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I apologise for not being able to comment sooner. In any case, I'm going to keep this short, as I'm rather tired.

I used my night action on DarkoD13. Upon entering his room, I found it to be empty.

I hope that at least will clarify a few things. I must say, however, that I still have my reservations about a commuter with no limitations on his/ her actions whatsoever.

All right. So. I have absolutely no way to know if JMich is bluffing or not, so I can't make any arrest now. I can't progress much further alone. Let's put this on the table.

I am inspector Lawrence Birch. I didn't want to come, but my aunt Constance left me no choice : she harrassed my chief, and had my luggages packed for me - forgetting the talcum, that I suppose I brought myself. So, here I am.

I do not think that Constance would have brought me here if she was involved in criminal activities herself. This is my flavor reason to not suspect Red_Baron.

Anyway, the murder happened, so, during the two nights where Nmillar allowed me to, I've investigated the aera a bit. No, I am not a "cop", method-wise. I am labelled as "flavour omni-watcher". I gather clues on scenes of activities. After, of course, having provided a number between 1 to 5 (maybe it does determine what clue I get, so, just to ensure consistancy, I used the same number -four- during my both active nights).

So, here we are. I've mapped two nights of activities. Night 2 and night 3. Here are the results, with my interpretations :

NIGHT TWO :

1) In ROBBEASY's room, I have found traces of whisky and high-heeled shoes. I assume the shoes were the killer's and the whisky the victim's.

2) In front of FLUBBUCKET's room, I have found silken threads. I have found the same ones tonight in front of DARKO's room. To me, they represent cspvg.

3) In front of MY room (TELIKA's, for those who aren't following very attentively) I have smelled both lavender and camomille. I have also found a white powder identified as talcum. I will get back to that. Let's just say already that I have found the same in front of Darko's room tonight.

4) In front of CSPVG's room, I have found traces of black boot polish. I haven't found any black boot polish tonight, which lead me to assume it was Vitek's.

5) In front of DARKO's room, I have found blond hair. I have now reasons to believe that it was Nmillar's.

6) In front of VITEK's room, I have found a MONOGRAMMED HANDKERCHIEF. It had one blond hair in it. This handkerchief belongs to ther person I'll dramatically designate from now on as the Handerchief Killer. That person already knows why.

NIGHT THREE :

1) I have found the same handkerchief (minus the hair) in front of NMILLAR's door. Which means that WHOEVER VISITED VITEK YESTERDAY MURDERED NMILLAR TODAY. Which means that Vitek is innocent.

2) In front of VITEK's room, I have found blond hair. This is why I presumed that Vitek was blocked. Maybe I should have kept it a silent deduction, but at that point I still wanted confirmation of the mechanics. The talcum and the whisky had made me Wonder whether some of the clues could belong to the owner of the place instead of the visitor.

3) In front of DARKO's door, I have found silken threads, scents of camomille and lavender, AND also white powder. This latter point is important, because without it, I would be wondering whether Flubbucket had visited all the same places as P1na, or maybe followed him as a Hider. But it looks like P1na indeed carries traces of the clues he has gathered (despite of using different costumes ?). I wonder if this has been reset by his bath now.

So.

I can confirm that both P1na and cspvg have targetted Darko. This is a townie activity in my eyes, and especially rules out a complicity with Darko followed by false claims on night activity. This is why Darko is one of the remaining suspects in my eyes, along with JMich and Flubbucket. But this is not the only reason why I

vote DarkoD13

I also do it because, if he flips scum, then both P1na and cspvg will be positively confirmed town, along with Vitek.

AS FOR THE MONOGRAMMED HANDKERCHIEF, the second night's one, wich is the most interesting because it specifically means a power role, while any mafioso could have accomplished a murder. Far-fetched or not, I do interpret the single blond hair in it as a trace of having bumped into Pazzer's hair during the first night, which means that the Handkerchief Killer had attempted to murder me aswell. But this is not an important point anyway. Here is what is important :

It can have been left at Vitek's door by : JMich, Red_Baron, Rodzaju, Flubbucket or DarkoD13. All others (p1na, cspvg, vitek, and me) were already busy elsewhere.

- JMich is my prime suspect. Though he risked a very strong bluff, denying having visited Vitek without knowing what I knew.

- Red_Baron, is mostly townie to me because of flavor story. I doubt his character would have insisted on the presence of an investigative cop if a murderous conspiracy was taking place here... I'm not sure she could have been involved in an elaborate criminal plot inbetween.

- Rodzaju is a possibility, though providing Frances/Nmillar's alibi makes him townie in my eyes. That said, NMillar got only killed after we've established a co-dependancy between hios and Rod's affiliation, which may drag us to WIFOM territory.

- Flubbucket may be a lyncher, and the other lyncher didn't cumulate another "power". Also, I'd expect him to leave traces of lavender wherever he goes, instead of handkerchiefs, but maybe I assume too much from Joe's mechanics.

- Darko is untargettable. Would an untargettable role also have a night power ?

This means bad news for P1na. Whoever gets lynched today, P1na, the cops hater, just got deputized, de facto. He now has the task to find a monogrammed handkerchief in one of the chalet's room. The owner of that handkerchief is Nmillar's murderer.

Means also that he and I are the most likely targets for next night's murder. Sorry about that too.

