's nothing suspicious about your investigation of TwilightBard, but why did you refuse to share this information previously? The point about the bandages in QuadrAlien's investigation still stands - this information would confirm QuadrAlien as a doctor, whereas all the other investigations give no clues as to possible roles.”

Again, I have already answered both of these points.
I did not immediately reveal Twilight’s investigation as he was dead & his name & role were announced by Baz.
In light of this, my results seemed somewhat redundant.
I also gave what answer I can about the bandages in an earlier post (I believe it was addressed to Vitek.)
AGAIN, Ignoring posts that you find inconvenient.

[i] “Already mentioned above, but I'll repeat it again:

I've explained this a number of times already. It made sense to kill TwilightBard and QuadrAlien since you already knew mine and Vitek's roles (and that we were no real threat). If there were any power roles remaining, it could only be TwilightBard and QuadrAlien!” [/i]

And again, I DO NOT know your role, just the role you have claimed.
You also claim I was lucky enough to guess Vitek’s role, while at the same time dismissing the idea that I had the bad luck to investigate 2 dead guys.
From what I have seen of other games, a 50% success rate on investigations is better than average.

“Again you're implying that I'm not town, despite evidence to the contrary. If I was mafia, I could just vote for Orryyrro and win the game. Likewise, Vitek could just move his vote to you and win the game.”

Indeed you could, but as you have already claimed, you get fun out of pressuring people.
Perhaps when you get bored of it, the game will end….

“Evidence is the wrong word. I am justifying my vote for you.”

But when you have to resort to misrepresentation & convenient lapses in reading / memory, the idea of justification wears a little thin.
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nmillar: Are you seriously claiming there's some rule that mafia must lie 100% of the time? A good mafia strategy would be to throw in some truths in their post in order to make them appear town
Your numerous misrepresentations & omissions come very close to looking like mixing in lies.

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nmillar: I was very aggressive towards Vitek earlier in the day, but he remained calm for the duration, which led me to re-read alot of the thread, and I found posts that lead me to believe you are mafia.
But apparently not my posts that are ‘inconvenient’ for your theory?

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nmillar: Why exactly are you trying to confuse people with useless lines of questioning?
Bearing in mind the questionably selective maner in which you refer to my posts, I could well ask you the same question.

Frankly, the amount of misinformation in your attack undermines your whole case.
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Rodzaju: You said:
“I've explained this a number of times already. It made sense to kill TwilightBard and QuadrAlien since you already knew mine and Vitek's roles (and that we were no real threat). If there were any power roles remaining, it could only be TwilightBard and QuadrAlien!”

I do not know your & Vitek’s roles.
I only know the roles you’ve claimed.
If you remember, I questioned your claim at the time.
MORE MISREPRESENTATION.
And ignored the evidence supporting my claim.

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Rodzaju: “Yes, Orryyrro is the obvious scapegoat since he'd already gathered suspicion from a number of people. I'm guessing you're now claiming to be a scapegoat, but there has been very little suspicion of you until recently.”

So you weren’t suspicious of me when you attacked me day 3?
MISREPRESENTATION! I said "very little suspicion", not "none at all".

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Rodzaju: “Why exactly are you trying to confuse people with useless lines of questioning? This seems like you're trying to distract people from the points raised against you. There's no point interrogating me or Vitek since we've both been proves as town. It is you and Orryyrro under the spotlight here.”

First, you’re only proven as town if my comment about you prolonging the day to watch me squirm is wrong.
Second, I don’t see Orry under the spotlight.
If that was the case, I think the mod might have stepped in by now. Orryyrro is not under the spotlight as far as I'm concerned, because I haven't found any posts that make me believe he is mafia.

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Rodzaju: “Fair enough that there's nothing suspicious about your investigation of TwilightBard, but why did you refuse to share this information previously? The point about the bandages in QuadrAlien's investigation still stands - this information would confirm QuadrAlien as a doctor, whereas all the other investigations give no clues as to possible roles.”

Again, I have already answered both of these points.
I did not immediately reveal Twilight’s investigation as he was dead & his name & role were announced by Baz.
In light of this, my results seemed somewhat redundant.
I also gave what answer I can about the bandages in an earlier post (I believe it was addressed to Vitek.)
AGAIN, Ignoring posts that you find inconvenient.
Please point me in the direction of this post, as I seem to have missed it. The point however still stands; the 'bandages' shouldn't have been mentioned in your PM if you were just a flavour cop. This is very much bordering on role cop territory.

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Rodzaju: [i] “Already mentioned above, but I'll repeat it again:

I've explained this a number of times already. It made sense to kill TwilightBard and QuadrAlien since you already knew mine and Vitek's roles (and that we were no real threat). If there were any power roles remaining, it could only be TwilightBard and QuadrAlien!” [/i]

And again, I DO NOT know your role, just the role you have claimed.
You also claim I was lucky enough to guess Vitek’s role, while at the same time dismissing the idea that I had the bad luck to investigate 2 dead guys.
From what I have seen of other games, a 50% success rate on investigations is better than average.
I dismiss it because I believe it is a lie. Anyway, using intuition to work out somebody's character is very different from the game of chance that is picking a target to investigate. These are two different kinds of luck, and are therefore not comparable.

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Rodzaju: “Again you're implying that I'm not town, despite evidence to the contrary. If I was mafia, I could just vote for Orryyrro and win the game. Likewise, Vitek could just move his vote to you and win the game.”

Indeed you could, but as you have already claimed, you get fun out of pressuring people.
Perhaps when you get bored of it, the game will end….
Again, mod intervention would be likely in this scenario.

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Rodzaju: “Evidence is the wrong word. I am justifying my vote for you.”

