It is an absurd hypothetical sarcastic exemple. There were no possessive pronouns (and no passports) in the messages I got in this game.

Sorry, had misread the post (quickly, on mobile) as a misunderstanding on my exemple.

But to answer more precisely, there's only the elements given : "high heels" were female, and "lavender" was expected to be too (could it be something else than a perfume ?). My first knee-jerk reaction was to interpret the handkerchief as female, and the black boots as male, but both can be linked to the opposite gender as well. I also had spontaneously imagined the blond hair as female, for cliché reasons. And I have no idea what the silken threads refer to (but p1na may explain, if necessary).

I've re-checked the original phrasing, and there's not more to it. If the high heel killer and the handkerchief killer had swapped their roles, things would have been a tad different...

I understand the reason, its more in the vain that if Darko flip town then you could have a problem, as such not going for the one you are more certain about could prove a fatal move. In addition if DarkoD13 is truthful then a lynch is also the only way for scum to get him, making it both an ideal claim for scum and a tough lynch for town. Which is also why I am personally more inclined in the direction of lynching another of your targets before lynching one who may be an for scum impossible NK target.

As for flubbucket my primary reason for having lowered my attention to him is the whole Pazzer thng, so I guess I can also accept him as an option for lynch.

And yea as before I only have one person mentioned in my role PM, so wouldn't know any of what you are defining and I still have a hard time imagining what my role is doing at a ski resort, but heck it is a Joe game, but still that is also a small part as to why I am not inclined to pick your first target, if that makes sense.

I would like to draw your hysterical attention to point number 14.

All apologies should be in the form of cash.

It... doesn't. But I don't care much. I'm also a bit indifferent to which one of my suspects gets lynched. There is also a ski tracks argument, for me, in favor of Darko's lynch, but that's not a strong argument. As for what happens if he flips town, for me it's the same as for what happens in any other suspect flips town. The only difference is on what happens if he flips scum, which would give nice bonus that another scum flip wouldn't give. Also, chances are there are two mafiosi amongst my three main suspects, so the chances of town flip don't terrify me much.

But yes, as JMich is the only one who belongs to both the category of "more likely to have an undisclosed night action" and "most likely to be scum", he's a marginally better candidate for the Handkerchief Murder. I'd mostly expect Darko (or Flub) to be the other remaining mafioso.

But also, if we lynch a mafioso today, I'd be happy if he turns out to not be the Handkerchief Killer, as this would still allow P1na to identify the last (?) mafioso during the night. Right now, it's the only one who can be identified though theft, and, as far as I know, night investigation in general (unless CSPVG comes back with something else than a fart next time). Then again, this would depend on the mafia's murder strategy tonight (basically : will they go after him to prevent the handkerchief to be found, or after me to prevent more hints gathered from a crime scene)...



I suppose we can send the apologies to Joe's bank, because taboo, and all that. But I had interpreted it as "at least one of them" being female. Because there is not just one killer. Normally, any mafia member can kill (if only because the last survivor of them must still nightkill), and we already have two killers (one of them, indeed female, died during N2).

So, are you suggesting that all mafia members are female, or are you suggesting that some mafia members can't kill ?

I'm merely quoting the item from the first day.

I also find it (the item) dubious in that such a distinction should be made in a game where it would be clear the team would have to be 1) all female or 2) unable to NK if the murderess was lynched.

Shall we just assume it is true and move on?? Or deem it unworthy to waste time and effort on??

You forgot option 3. Assume Red_Baron is lying.

So you think it is the case, Jmich?

Not really. I just think that any certainties in a Joe game should be double checked. Especially in case the aunt wishes to kill her nephew, so she does bring him to the ski resort, even though he is an inspector.

Haha, sounds like the plot for a splendid crime-novel. Though in my case it would be even more of a mystery I guess, given that the only one who is aware that I apparently forced a nephew along is the nephew and my role itself would have certain limits.

As for the other stuff I can't really discuss it, but allow me to indulge in the mention of THE and the time it was made where only one person had been murdered.

Also I recall something about another mentioning similar should not be named as my own unknown to discuss.

Ignoring that I am inclined to consider the magician part of the scum team (again if Joe is trustworthy :P) and he is male, so we are likely just dealing with a mixed scum team.

Hmm DarkoD13, flubbucket & JMich

I can't say I understand Telika's reasoning.
If I flip town, you will have killed a commuter who can't be nightkilled (with the possible exception of a numbers loophole) and not verified anyone.
If I flip mafia, you claim you'll verify both P1na and CSPVG as town even though either of them could still be a mafia role/flavor cop? (unless scum can't target each other, in which case never mind)
This kind of feels like your "lynch me and then lynch nmillar" proposal.

1) You are one of my three main suspects (one of the three that give me no specific reason to lower my suspicions), so I would have gone for a vote on you three.

2) I indeed assume that mafiosi wouldn't target each others. They probably can, they probably wouldn't - unless they really knew they were closely watched. If you are scum, and cspvg and/or p1na were scum too, I'm pretty sure they would have targetted someone else - either openly, or while claiming having targetted you.

Also, while we're at it. Given your role, you think you CAN be lynched, right ?

Yeah, it's night action immunity, nothing about lynches.

Given this, does this mean you know for certain when someone is targeted or are you just basing this on their reaction?

I've described what I know. I see flavor elements in front of targetted doors - it took me two nights to make sense of them. I do not know if I see the entirety of them, or if the results are different with different numbers. But I can confirm p1na's and cspvg's targetting of darko during night 3. Something that they didn't know when they selected their target. So at least that.