There. What else. Anything else ? Yes. One gathered clue that I haven't mentionned.

Now, does anyone wish to share a missing piece of that puzzle ?

I use the quick reply button for quoting most of the time, so maybe that's why.

And you thought my role sounded powerful...
Do you know if the numbers concern your role specifically?

I was originally supposed to be omni-cop, but it got nerfed down a bit. :-(

Anyway, no. I imagined that we all have an array of "flavor hints" attached to us, and that we were all sniffing each others and getting one of them as a result (but how many of us do gather hints ?). And, as said, I selected twice the same number to make sure that I get the same elements, if characters have several ones. But... I really don't know how it works.

Yeah, I hate you, nmillar. :-p

Why no N1, Telika?

What I don't get from your post is how you identified that it was Jmich who killed nmillar and targeted me with some kind of ability night before.

So the number picking is tied to your role?

Because Nmillar. :-/

I didn't. He's the most likely. He may be bluffing. He may be not bluffing.

I don't know. Seems you all had to pick a number. I had to pick a number too. So it seems a symetrical thing. If these numbers are related to discovered "hints", it means I'm certainly not the only one gathering them.

Hmm Telika, if you are my relative (my pm makes no mention of this) then do you know anything more about me other than the name?
I guess my charther would need to bring someone with her, but honestly I thought it more likely she was brought along than the reverse, but as it makes no reference to either in PM I guess I can't know.

I do wonder if Joe would really include family members without making any sort of mention thereof, but I guess its possible. Only one's my role appear to have opinions about is those that should not be said, of which neither have come forth, only that nmillar shared one of them.

At any rate I guess this make Telika not to be the magician, who we have yet to find I guess -> Current new idea would be JMich if Telika is to be trusted. But why go for DarkoD13 if you believe JMich as your prime suspect, even if DarkoD13 might confirm others?

Somehow I feel we are being tricked, but I can't really put my finger on it, as things still makes sense and Joe being Joe makes judgment tougher.

Guess the high heel fits those who should not be said, but as for the other stuff I have no idea. I guess magicians could use handkerchiefs and have blonds assistants, but that just pure speculation.

Not really. Only what I can gather from your decisions - you must have some authority (you don't care much about my own desire to stay in York), you must have some wealth as you have "your men" at disposal to go pack my luggages, you must have your contacts in the police as you called to convince my chief to give me holidays, I suppose you kinda (annoyingly, for me) look over me as you "pressed me" into taking some holidays. Also you must be quite aged, as you are my aunt and I am 49 years old.

I have my own suspicions about who may be the magician, but I don't care much, as it is not an affiliation.

First of all, there are several mafiosi left. My prime suspects are JMich, DarkoD13 and Flubbucket. But the elements that hierarchise them are not very strong.

I see no specific obstacle to the JMich-as-handkerchief-killer theory. Except maybe his strong bluff. He may have evaluated that it was safer to deny. Or maybe he was honest, and maybe if I had "tried" another player I would have recieved the expected answer ("oh yes i visited vitek indeed, because i'm a super townie, uh, watcher or something").

Darko and Flub present the slight obstacle of already having a "role" (supposedly). Darko being untargettable (is it enough to "fill the slot", power-wise ?) and Flub having claimed Lyncher to confirm Pazzer (could it be a lie, could he, unlike Pazzer, be lyncher plus something ?).

You have your role, protecting you quite a bit in my eyes (I'm not sure it'd make much sense, story-wise, to have you as mafia), and Rodzaju has provided the NMillar alibi (would a mafioso do that). But see, these things could be fragile too. One could imagine a mafioso with an innocent-looking role such as yours, or a cunning mafioso offering an alibi to a townie role. It's not the most likely but still not impossible.

So, it's still a gradation of suspicion. JMich fits better my suspicions, because there is nothing going "against it". Then Darko/Flub, amongst the least unlikely to be mafia, but not the most likely to have a "visiting power". Then you and Rodzaju, who present less reasons to exclude a "visiting role" but also more reasons to presume town affiliation.

JMich is at the intersection of these two asymetrical categories (most visiting-role-compatible, most mafia-compatible), but I know that there is also a mafioso elsewhere, and I prioritise the "most mafia-compatible" side for now. Given the feeble difference in levels of suspicion within these categories, amogst my JMich-Darko-Flub category of suspects. I think Darko is the one who's flip has the most chance to help the next day's investigation.

This is how I see things. Plus, Darko pointed out that both our roles are fairly powerful. This, to me, may also be a hint of us not belonging to the same side.

Oh, right.
My bad.

Meh, I hope something more definite. This one doesn't warrant lynch on it's own. If he could be POE'ed, though...

So it's not your thing. Hm, I am not sure it affects your info, then.


Do you now the intitals on the handkerchief? We could just name claim to learn whose it is.

Yeah well that would have helped. But no. And that's a tad irritating. Like "also you see that the murderer has left his passport on the scene, and you read his name immediately, very surprised but extremely happy to learn his identity - which i'm not telling you by the way, have a nice day".

Be assured that there will be a revenge of that sort if I ever host a game with Joe again.

Wait a minute.

The murderer left his passport??

Didn't someone have a "something" which stated clearly the murderer was female??

I know there were accomplices...but if what you're saying now is true

We could just as well think the female murderer would be SPF, though. Unfortunate.