But when you have to resort to misrepresentation & convenient lapses in reading / memory, the idea of justification wears a little thin.
I have presented a number of reasons against you, and it is now up to Vitek to decide whether that is enough to change his vote.

Again, I will point out that nobody has yet provided a valid reason to vote for Orryyrro.
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nmillar: I have presented a number of reasons against you, and it is now up to Vitek to decide whether that is enough to change his vote.

Again, I will point out that nobody has yet provided a valid reason to vote for Orryyrro.
It definitely doesn't help Rod's case that his whole argument of him not being scum involves accusing the more or less confirmed town member who is voting for him.
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Orryyrro: It definitely doesn't help Rod's case that his whole argument of him not being scum involves accusing the more or less confirmed town member who is voting for him.
Like I said, I have presented my case and it's up to Vitek now. I'll let Rodzaju keep digging his hole all by himself now.
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nmillar: And ignored the evidence supporting my claim.
I haven't seen any evidence supporting your claim to be vanilla.

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nmillar: If that was the case, I think the mod might have stepped in by now.
The mod has reminded us that time is getting short.
Why would he force you to end the game?

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nmillar: Orryyrro is not under the spotlight as far as I'm concerned, because I haven't found any posts that make me believe he is mafia.
That is my point.
It's hard enough to find any posts worthy of the name.

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nmillar: Please point me in the direction of this post, as I seem to have missed it. The point however still stands; the 'bandages' shouldn't have been mentioned in your PM if you were just a flavour cop. This is very much bordering on role cop territory.
Post 633:
"I did think the Bandages oddly specific at the time.
Perhaps Baz wrote that after he had been killed so it made no difference.
Frankly I don't know"

And post 634:
"Before you ask, the bits that stuck out to me were:
Vitek - teddy bear, alrming rainbow decor, porcelain statue of ballet dancers.

Nmillar - mousetraps, the bed is the only comfy looking furniture in the whole room.

Twilight - Almost no furniture (Apart from the bed & chair, the room was empty, so where are his clothes?), no-one home but the chandalier fully lit.

Quad - Bandages, large freestanding mirror. "

You even quoted my post 634 in your post 635.
But now you claim to have missed it?

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nmillar: Anyway, using intuition to work out somebody's character is very different from the game of chance that is picking a target to investigate. These are two different kinds of luck, and are therefore not comparable.
So luck is only applicable if it supports your case?

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Rodzaju: Perhaps when you get bored of it, the game will end….
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nmillar: Again, mod intervention would be likely in this scenario.
Again, WHY?

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nmillar: Again, I will point out that nobody has yet provided a valid reason to vote for Orryyrro.
Apart from the FREQUENTLY provided reason that he is conspicously saying nothing, rather like a "no comment until I see my lawyer"?


And, just for the record, I didn't suspect Nmillar until he started going way over the top, including provably false/misleading statements against me.
What is that old Mafia axim?
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nmillar: I have presented a number of reasons against you, and it is now up to Vitek to decide whether that is enough to change his vote.

Again, I will point out that nobody has yet provided a valid reason to vote for Orryyrro.
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Orryyrro: It definitely doesn't help Rod's case that his whole argument of him not being scum involves accusing the more or less confirmed town member who is voting for him.
Um, No!
The only part of my defense that this relates to is refuting Nmillars proposal that I COULD have worked out the power roles in order to NK them.

Nice as it is to actually see you post, you could try to put a bit of accuracy into it.
Oh, sorry, I forgot, you want me dead too.
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Vitek:
I would just ask that, tedious & frustrating as it may be, read through the whole of the exchange between me & Nmillar.

Who is it that has been demonstrably bending the truth?
& why would he feel the need if he was so confident in his case?
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Rodzaju: Who is it that has been demonstrably bending the truth?
& why would he feel the need if he was so confident in his case?
I am building a case against you, and therefore highlight the bits that seem scummy. I haven't bent the truth at all; I've simply quoted the parts of your posts that support my theory. Nothing you have posted demonstrates beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are town; however there are several posts that look very scummy to me.

I'd also like to point out that there is nothing personal in any of my accusations, and all my posts should be taken in the context of the game. I apologise if it seems otherwise.
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Rodzaju: I would just ask that, tedious & frustrating as it may be, read through the whole of the exchange between me & Nmillar.

Who is it that has been demonstrably bending the truth?
& why would he feel the need if he was so confident in his case?
Be sure I am weighting this carefully and am still trying to decide whether shift my vote or not. There is quite a bit of thing going against you and a lot of them evn brought up by myself. I am still quite wary of Orryy. I have to check few things and I'll be reporting back later (or more likely tomorrow).
The "I dare say you never even spoke to Time!" votecount

Orryyrro - 2 - Vitek, Rodzaju
Rodzaju - 2 - Orryyrro, nmillar

With 4 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

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Vitek: ...
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Orryyrro: ...
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nmillar: ...
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Rodzaju: ...
It is six hours before sunset.
Question to Rod.
You claimed you got flavour on role of Quadr just because he was dead already but how come you haven't got the same for Twilight?
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Vitek: Question to Rod.
You claimed you got flavour on role of Quadr just because he was dead already but how come you haven't got the same for Twilight?
I don't know.
Maybe Baz wrote my report before processing the NK?
What sort of flavour would suggest tracker anyway?

Maybe that was the point of the bare room.
Maybe it was telling me that he doesn't spend much time in it?
Maybe the restrictive furnishing was suggestive of the post restiction?

Yeah, I'm clutching at straws here, but I don't really have a conclusive answer.
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Rodzaju: What sort of flavour would suggest tracker anyway?
Binoculars?
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Rodzaju: What sort of flavour would suggest tracker anyway?
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nmillar: Binoculars?
At a guess, I'd say if he was not in his room, he would have them with him.
Or maybe you can suggest it to Baz?